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  • ravi@17bhp
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    OMG! Whats happening? Measuring performance based on videos? Lol!

    Chill guys, we can always compare when the bikes are really out and test them. For now, we will leave this thread for the CBR150R news.

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  • Satellite.kid
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    @Enthusiastic & ABikerAtHeart: Please let's take this discussion somewhere else. This is sort of a coffee/toffee argument I guess!

    Regarding the motorcycle this thread is actually meant for, CBR150r, is it available for display in any major city yet?

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  • Enthusiastic
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    Originally posted by ABikerAtHeart View Post
    Lmfao..

    Please dont go about "unearthing" things.

    In all your posts your only contradicting yourself..
    1st its "p200 grunts like cbr250", something that was "visible" to u when u "saw the vids of p200 and cbr150. Then u tell me the grunt cant be seen.

    Dude why are you so confused in life?

    Relax man. Rest that fanboyism for a while and think with some rationality.
    No man don't worry about me Im relaxed ans yes Im not confused. Thats why I gave logical answers and also points which have more proof-aspects than yours. I would say you always neglect some Brand and don't value "VFM" aspect. You might want to overspend your money but people in India would always value VFM no matter how hard you shout to ignore it.
    It were you confused rather who talked about sales of Duke 200 which was not in point of discussion. Also after the launch of P200NS , Dukes sales will go down since they come with a common base engine and P200NS looks striking compared to D200 as I feel.
    If you read my signature it will help you and also make you understand who is confused. you or others.. gn

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  • ABikerAtHeart
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    Originally posted by Enthusiastic View Post
    I have given my explanations in bold.
    Lmfao..

    Please dont go about "unearthing" things.

    In all your posts your only contradicting yourself..
    1st its "p200 grunts like cbr250", something that was "visible" to u when u "saw the vids of p200 and cbr150. Then u tell me the grunt cant be seen.

    Dude why are you so confused in life?

    Relax man. Rest that fanboyism for a while and think with some rationality.

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  • aargee
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    Originally posted by Nithesh View Post
    This is like the Norm...its been reviewed.
    In the 90's era there was no choice, in the 00's when it expanded a little people went with what was mass selling, now its the era of comparing 2 & whichever outweighs the other (don't know in what way) that becomes standard or what

    And nobody actually wants to see what they want & everyone consistently fails to see the uniqueness in every product.

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  • Enthusiastic
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    Originally posted by ABikerAtHeart View Post
    Originally Posted by Enthusiastic

    Dude dont assume things. If its based out of forums then 90% of enthusiasts have already bought Duke.
    What do you mean by this still is to be unearthed.


    Leave it for the time being. It will be visible later.
    Its already visible rocketing on the road. Its called the Duke200.
    So when did I say Duke is not rocketing the road?

    How on earth does one see grunt now??
    You can't see it.. You need to hear it. Watch the last part of XBhp video. And if you can't agree then Sorry is all I can say.

    Ever came across the term 2-strokers?
    yes came across many of them and never liked their exhaust note.

    Dont think auto-experts have such wonderful eyes,you know.
    So I would rather believe an auto-expert rather than a common blogger like you or me.

    Source?
    Source is Autocar India.

    Also the claim of P200NS seems to be valid if you see the video done by Overdrive and count the time on your stopwatch.

    Yeah, this is exactly what I should do; watch the video I dont know the rate of frame-capture and sit with a stopwatch.
    Brilliant!

    Its nothing about the rate of frame of capture. nobody can prove you before hand until the bike is released. Till now thats the only best way we can assume. The video is not broken and its time you have to count not the frame s per second
    I have given my explanations in bold.

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  • ABikerAtHeart
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    Originally posted by Enthusiastic View Post
    My data is from Autocar India.
    *slaps the forehead*

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  • Nithesh
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    Originally posted by aargee View Post

    OTOH - Why's everyone so much cribbing on comparing two bikes? We've gone too much three much four much OT that, we're doing a masala mix all way from R15, CBR 150R, D200, P200NS & now C250R; remember someone even talking about N250R. This thread is all about the launch news & it has now moved towards comparison. What's more funny? C150R is not even delivered!!! Pls...can we stop this OT? TIA
    This is like the Norm these days. Everybody likes to weigh in the options and point out whats right and whats wrong with the products being offered in and around the price tag of the vehicle before its been reviewed.

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  • Enthusiastic
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    Originally posted by Nithesh View Post
    Say whaat?
    I thought the KTM was on par with the 250R in terms of grunt and acceleration.

    Infact i came across a review (a magazine or tv cant remember) where they specifically mention that the 200NS is a tad slower than the older 220

    okay i didnt see this following reply of urs



    So everything you estimate is based on videos and blogs?
    Also, one cannot see the grunt. one can only feel the grunt.
    And P200 NS does not sound anywhere close to KTM 200. Unless one person hasnt cleaned his ears in months!
    My data is from Autocar India. I can't give link but according to that 0-60 acceleration of CBR250R = 3.6 secs, Duke 200 = 3.3 secs, P200NS claims to be 3.61 secs

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  • aargee
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    Originally posted by Nithesh View Post
    where they specifically mention that the 200NS is a tad slower than the older 220
    C'mon Nithesh, it must be their opinion

    Sayank - Pls take the above comment just to Lol, pls don't get hurted as it's not intended for it.

