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  • Originally posted by R-series View Post
    Looks like Tony might have a certain seat for 2010 and with the grid numbers increasing, we might have better "racing" next season

    Dorna to rescue MotoGP grid issue - Motorcycle racing news: Moto GP - Visordown
    Good for Toni and aptly rewarded for his championship win this year.
    Nice to know Hiroshi still has a chance for next year.
    Thanks for sharing

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    • Apologies for consecutive posts.
      Don't know if anybody has shared this link in the past.
      Good read about Big Bang Engines and Screamers

      Guest Column - Why Big Bang Engines Work

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      • Originally posted by soulstation View Post
        i know suren will come down on me with my words.
        Why would nt I !

        Come on guys ! YOu all know what the previous all italian combo did on the Ducati - ( Marco /Ducati ) before Nicky stepped in. They were eating dash ! just trying to help stoner and dumped marco off his 2 year contract. The one reason why Nicky was picked was even he had a similar background into racing ala Stoner !Both off them had dirt track backgrounds and Ducati thought he would work on it just to realise Stoner alone can ride it ! If evolution is what is required and riders should evolve with the changes.. thats what is happening now ! Look at the results of Nicky this season ! That is evolution and adaptation of a rider ! While the other Ducati riders who were evolving with him are just running at 14 15 th all the time ( Espargaro and highly anticipated Kallio who even got change to ride a factory Ducati ) !

        Look at this way Nicky becomes champ ! 990 cc ! Honda forces MMA to accept 800 cc and they build a bike for Dani ! Even there were press releases saying the bike is built for Dani ! He does nt become champ and Nicky becomes looking stupid on the Honda.. He then moves to Ducati when Casey has planted his seat there and all developments were focused on him ! Now some bits are done to make the bike more easier to ride and he s back to his best of being a top 4 - 5 rider when the bike works fine !

        If he does nt deserve a seat at Ducati ! Then Dani does nt deserve a seat at Honda for just trying trying tryin and not even coming close the championship !

        Btw great race by Nicky .. Rossi you ll be joining a sleeping Jorge soon very soon !
        BAYLISSTIC !!!!

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        • nice....source:visordown.com

          Phillip Island MotoGP: My shot of the weekend - Editor's Blog - Visordown

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          • The Texas Terror interview !

            Ben Spies MotoGP Interview - MotoGP Interview - Motorcycle USA

            This guy is a mix of Nicky and Colin when he speaks !

            " He’s actually a good guy and I do like him a lot. Like I said, we get along fine right now… you never what’s going to happen He’s actually a good guy and I do like him a lot. Like I said, we get along fine right now… you never what’s going to happen"
            BAYLISSTIC !!!!

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            • Originally posted by suren View Post
              Why would nt I !

              Come on guys................i you ll be joining a sleeping Jorge soon very soon !
              still dont convince me. as a racer we like him, but it takes more than just a heart to finish in the top 3 in motogp. but i am just a fan who gets a cold bottle of beer and trolls around the internet.

              so trying to put piece of puzzle over here.

              Alvaro B. one of my pick to do well, better than AD in Honda camp to do a fantastic job at Ducati. he is signed till 2011. Marco S. signed till 2011. AD & DP most probably were to remain in the Honda wings for obvious reasons ofcourse. (put dani and AD on a yamaha and watch them being tossed like salad all over track side.) lets face it the honda boys never proved what they really are. though Dani did equal Nicky's 2006 record of "2" wins but did not win the championship.

              now. with barely any options left these might be the facts Ducati considered.

              a) Nicky is cheaper than the whole bunch of them.
              b) Nicky will take a Pay Cut (maybe not but a 15% hike is something ducati can live it considering the bikes that sell in the US)
              C) Nicky will make a Ducati Dream Team in 2012 (1k engine rule)
              d) Nicky makes us money in the US. (2 gps in the states)

              hence nicky can stick in the factory season for 2011 and do whatever he feels like cause Nick's real season for Ducati will be 2012.

              besides what has he done for ducati. there is no point comapring him with others that did not do well. what happened to troy balysis when he smoked the entire field in 2006 the year nicky won at Velencia. Caprex did manage some sucess. but lets face it. stoner is a stronger guy. i dont like stoner nor dani but as a spectator and a Motoracing fan i gotta say hayden did not deserve that contract. and nor did Ducati.

              and the first guy you have to beat in Motor Racing is your team mate. electronics or not.

              there is a huge difference between factory and customer team in Motogp. its not SBK. Caprex was the guy who gave Ducati their first win. Stoner gave them Championship. how long did stoner take to win his first race and championship. and stoner did not win "2" races.

              sorry dude. hard to convince nicky to me. though i still like him cause of his heart of never giving up, but no cigar for finishing out of the top 3 every time on a factory bike (yeah he got a 3rd already this time, but dont matter. spices got that twice.)

