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If Lorenzo had not crashed, he would have been 9 seconds ahead of Rossi, going by the lap times of everybody on the slicks vis-a-vis the wet tyres. He would have taken 4th to Rossi's 6th or even a podium, since he was so close to Redding when he exited the pits. That would have been a points pull back of around 5, reducing the championship lead from 12 to 7.

That doesn't look like good strategy, but single minded focus on seeing what your main rival is doing. That goes for both the Yamaha men.

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bradley smith was "brave" because he chose to stay on slicks that long.
why? because it paid off? what if he had crashed?

rossi was "unwise" to stay on wet tyres for that long.
why? because he finished 6th?

VR wanted lorenzo to be behind him after the second bike change.
lorenzo said he was unlucky that he crashed... but was he?

it was interesting to watch marquez calculate the timing of his second bike change.
that's one smart 22 year old... and of course he had nothing to lose.
still, the guy rode like a champ.

Lorenzo will not win the championship this year. I am sure.

It's Rossi's to lose' and MM's to take back.

After yesterday's race... I still think MM can win the championship this year.

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I still believe some people are too critical of Rossi's late move to the pits (and even Lorenzo's).

Remember, Rossi and Lorenzo were fighting with each other (and rightfully so) and not so much with Marquez. I'm sure Rossi hadn't planned on not being on the podium, but I believe he was still OK that Marquez won this time around. But the important thing is that Rossi finished ahead of Lorenzo and this is all what mattered right there.

Also, like the podium finishers themselves say, they had nothing to lose so it was easier for them to make the decision of when to come.

Of course, Rossi didn't think that Lorenzo will fall, that is a bit of luck for the Italian. But then what Rossi did was he pushed Lorenzo to come with him for as long as he could and managed to bring the Spaniard out of his comfort zone. And we all know Lorenzo is more vulnerable when he's out of his comfort zone.

With a 23 points advantage, it is Lorenzo who has to work even harder against Rossi to cover back the points. He's capable of doing so, but then so is Rossi to keep the gap. With only few races remaining, tension will rise and play its own role.

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Bradley Smith wasn't brave because he chose to stay on slicks. He missed pitting on time (an error) and had lost a lot of time and positions. So he decided to stay out and gain if the weather improved. He was brave because he rode on slicks in the rain without crashing. But more than brave, he showed tremendous skill, talent and will to stick it out till the time where he finally got the upper hand.

Rossi, Lorenzo, Pedrosa and a host of others were unwise for staying out longer than required, because they didn't follow the instructions on their pit board from their team who were in a better position to judge the conditions. The post race press releases have most of the guys rueing the fact that they didn't follow the pit board instructions!

Lorenzo -

For most of these racers, English isn't their language. Do give them some leeway for the 'Lost in Translation' effect!

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but it's the pilot who knows exactly how the conditions are working out for him(self) and not the team. (except for accurate lap times.)

when rossi chose to not to pit for that long, i'm sure he knew it would give Marquez an upper hand.

and sure, Lorenzo could have caught up with him (maybe)... but Rossi probably knew that that meant that jLo would have to push hard on cold tires to do that.


sure. absolutely. for most of the riders on track this may be true...

but personally, i don't think that VR and JL were about to listen to their crew regarding when they should pit.

They are not the ones in contention for the championship.

Between VR and JL... they only one guilty of 'pilot error' was number 99.

Luck had nothing to do with it! He made a mistake!

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Lorenzo would have been ahead of him after the second pit stop as he would have got an additional lap on slick tyres, worth around 9 seconds (basis everyone else's lap times). Rossi would have had to catch up with Lorenzo, not the other way around! Lorenzo pitted a lap prior to Rossi.

And yes it was rider error for Jorge in the crash, no one else.

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yes yes yes. In theory, Lorenzo WOULD have been ahead of Rossi sure.

but Lorenzo did NOT know Rossi had come into the pits at this part of the race.

And when Lorenzo crashed at turn 15... Rossi was just about exiting pit-lane.

The mistake JL99 made was coz of some sort of urgency in his own head.

And VR's pitting after JL probably had something to do with that.

hope you get what i mean.

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^^ I get what you are saying, that Rossi pressurised Lorenzo into making a mistake. And that probably has an element of truth in it. Even if it is something we can never know for sure.

About Lorenzo having a sense of urgency. Data says otherwise. Lorenzo's outlap was slower than Marquez and Rossi's outlap. So he wasn't actually pushing hard. On the contrary from his statement, he didn't have the pace to keep the tyre temperature high enough and thus the rear cooled off on the left side after a series of right turns, which caused the rear to lose traction and throw him off. He is extremely lucky to not have broken anything in that rather spectacular crash

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Actually, Lorenzo saw Redding going past him on slicks and that actually did worry him a bit about losing the podium. And that is why he ignored (unintentionally) that his tyres were still not warm enough and tried to keep his pace high enough when he should have been taking it a bit easy.

What Rossi "seemingly" did was led Lorenzo to delay the pit stop since 99 was following 46's lead eventually playing a hand in making Lorenzo a bit restless...

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The commentators called a Marquez, Smith, Baz podium while Rossi was entering the pits.

And with Redding passing jLo seconds before... It's very likely Lorenzo did end up going into that corner faster than he should have.

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I really hope Rossi wins this years championship.
It will be a great parting achievement. Make it 10 times winner.

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Some amazing insights here but only the Doc knows what he prescribed to Lorenzo. Whatever it was, it did work

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As a 99 fan, this picture made me cry. Thank God he is okay and ready for next race.

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I laughed so hard.
46 Fan here
Gollum jokes

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I just realized (didn't think of it earlier). Smith wasn't just riding with slicks in the wettest of conditions, but he was riding with Carbon brakes. Those brakes are not supposed to work in the wet! Not to mention that the bike had a dry setup, that is a much stiffer suspension setup as compared to the wet bike. The more i think about it, the more amazing Bradley's ride appears.