Honda CBR150 R launched soon...

[IN]BeTrayedxD replied

03-17-2012, 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by Greymatter View Post

Heard that RHS Switch Gear of CBR150R is same as Stunner so no engine kill switch? Also, does it makes sense for R15 V1.0 owners to buy CBR150R?

1. Yup , Your Right ... There is No Engine Kill Switch ..

2. 90 % - N0 , 10 % - Yes ..

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Nithesh replied

03-17-2012, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by [IN]BeTrayedxD View Post

1. NO one is going to attain TOP END every time .Unless you are a pure High way Rider , i guess we can attain 135 km/hr . But , we can't Rip at these speeds constantly as the Fuel efficiency will be reduced and hence we are just Harming the Engine .

Actually these bikes are meant to be stressed to the limits. The R15/150R/250R's/Duke etc have more potential than you think they would. Its only that the manufacturers want to ensure that the product life is maximum and thus these top speed limiters come into play.
Second of all ripping on the highways in topgear doesnt kill ur F.E. It is ur braking/frequent gear shifts/sudden acc which kill ur F.E
Isnt that why bikes give more F.E on the highway than in the city?
My 4k odo on the 250R is 90% highway and 10% city and my F.E. is anywhere between 30-36kmpl and this while averaging at a 110-120kmph all the time.

Originally posted by [IN]BeTrayedxD View Post

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5. I 100 % Guarantee that we can't get 56 KM/Liter even if we Ride in 4 K RPM or Below My Personal point of view - I guess ,we can get 40 KM/liter while we do smooth riding inside City , 35 Km/liter while we Rip inside cities , 45 Km/liter if we ride on highways ( But if you rip above 115 km/hr above you will be getting only 35 - 40 Km/liter ) Comments are appreciated .

While i agree these claims are not to be believed all the time, but if Siddharth Patankar says its HMSI's claims , considering how HMSI didnt overshoot 250R's F.E claims i am somehow going to believe the 150R offers at 50kmpl at any given condition. Again gotta wait for HMSI's brochures for F.E claims. I am not gonna trust S.P all the time

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Greymatter replied

03-17-2012, 02:24 PM
Heard that RHS Switch Gear of CBR150R is same as Stunner so no engine kill switch? Also, does it makes sense for R15 V1.0 owners to buy CBR150R?
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[IN]BeTrayedxD replied

03-17-2012, 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by Nithesh View Post

Better Top end?
Pillion friendly?
Exclusivity?(considering R15s are selling like hotcake here and everywhere and i dont see 150R catching up in terms of sales)
Better Ergonomics and comfortable upright seating posture for people of all sizes?

1. NO one is going to attain TOP END every time .Unless you are a pure High way Rider , i guess we can attain 135 km/hr . But , we can't Rip at these speeds constantly as the Fuel efficiency will be reduced and hence we are just Harming the Engine .

2. + 1 , i agree , it is pillion friendly .

3. + 100

4. LOL yeah your Right ..

5. I 100 % Guarantee that we can't get 56 KM/Liter even if we Ride in 4 K RPM or Below My Personal point of view - I guess ,we can get 40 KM/liter while we do smooth riding inside City , 35 Km/liter while we Rip inside cities , 45 Km/liter if we ride on highways ( But if you rip above 115 km/hr above you will be getting only 35 - 40 Km/liter ) Comments are appreciated .

Cheers S.V.Prasad

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aargee replied

03-17-2012, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Nithesh View Post

Better Top end?...Honda's 56kmpl efficiency

Don't know Nitesh; its quite hard to say anything unless owner's actually post their riding experience; these are just my thoughts anyway as an enthusiast. I also had another thought on the headlights; anyday, I prefer a twin headlamps than a single for the kind of wattage people use on their cars & trucks.

[IN]BeTrayedxD - Tks; glad my posts were helpful.
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[IN]BeTrayedxD replied

03-17-2012, 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by aargee View Post

R15 already has everything what C150R has. I don't know what is unique with C150R except for colors & graphics.

+ 100

Very well said

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Nithesh replied

03-17-2012, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by aargee View Post

Wrong!!! C150R is over priced for what it isn't even offering!!! Tell me a significant point where C150R scores over R15 pls?

Better Top end?
Pillion friendly?
Exclusivity?(considering R15s are selling like hotcake here and everywhere and i dont see 150R catching up in terms of sales)
Better Ergonomics and comfortable upright seating posture for people of all sizes?
OH i almost forgot the CNB show's indirect quoting of Honda's 56kmpl efficiency
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[IN]BeTrayedxD replied

03-17-2012, 02:06 PM
Hello

[QUOTE=aargee;786842]

It doesn't matter how fast is your ride, what matters more is how much you cherish the ride; like I still feel pride to ride on my Activa as well as my Rx though I've my CBR. That is bound to happen only when you buy something out of love for what uniqueness the product offers rather than anything else.

