lol...thats a good one.Well i fear the same in the long run.

why the negativity man?
how are the quality of components of TVS generally?

A good ABS system's electricals may decide the "maximum+safe" braking force even better than a man does.

On a machine without ABS, you apply brakes carefully by judging the grip available. On a good ABS system, you can slam the brakes and get "maximum+safe" braking force... electronically of course.

The CBR 600 ABS 2008 model, is a good example. But don't expect RTR ABS to match it exactly or better it...

Regarding the price premium over normal RTR, the earliest reports mentioned it to be around 10,000 rupees. But a recent article by Bike India says it will be 2500-3000 rupees costlier, which I find hard to believe. Most probably it would be made by Bosch Electricals.

The real treat would however be those new soft-mixed compound tyres that TVS was working on, combined with this ABS.

@ dushyant123: I believe, ABS is useful on any machine whose brake system is strong enough to lock its wheels and cause an accident.

There is nothing called perfection when it comes to engineering. You can even improve the best of the things currently available. Believe it or not, when your skills combined with electronic assistance stop your bike in lesser distance, you will automatically have improved confidence, thus making you a better and safer rider.

shouldn't be discussed here, but still..
Try tapping the brakes(with high pressure on levers) as fast as u can, and note the distance then try doing it with one pull of the lever without releasing the pressure. note the distance you take to stop.
P.S-one genious once said, you have to believe in your creations to make them work.
Believe that ABS will stop sooner due to electronic assitance and you will stop sooner

At the end of the day, the rider rides the bike, not electronics.
its not like a mechanical wire that breaks under high pressure. It doesn't go kaput just like that. Its electronics and sensors that makes it more reliable or else normal discs would have always been preffered over electronic assists.

is bajaj listening..........i would love to see this on new generation pulsars..........after all pulsars pionereed everything in india in sports biking....anyway....i was just hoping.......

yes,ABS on pulsars would be great as it has redefined biking in india!!

TVS has a patent for ABS on small capacity bikes and scooters. So ABS on the current pulsars (all cc) will most probably never happen. But ABS on a bigger pulsar well.... maybe.
Its like bajaj's patent on two spark plugs(DTSi), remember what happened to TVS Flame(125 cc)? But then came RF thunderbird twinspark(350 cc)

can we get it in old rtr180 bikes at extra cost.

Sorry,i dont understand this.
How can ABS be a patent for TVS?i mean its is an old and common tech right?so how come TVS gets the patent?and even if they have the patent,isnt there anyway BAJAJ or anyone else be able to also use the tech?

You forgot that Bajaj has the patent of the twin-spark even after many companies have used this technology in their machines before?and they sued TVS for using it in Flame.
Now its TVS's turn

No one here ever said its not required.. I too know the advantages of ABS.. And, i've used it at 165+ kmph to come down to near 100 kmph drastically.. What i'm saying is, ABS is a good feature, but not a mandatory one in India as being forced by EU.. And there's a good reason why its not being made mandatory.. How many people in India actually go the RTO and take a test for their driving license..? When the average IQ of the Indian Commuter is less than a DODO Bird, its like handing a AK47 to everyone by fitting ABS.. I recently read a Tamil automotive magazine which has quoted that "ABS will stop you from falling off your bike even if you SQUEEZE your bike's brake lever to full pressure even at top speed.." When we have such IDIOTS in the country, i think it only endangers the majority of the biking populace.. This has been the sole reason why i've been against ABS on two wheelers at the moment..

Yes.. I saw the video and i know that.. Please read above for my reason to dislike ABS in India on 2 Wheels..

All said and done, if your battery conks out due to faulty ABS sensor staying active even after vehicle has come to a stop will only mean that you'll end up being frustrated.. There have been numerous reports of such problems in the 2009 versions of many ABS equipped SBKs..

The whole patent thing is for THAT particular design of ABS.. If Bajaj decide to procure an ABS unit from Kawi or design one using Kawi tech and fit it, then they've no probs whatsoever for the patents.. Regarding the twin spark thing, AFAIK, its not based on cc.. Its more to do with the placement of the plugs in the cylinder head and their firing pattern.. For eg, the Pulsars will fire both plugs below 6000 rpm; but above it, only the left plug fires.. The right plug will be dead.. But in RE, both plugs fire simultaneously tilll the rev limiter.. Also, i think they don't have a firing LAG between them unlike Pulsar which advances and retards the firing order of the two plugs based on engine mapping.. But i might be wrong.. Experts please step in and clarify..

What that patent means is that any other manufacturer can not reverse engineer TVS's ABS system and apply it on their products...
It just means that Bajaj will have to develop their own ABS.....

TVS thought that they can get away by just saying they are using twin spark plug in 3 valve engine and not 2 valve engine, but they were using in the exact same pattern as that of Pulsar.. but due to our law, they couldn't do it.. and due to the same strange law, Bajaj got a patent on something that's not invented by them!!

But using ABS on Bajaj bikes shouldn't be a problem, as long as they don't reverse engineer/mimic TVS ABS.

See 1:30 in the video. Whats he saying..? ABS is scary on wet tarmac..?

Any hint on this..?

So your against ABS only because of the public behavior?
ABS is optional so i guess only the ones aware of its advantage will go for it by paying a premium.anyway ABS is the future and since bikes are getting bigger here,its good to see it come esp. from an Indian Manufacturer.
Ok.so if BAJAJ develops their own ABS,its fine right?