    OTOH - Why's everyone so much cribbing on comparing two bikes? We've gone too much three much four much OT that, we're doing a masala mix all way from R15, D200, P200NS & now C250R; remember someone even talking about N250R. This thread is all about the launch news & it has now moved towards comparison. What's more funny? C150R is not even delivered!!! Pls...can we stop this OT? TIA
    Last edited by aargee; 03-22-2012, 01:30 AM.

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  • ABikerAtHeart
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    Originally posted by Enthusiastic View Post
    I have visited many forums and blogs so I estimate it.
    Dude dont assume things. If its based out of forums then 90% of enthusiasts have already bought Duke.

    Leave it for the time being. It will be visible later.
    Its already visible rocketing on the road. Its called the Duke200.

    The Grunt is visible from the vid.
    How on earth does one see grunt now??

    I have seen CBR 150 & P200NS vids.
    Dont confuse yourself. Read the 2nd highlighted line in my previous post.

    P200NS shares bottom end with D200 and sounds very similar. I had the opportunity to hear the sound of Duke 200 in person and I have never heard such good sounding bike in my life to be honest (<=250cc).
    Ever came across the term 2-strokers?

    I hope most of
    the auto-experts would agree on the point of grunt.
    Dont think auto-experts have such wonderful eyes,you know.

    Also if you see the acceleration figures of P200NS and CBR250R are quite almost equal.
    Source?

    Also the claim of P200NS seems to be valid if you see the video done by Overdrive and count the time on your stopwatch.

    Yeah, this is exactly what I should do; watch the video I dont know the rate of frame-capture and sit with a stopwatch.
    Brilliant!
    Take over the Overdrive administration. It needs "Enthusiasts" like you.
    All in bold.

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  • Nithesh
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    Originally posted by Enthusiastic View Post

    Apart from that P200NS has the grunt and acceleration which equals CBR 250 and cannot be matched by comparatively tiny 150cc engines.
    Say whaat?
    I thought the KTM was on par with the 250R in terms of grunt and acceleration.

    Infact i came across a review (a magazine or tv cant remember) where they specifically mention that the 200NS is a tad slower than the older 220

    okay i didnt see this following reply of urs

    Originally posted by Enthusiastic View Post
    I have visited many forums and blogs so I estimate it. Leave it for the time being. It will be visible later.

    The Grunt is visible from the vid. I have seen CBR 150 & P200NS vids. P200NS shares bottom end with D200 and sounds very similar. I had the opportunity to hear the sound of Duke 200 in person and I have never heard such good sounding bike in my life to be honest (<=250cc). I hope most of the auto-experts would agree on the point of grunt.
    Also if you see the acceleration figures of P200NS and CBR250R are quite almost equal. Its obvious that after 100 CBR would have much higher acceleration. Also the claim of P200NS seems to be valid if you see the video done by Overdrive and count the time on your stopwatch.
    So everything you estimate is based on videos and blogs?
    Also, one cannot see the grunt. one can only feel the grunt.
    And P200 NS does not sound anywhere close to KTM 200. Unless one person hasnt cleaned his ears in months!
    Last edited by Nithesh; 03-22-2012, 01:23 AM.

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  • Enthusiastic
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    Originally posted by ABikerAtHeart View Post
    Justify you claims in bold.
    I have visited many forums and blogs so I estimate it. Leave it for the time being. It will be visible later.

    The Grunt is visible from the vid. I have seen CBR 150 & P200NS vids. P200NS shares bottom end with D200 and sounds very similar. I had the opportunity to hear the sound of Duke 200 in person and I have never heard such good sounding bike in my life to be honest (<=250cc). I hope most of the auto-experts would agree on the point of grunt.
    Also if you see the acceleration figures of P200NS and CBR250R are quite almost equal. Its obvious that after 100 CBR would have much higher acceleration. Also the claim of P200NS seems to be valid if you see the video done by Overdrive and count the time on your stopwatch.
    Last edited by Enthusiastic; 03-22-2012, 12:51 AM.

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  • ABikerAtHeart
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    Originally posted by Enthusiastic View Post
    -1, CBR with its super overpricing is a product not going to be success in the market. P200 is already success with huge number of people already booked and showing interest in it.


    +1, P200 NS = UTTER VFM. You can invest then in buying better riding gear and also in the price difference you can fill in petrol. Apart from that P200NS has the grunt and acceleration which equals CBR 250 and cannot be matched by comparatively tiny 150cc engines.
    Justify you claims in bold.

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  • ABikerAtHeart
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    Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
    i will have test ride.but at that price point i would rather choose duke for pure hooliganism.

    p200ns will save be loads of money which i can invest on buying better riding gear.
    P200ns over cbr sounds more reasonable. Given its the Ninja250 at the end of the day.
    But frankly, I'm pretty sure you wont buy the Ninja250. You watch!

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