+ 100

Short and sweet

Cheers S.V.Prasad

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aargee replied

03-17-2012, 01:37 PM
Doh!!! DOHC reduces stress on the engine!!!
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Enthusiastic replied

03-17-2012, 01:35 PM
DOHC is good but for big engines. In small engines the effect of DOHC is not visible and not a good idea to use it on a 150cc engine since cost would go up with negligible benefits.. Maximum big engines(>=600) employ DOHC layout.

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sayank10 replied

03-17-2012, 01:31 PM
a DOHC layout is better than a SOHC layout in many ways- in DOHCs, the valve timing is more precise, and better valve lift is achieved. also, a DOHC setup eliminates the need for rocker arms, hence creating better timing, and valve contact is more direct too. but of course, these are all in stock form. a SOHC layout, when tuned, can be as efficient as a DOHC, but under proper tuning, DOHCs always achieve more power than SOHCs...

there's not much for the layman. In fact, due to the valvetrain package being heavier on DOHCs, their low-end torque might suffer, making the SOHC a better traffic/daily-drive bet.
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ABikerAtHeart replied

03-17-2012, 01:16 PM
DOHC means Double OverHead
Cam, or sometimes it could be
called "Twin Cam". A DOHC
setup is used in most of newer
cars. Since it's possible to install
multiple valves per cylinder and
place intake valves on the
opposite side from exhaust vales,
a DOHC engine can "breathe"
better, meaning that it can
produce more horsepower with
smaller engine volume.
Compare: The 3.5-liter V6 DOHC
engine of 2003 Nissan Pathfinder
has 240 hp, similar to 245 hp of
the 5.9-liter V8 OHV engine of
2003 Dodge Durango.
Pros: High efficiency, possible to
install multiple valves per
cylinder and adopt variable
timing.
Cons: More complex and more
expensive design.
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aargee replied

03-17-2012, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post

Agreed, considering that Duke's price is introductory and will soon be hiked, I still believe CBR250 is a great product at that price. More over it's complete contrast to Duke 200 and hence serves a different set of requirements. If anyone is looking for a tourer, then I think it has to be CBR250, I don't mean to say that you can't tour on Duke 200. But if most of the riding happens within city with occasional touring then Duke will sound more practical

Agreed with all the points, but still contemplating on "I still believe CBR250 is a great product at that price"; C150R's pricing is very close to 250R. But then, if you look at HMSI's product portfolio, they're one damn people who're catering the entire Nation. I mean soon to come Yuga to scooters to premium segment without anyone's assistance, while making products affordable; which can be looked positively & may also lead to disaster.

Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post

Without a doubt!

And I love such people

Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post

Two things...go the Jazz way

Let's see how C150R fares

Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post

Lot will depend on how P200NS will be priced

IMHO, P200NS will simply eat away a major portion of R15, C150R & C250R or may even the D200.

Originally posted by ABikerAtHeart View Post

OT: Any idea how its better than SOHC,anyone?

Mid's link is fine
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mid replied

03-17-2012, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by aargee View Post

No way!!! The only selling factor for C150R I see is to price it below R15
The inclusion/ addiction of doch and over squared config and higher compression may help it more to rev more and freely over the r15 (only a face to face ride test can confirm this authentically though) apart fr0m the comfort, cbr badge(people get attached or affectionate for diff. brands) looks(individualistic) factors
and the hondas/ cbrs tend to feel to have more torque while riding no matter what the paper has to say, difference may be in transmission/ less drive train loss/ tuning or whatever it is :P
It used to be a great product until Duke was launched; ofcourse C250R still has advantages that its a quarter litre made by Jap, fully faired sports bike sold in world wide.
duke is a great product and it'll be competiting against cbr in the market, no matter how track oriented/ fared both cbr and r15 are, look out how much ktm and bajaj are going to hike its price. (Duke is my personal choice from the three, may be u could include 250r to this)

Wrong!!! C150R is over priced for what it isn't even offering!!! Tell me a significant point where C150R scores over R15 pls?

Think it in Honda's way, the production cost of cbr 250r and 150r may not be much different. one of the reason why duke 125 is not launching here.

answers in bold

Originally posted by ABikerAtHeart View Post

It has one extra over head cam,does it? DOHC..

OT: Any idea how its better than SOHC,anyone?

This link might help

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ABikerAtHeart replied

03-17-2012, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by aargee View Post

No way!!! The only selling factor for C150R I see is to price it below R15

It used to be a great product until Duke was launched; ofcourse C250R still has advantages that its a quarter litre made by Jap, fully faired sports bike sold in world wide.

Well are you? My point on fan boy is simple; be a fan boy of product than a brand, which is more logical.

Wrong!!! C150R is over priced for what it isn't even offering!!! Tell me a significant point where C150R scores over R15 pls?

It has one extra over head cam,does it? DOHC..

OT: Any idea how its better than SOHC,anyone?
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