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  • Re: MotoGP 2015 Season - Updates

    Originally posted by xionite View Post
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    Also... Lorenzo was photographed overtaking when there was yellow flag out.

    Can he be penalized one position and will Rossi be given second place?

    That overtake was before the yellow flag, mate. RD did have a look before dismissing it.

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    Those who missed the race, follow the link:


    MotoGP 25 OCTOBER Malaysia 2015 SEPANG FULL RACE - Video Dailymotion

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    • Re: MotoGP 2015 Season - Updates

      ^^ it has been made clear by RD and gavin emmett that the yellow flag was a mistake because nothing worthy of a yellow flag had happened yet but the marshall was a bit too quick to the draw after seeing iannone and pol run too wide..thats why there was no reminder to lorenzo to give away his position either, because it was a fluke yellow flag.

      and also, the overtake was done a moment before the yellow flag, so even if it had been a legit yellow flag (which it wasnt) the overtake was legal.

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      • Re: MotoGP 2015 Season - Updates

        Originally posted by Makky View Post
        That overtake was before the yellow flag, mate. RD did have a look before dismissing it.
        yes yes. i follow him on twitter.
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        • Re: MotoGP 2015 Season - Updates

          I've resisted jumping into the fray for some time trying to resist the knee jerk reaction, as I watched the race live. I knew that I was going to need lots of additional information to make an informed opinion. Finally lots of good slow mo and technical explanation are now available from all involved parties. I'm going to ignore idiotic and abusive responses - for now.A few key points here to discuss (as impartial as possible
          My problem is race direction is terribly unclear and appears to contradict itself.
          1 Marquez denies trying to slow Rossi down on purpose, however race direction does not agree and believes he did exactly that. This confirms Rossi's statements at the Thursday pre event press conference. However, this IS NOT against the rules. They concluded that BOTH riders are at fault, per Mike Webb. They penalise one, despite "both" being "at fault."
          2 Rossi performs a wide block pass (which is allowed) then waits for Marquez to get off the line, which he never does. Marquez initially pauses, stands the bike up - Rossi confirms this with a glance and waits - Marquez does not yield to the block - Rossi checks his own line briefly and then back to Marquez again - again Marquez does not yield to the block. Rossi finally abandons the block and continues into the turn - almost simultaneously Marquez creates contact by throttling into Rossi's bike making contact with the left leg. Briefly after, Marquez crashes. There are multiple slow motion video available to substantiate this fact.
          3 Race direction says there is no conclusive video evidence to support either riders claim of intention, pertaining to the "kick" despite the fact that substantial slow mo video is readily available across the internet showing Marquez creating contact and Rossi shaking off the contact; both events with eyes forward (not looking at Marquez.) This is significant because it shows intent/no intent. And it shows who actually created contact. It also shows Rossi shook of the contact by opening his hip, and slightly appearing to push. At this exact moment, Marquez front tire washes out and not at the initial moment of contact. Rossi could not have known he was pushing against Marquez's handlebar, because he was not looking at neither Marquez nor his handlebar. Race direction simply gets this wrong because they penalise the rider for irresponsible riding (creating contact and forcing another rider wide - the latter, which is NOT against the rules) and not for the "kick." They got the wrong rider for contact and block passing is actually not illegal. Whether or not pushing blindly against contact with an appendage (arm, elbow, leg) is illegal, needs to be clarified and if so, needs to be penalised.
          4 Marquez was not penalised despite creating the contact and BOTH riders deemed to be at fault.
          5 And finally, Lorenzo made an ILLEGAL pass under yellow and needs to be penalised.
          Conclusion:
          1 Unpopular as it may sound, either penalty points for Rossi should stand, with equal penalty for Marquez (3 points to the race licence and start from the back of the grid) or the whole event reevaluated under the actual factual evidence - Marquez creating contact- and interpretation to the rule pertaining to a blind push/kick reaction to contact - and a reissue of more/less points to each rider.
          2 Lorenzo penalised 1 grid position for passing under a yellow flag.
          Hoping to have a thoughtful discussion. Idiots will be ignored.


          Jason Lee, as shared by Shubhabrata Marmar (Overdrive magazine)

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          • Re: MotoGP 2015 Season - Updates

            Originally posted by HyperRetard View Post
            Jason Lee, as shared by Shubhabrata Marmar (Overdrive magazine)
            The person has jumped the gun and got most of his 'facts' wrong! Let alone the interpretations!




            I recently attended the JK Tyre race here in Delhi and saw the rubbish unhealthy atmosphere in the paddock!

            And now this is happening in MotoGP. Regardless who is right or wrong the incessant vitriol being spewed on social media is disgusting and a blight on the sport.

            The abuses are even more painful to see because this very Thursday, Rossi in the presser said that any of his fans who abuse fellow riders are not true supporters of his. Yet this is being completely ignored by most.

            And after seeing the bad blood in the 'tiny' JK Tyre event and this weekend in MotoGP, i now somewhat can understand why Stoner chose to retire and Go Fishing!
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            • Re: MotoGP 2015 Season - Updates

              Valencia:

              MM will follow JL for most of the race and then, make a pass at the end to take victory. This will be his primary plan.

              MM is egoistic enough to make life difficult for VR by not letting him anywhere near JL/take a race win/title but, not generous enough to gift a win to JL. He 'll ensure that JL sails through. And he 'll make it look so normal that nobody can lift a finger. Very cunning!
              It's a win-win situation for both MM and JL. Philip Island all over again.


              Meanwhile, VR will have to see off Miller, Barbera, Bautista...all known for ramming their bikes into someone else's and move up the field. Next to impossible to win the title.

              The irony is MM is just a younger version of VR. Knowing this and seeing him grow in the paddock, it was very foolish of VR to mark him at a presser.

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              • Re: MotoGP 2015 Season - Updates

                When is the next race guys??

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                • Re: MotoGP 2015 Season - Updates

                  Tensports India -November 7 qualification - 17:00 Nov 8 - 18:30

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                    • Re: MotoGP 2015 Season - Updates

                      Originally posted by The Monk View Post
                      And after seeing the bad blood in the 'tiny' JK Tyre event and this weekend in MotoGP, i now somewhat can understand why Stoner chose to retire and Go Fishing!
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                        Soup :: Ryder Notes: This Will Be Continued ... :: 10-25-2015
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                        • Re: MotoGP 2015 Season - Updates

                          Originally posted by saran93 View Post
                          [ATTACH]195045[/ATTACH] Moto2 2015 champ says about #sepangclash
                          He reflects our thoughts mate. I still feel that VR46 deserved a clean race at least in Malaysia.

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                          • Re: MotoGP 2015 Season - Updates

                            Originally posted by saran93 View Post
                            [ATTACH]195045[/ATTACH] Moto2 2015 champ says about #sepangclash
                            Hi Mate,

                            Is it possible to share high resolution pic? I cant read it on my PC.

                            Thank you.

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                              Originally posted by lalitp View Post
                              Hi Mate,

                              Is it possible to share high resolution pic? I cant read it on my PC.

                              Thank you.
                              It is just a screen shot from fb motogp group bro. PM me ur number, will WhatsApp you.

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                              • Re: MotoGP 2015 Season - Updates

                                I wonder what HRC thinks of Marc not concentrating solely on his race and therefore possibly not producing the best result HRC.
                                Last edited by saran93; 10-26-2015, 08:46 PM.

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