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  • #661
    Re: MotoGP 2015 Season - Updates

    WTF! With 12 laps to go, Ped taking 0.5s off Rossi each lap and Lor 3s ahead, I switched it off. And this happened!! Faaaaccckk!
    Last edited by Makky; 10-11-2015, 01:03 PM.

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    • #662
      Re: MotoGP 2015 Season - Updates

      Really delighted to see pedrosa on the top step. It was a massive relief to see rossi finishing ahead of lorenzo.
      There is no destination, I just want to keep riding.

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      • #663
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        I like this season.

        You don't have to win all the races to be a champion. Consistent podium finishes even if it's third pays off eventually.
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        • #664
          Re: MotoGP 2015 Season - Updates

          Front tire conditions of Rossi and Dani were alike then why Dani did not see a massive drop in lap times? Can someone explain pls?
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          • #665
            Re: MotoGP 2015 Season - Updates

            Dear Dani, Thankyou very much for dragging Valentino with u past Lorenzo.

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            • #666
              Re: MotoGP 2015 Season - Updates

              Originally posted by nirvaana View Post
              Front tire conditions of Rossi and Dani were alike then why Dani did not see a massive drop in lap times? Can someone explain pls?
              As far as I know, it mainly bcoz of:
              1. Dani maintained his tyres very well in the beginning. While Lorenzo sped off in the initial laps and heated his tyres bcoz of drying track. He didn't have any grip at all towards the end. According to experts, Jorge should've slowed down instead of speeding off. It's a very basic concept for a drying track. What Jorge said in defence was that, "you never know when the weather might change. Now it's drying. Next moment it might rain. So u hv to be at ur 100% always."

              2. Also, the main reason is that Yamaha's rely a lot on front tyre and engine braking for stopping power which degrades the front tyre, while Dani was very clever in using his rear brakes more for stopping the bike which preserves the front tyres. Also, don't forget this race was won bcoz of the Front tyres.

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              • #667
                Re: MotoGP 2015 Season - Updates

                Originally posted by nirvaana View Post
                Front tire conditions of Rossi and Dani were alike then why Dani did not see a massive drop in lap times? Can someone explain pls?
                Because they weren't; at the end they all looked equally destroyed, but Lorenzo's and Rossi's had reached that point several laps earlier than Pedrosa's, and that's what made the difference during the last laps of the race. Pedrosa had to make only the last lap on finished tires. What jack_daniels says is correct regardng why Lorenzo finished his tires first, Rossi second and Pedrosa third; I may add that Lorenzo only uses his front brakes, never the rear, and that didn't help him much either.
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                • #668
                  Re: MotoGP 2015 Season - Updates

                  Originally posted by jack_daniels View Post
                  As far as I know, it mainly bcoz of:
                  1. Dani maintained his tyres very well in the beginning. While Lorenzo sped off in the initial laps and heated his tyres bcoz of drying track. He didn't have any grip at all towards the end. According to experts, Jorge should've slowed down instead of speeding off. It's a very basic concept for a drying track. What Jorge said in defence was that, "you never know when the weather might change. Now it's drying. Next moment it might rain. So u hv to be at ur 100% always."

                  2. Also, the main reason is that Yamaha's rely a lot on front tyre and engine braking for stopping power which degrades the front tyre, while Dani was very clever in using his rear brakes more for stopping the bike which preserves the front tyres. Also, don't forget this race was won bcoz of the Front tyres.
                  Originally posted by J4rn0 View Post
                  Because they weren't; at the end they all looked equally destroyed, but Lorenzo's and Rossi's had reached that point several laps earlier than Pedrosa's, and that's what made the difference during the last laps of the race. Pedrosa had to make only the last lap on finished tires. What jack_daniels says is correct regardng why Lorenzo finished his tires first, Rossi second and Pedrosa third; I may add that Lorenzo only uses his front brakes, never the rear, and that didn't help him much either.

                  Obviously Agree to above..

                  Just to add one small pointer, Jorge's bike had the winglets while the others didint

                  So more down force on the frontwet tyres, thereby degrading them quicker on a drying track!
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                  • #669
                    Re: MotoGP 2015 Season - Updates

                    Originally posted by Shibadip View Post
                    Obviously Agree to above..

                    Just to add one small pointer, Jorge's bike had the winglets while the others didint

                    So more down force on the frontwet tyres, thereby degrading them quicker on a drying track!

                    Adding to that, Dani didnt push in the early stages. Also when the track started to dry, Dani took the wet line keeping the tyres cool. Rossi did the same and was able to preserve it better than Lorenzo. Lorenzo however stuck to the dry line which shredded his rubber.

                    Dani also weighs less and is quite small compared to Rossi and Lorenzo, that doesn't put as much pressure on the tyres as in the case of taller riders.

                    Whatever, be the case it is proved once again Rossi was the intelligent rider. He maintained 3.5 secs gap and was able to capitalise on that when circumstances changed. Lorenzo may be faster however, I am sure he can learn something from Valentino who may be old, but definitely not obsolete.

                    Cant wait for the Dr to claim his 10th title. That too in an era of aliens like MM, JL, DP and so on.
                    Last edited by chinmayakar; 10-13-2015, 05:14 PM.

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                    • #670
                      Re: MotoGP 2015 Season - Updates

                      Originally posted by Shibadip View Post
                      Obviously Agree to above..

                      Just to add one small pointer, Jorge's bike had the winglets while the others didint

                      So more down force on the frontwet tyres, thereby degrading them quicker on a drying track!
                      Difficult to tell for sure, -- but considering how much Lorenzo pushed in the first half of the race, there is no need to look for additional causes to explain his higher tire wear. My 5 cents is, that the winglets are designed to keep the bike's nose down during acceleration: but in the braking phase (which is where the front wears out) the bike is brutally pushed down all the way, almost instantly, so the winglets are probably irrelevant then.
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                      • #671
                        Re: MotoGP 2015 Season - Updates

                        Meanwhile ducati guys added new winglets to their GP15
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                          • #673
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                            Jack Miller to Marc VDS for 2016 confirmed.

                            Three Australians will be racing at Philip Island in MotoGP, Miller, Ant West filling in for Karel and Cudlin filling in for de Angelis.
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                            • #674
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                              Motorcycle Braking Stability, Part I - TECH ESSAY | Cycle World: As grip and brake torque increase, slipper clutches have become increasingly important.


                              Motorcycle Braking Stability, Part II - TECH ESSAY | Cycle World: It’s all about equalizing engine braking in every gear.

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                              • #675
                                Re: MotoGP 2015 Season - Updates

                                Originally posted by Makky View Post
                                Motorcycle Braking Stability, Part I - TECH ESSAY | Cycle World: As grip and brake torque increase, slipper clutches have become increasingly important.


                                Motorcycle Braking Stability, Part II - TECH ESSAY | Cycle World: It’s all about equalizing engine braking in every gear.
                                That explains to a considerable extent why the Honda's of Hayden, Laverty and Miller suffered so greatly in comparison to the satellite Honda's of Redding and Crutchlow. As Hayden said, these bikes were designed to run with seamless gearboxes and without that they were greatly neutered.
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