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**Braumabull** · 08-28-2012, 08:37 PM

Only his crew's Moving to Ducati,

But good to know Rossi's Whole crew would move with him to Yamaha. Reading Alex Briggs tweets I was thinking other wise

Another twist:

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**princesirohi** · 08-28-2012, 09:02 PM

seems like it is on demand by dovisiozo...

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**Dinesh.P** · 08-28-2012, 10:50 PM

Originally posted by princesirohi View Post

yamaha is down on power. i feel right now the most powerful bike and fastest bike on yhe grid is factory honda. yamaha is good in handling, but when it comes to power and speed in tight situations in final lap, honda may have an edge.

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Honda may have the acceleration and straight line speed.... But it is Yamaha which has good mid corner speed and corner entry.. The problem with yesterday's race was the problem in Yamaha's late braking Jorge was not able to brake as late as Dani which was the main strength of Yamaha and also when you see the uphill acceleration you should also see the rider mass Dani is the smallest rider and that final pass up the hill was sheer because of his size, acceleration of Honda and the most important Lorenzo made a mistake not blocking the line of Dani..... Last year Honda was really hard to beat but this season Yamaha and Honda are equally matched.... If Honda had the real power over Yamaha then Dani would have flew away once he made the pass on Lorenzo.....

**Braumabull** · 08-28-2012, 11:37 PM

Seemed like no one wanted to Run away. Each of them wanted the other person to score a zero.

Filmy aint it? Dunno how far its true

**princesirohi** · 08-28-2012, 11:37 PM

neither had the pace to fly away, neither dani nor lorenzo. because both were strong in certain parts of ckt. and a bit weak in other. yamaha has good speed in corners whereas honda has a slight edge in power. so i was saying. if only yamaha can increase their power little bit, it will be an almost perfect bike.

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**Dinesh.P** · 08-29-2012, 12:32 AM

Originally posted by princesirohi View Post

neither had the pace to fly away, neither dani nor lorenzo. because both were strong in certain parts of ckt. and a bit weak in other. yamaha has good speed in corners whereas honda has a slight edge in power. so i was saying. if only yamaha can increase their power little bit, it will be an almost perfect bike.

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Yes, the straight line speed is the big problem in Yamaha YZR-M1

**princesirohi** · 08-29-2012, 03:22 AM

Originally posted by Braumabull View Post

Seemed like no one wanted to Run away. Each of them wanted the other person to score a zero.

Filmy aint it? Dunno how far its true

yes, even the commentator mentioned it, during the race. but i seriously doubt it, it was said in a lighter vein.

i think lorenzo allowed dani to overtake, just to have a look at his rear tyre, to know how much is left in dani, but that proved to be a big mistake later on, as dani made it very difficult for lorenzo to overtake him.

**zerotosixty** · 08-29-2012, 11:13 AM

Can we get one thing cleared out?
2012 YamahaM1 is not down on power. 2011 M1 was down on power(800CC).

Cross plane crankshaft engine will never be an equal to Honda's V4.

Honda's advantage lies in the mid end torque which helps it accelerate out of the corners better than the M1.

That was the reason why Honda was so good in the sector 3 of Brno which includes a lot of elevation changes and a uphill section.

Jorge knew that and he tried to breakaway immediately on the final lap after he passed Dani. But Dani stuck to him like a fly and used the honda's advantage to his.

**princesirohi** · 08-29-2012, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by zerotosixty View Post

Cross plane crankshaft engine will never be an equal to Honda's V4.

Honda's advantage lies in the mid end torque which helps it accelerate out of the corners better than the M1.

That was the reason why Honda was so good in the sector 3 of Brno which includes a lot of elevation changes and a uphill section.

Jorge knew that and he tried to breakaway immediately on the final lap after he passed Dani. But Dani stuck to him like a fly and used the honda's advantage to his.

buddy, we also said same thing, we said power, you said torque.

**The Monk** · 08-29-2012, 08:11 PM

Silly season just won't die down -

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**Braumabull** · 09-02-2012, 11:59 AM

New frame for San Marino??

What about new engine? Still not ready?

**The Monk** · 09-03-2012, 09:13 AM

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**princesirohi** · 09-03-2012, 05:49 PM

poor Ben, it is real bad luck and bad fortune for him..

**R-series** · 09-06-2012, 02:22 AM

Aragon test times (Wednesday)
Lap times as supplied for their riders by Honda and Yamaha:

1. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Yamaha Factory (YZR-M1) 1m 48.351s
2. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 48.499s
3. Stefan Bradl GER LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 48.834s
4. Ben Spies USA Yamaha Factory (YZR-M1) 1m 48.946s
5. Jonathan Rea GBR Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 50.057s

Courtesy www.crash.net
Rae improved by about .6 seconds from Tuesday..I think he might be in front of or battling with Rossi if this is his pace during the next race.
Btw he's also confirmed to replace Stoner in the next race.

Jorge trying a new chassis and engine. Yamaha's this year are all stuggling with engine management. All four Yamaha's are running their 5th engine already with 6 races still to go.

**Dinesh.P** · 09-06-2012, 02:59 AM

Originally posted by R-series View Post

Aragon test times (Wednesday)
Lap times as supplied for their riders by Honda and Yamaha:
Yamaha's this year are all stuggling with engine management. All four Yamaha's are running their 5th engine already with 6 races still to go.

Yes yes it will produce a great impact in the championship with Dani with his 4th engine fresh....

Jorge lost his brand new engine in the crash with Bautista.....

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