              Last edited by soulstation; 10-20-2010, 06:30 PM.

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              • Originally posted by soulstation View Post

                a) Nicky is cheaper than the whole bunch of them.
                b) Nicky will take a Pay Cut (maybe not but a 15% hike is something ducati can live it considering the bikes that sell in the US)
                C) Nicky will make a Ducati Dream Team in 2012 (1k engine rule)
                d) Nicky makes us money in the US. (2 gps in the states)

                hence nicky can stick in the factory season for 2011 and do whatever he feels like cause Nick's real season for Ducati will be 2012.

                I agree with whatever you had quoted but some of your points are nt valid . Troy smoked the field on a 990 bike not the 800 ! Everyone was so afraid to even accept a ride next to Stoner ! When a bike is built or in other words If a bike suits one rider's style and if he is winning why would they change it. Now they try to make the bike more rider friendly Nicky and few other catch up but where is Casey ?

                You might remember ! The casey and ducati ssupension issues earlier this season , They switched back to 2009 to ride better ! So even he is not adapting to the change right ? Then how can you expect nicky to go fast on Casey s bike ?

                On the Honda Nicky was king ! it had been 3 years since Rossi left the team , The bike was developed with Nicky as the key rider and you saw his consistency and how he was able to win a championship with just 2 wins.! What were the other Honda s doing? Atleast people were able to ride it !
                Can any of those Doviziosos or Pedrosas do that ? Its a shame Honda could nt win a single championship in the 800 cc class so far !

                And Nicky beat the most successful racer of all time to become a world champion !

                And if the 800 s had to continue ! I bet Ducati would have tested with these young guns you mentioned just to fail once again !
                BAYLISSTIC !!!!

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                • Originally posted by suren View Post
                  I agree with whatever you had quoted but some of your points are nt valid . Troy smoked the field on a 990 bike not the 800 !
                  That was to counter the point mentioned earlier with regards none other than stoner being able to ride it. pre or post 800s

                  Everyone was so afraid to even accept a ride next to Stoner ! When a bike is built or in other words If a bike suits one rider's style and if he is winning why would they change it. Now they try to make the bike more rider friendly Nicky and few other catch up but where is Casey ?
                  still winning and whining and more wins than Hayden's podium.

                  You might remember ! The casey and ducati ssupension issues earlier this season , They switched back to 2009 to ride better ! So even he is not adapting to the change right ? Then how can you expect nicky to go fast on Casey s bike ?
                  how do explain jorge's situation when he joined Yamaha? Caprex never got the suzuki up to speed as he was with Ducati. (well ducati had a good base to begin with)

                  On the Honda Nicky was king ! it had been 3 years since Rossi left the team , The bike was developed with Nicky as the key rider and you saw his consistency and how he was able to win a championship with just 2 wins.!
                  2004 2005 - Biaggi & Sete ruled Honda, Nicky got Senior status from Honda in 2006. the development was already there. Honda owned the 990 era. everything except Rossi. even Melandri finished before Hayden in the 2005 championship on a Honda. Hayden started getting better late in 05. not taking away anything from his first win in 05 in the US. but it that was just a flash in the pan in 2005.

                  What were the other Honda s doing?
                  winning and finishing second to Rossi.

                  hayden won by how many points???? and how many race wins rossi had?? oh wait we are talking about being consistent. well thats what is happening with him right. everything right but can't challenge at the front.

                  Atleast people were able to ride it !
                  Can any of those Doviziosos or Pedrosas do that ? Its a shame Honda could nt win a single championship in the 800 cc class so far !
                  pedrosa has won a lot more races than hayden has. he managed the same wins on that 990 but he lacked haydens consistency. but thats history now. if hayden did win a race or be the podiums for more than 5 rounds in a season then he deserves that ride. but im no ducati manager.

                  And Nicky beat the most successful racer of all time to become a world champion !
                  so nicky deserved that championship just as much as jorge did

                  And if the 800 s had to continue ! I bet Ducati would have tested with these young guns you mentioned just to fail once again !
                  thats what i thought.

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                  • Originally posted by suren View Post
                    Ben Spies MotoGP Interview - MotoGP Interview - Motorcycle USA

                    This guy is a mix of Nicky and Colin when he speaks !

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                    Don't want to break the discussion of Nicky but from Suren's link, Mined another very informative link

                    MotoGP: The Zenith of Motorcycle Racing - MotoGP 2010 News - Motorcycle USA

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                    • Originally posted by soulstation View Post


                      how do explain jorge's situation when he joined Yamaha? Caprex never got the suzuki up to speed as he was with Ducati. (well ducati had a good base to begin with)



                      2004 2005 - Biaggi & Sete ruled Honda, Nicky got Senior status from Honda in 2006. the development was already there. Honda owned the 990 era. everything except Rossi. even Melandri finished before Hayden in the 2005 championship on a Honda. Hayden started getting better late in 05. not taking away anything from his first win in 05 in the US. but it that was just a flash in the pan in 2005.



                      winning and finishing second to Rossi.

                      hayden won by how many points???? and how many race wins rossi had?? oh wait we are talking about being consistent. well thats what is happening with him right. everything right but can't challenge at the front.



                      pedrosa has won a lot more races than hayden has. he managed the same wins on that 990 but he lacked haydens consistency. but thats history now. if hayden did win a race or be the podiums for more than 5 rounds in a season then he deserves that ride. but im no ducati manager.



                      so nicky deserved that championship just as much as jorge did



                      thats what i thought.
                      EXACTLY ! Honda was capable of winning the Championship !

                      Well all the answers are here itself ! The HONDA was developed and capable of winning races ! Sete Marco etc ! But who won the championship ? Nicky won !

                      Thats the same with Jorge ! What has he proved ? Be fast and win on a developed bike ! It has taken him three years ! The same which Hayden took but with a lot of wins and ultimate consistency ( take off Rossi )!

                      I would agree to your "requirement" to be in a factory team if he was in a huge factory team like Honda or Yamaha which have bikes rideable in a 8 - 10 races for any rookie ! But definitely not with the Ducati

                      Toseland was on the front row in his rookie season on a yamaha ! Could have any kind of champion or rider other than Stoner done that on the 800 ducati ?

                      And I know you follow all the news happening abt Motogp ! Then you must remember this !

                      Bautista had 2 options ! Ride a Suzuki ! Ride a ducati with his 250 cc employer Aspar ! Where did he go ? I think the fellows whom you have confidence on did nt have it on themselves !

                      Ducati ruined Marco M ! Destroyed Kallio ! Only the toughest are worthy to survive ! and Nicky is !
                      Last edited by suren; 10-21-2010, 12:27 AM.
                      BAYLISSTIC !!!!

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                      • Burgess talks about Rossi-Ducati move...Interesting...
                        SCOOP: Jeremy Burgess talks about his move to Ducati with Rossi - Sport Rider Magazine

                        an excerpt....
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                        Borderline cocky I would say.....,

                        Regarding Nicky....

                        I would say that he is good ....rather excellent...but not in the league of Rossi/stoner/Jlo....at least not on 800s anyway,

                        much impressed by his Ducati improvement....he has got a great attitude...never gives up and never whines.....few others have been able to ride that ducati.....

                        but am not much impressed by the 2006 title....the RCV was so good...besides a no. of things worked out in his favour......elias winning second last race by 0.005, rossi crashing out in final race.....etc etc....... not to take anything away from him though....this all is a part of the championship and he won it fair and square.....but that doesn't put him at par with motogp greats.....

                        @sumit- great link..particularly the scott jones one...

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                        • Originally posted by kingkong View Post
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                          • Very personal opinion--
                            Nickey's title IMHO is more deserving than that of Casey.

                            Not arguing who is a better rider though
                            Last edited by sheelpriye; 10-21-2010, 02:03 AM.

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                            • Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post
                              Very personal opinion--
                              Correctly said....,

                              Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post
                              Nickey's title IMHO is more deserving than that of Casey.
                              Not arguing who is a better rider though
                              I did add that he (nicky) won it fair and square.....its just that I didn't liked the fact that he won it by winning 2 races only....we see the motogp champions as heroes/gods...the idea of winning it by consistently having podiums doesn't appeals much....to me at least..., anyway I started to like nicky after the Ducati work....

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                              • May I take the pleasure to poke Casey a bit

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