what if your tyre blows out when you break, or not even that, what if your break lever comes in your hand while breaking. C'mon man you know were not talkin about all that. Its the ABS that is in question here. Its obvious that everything at root level should be ok inorder to judge its performance and reliability.
If you want to highlight the articals in media about ABS failing due to battery or a faulty sensor you then my personal comment to that would just be, that the media highlights anything and anyway they want it to. Its upto you to understand how much a big issue it is. or else even a cow stuck in mud can also me made a world wide issue if it comes to the media
Yep, thats what seems to be the objective here,

Just one question though,Basic principle of ABS be it from TVS or Honda remains the same,central electronic control unit (ECU), wheel speed sensors, and at least two hydraulic valves.So if TVS patented their ABS does it mean that Bajaj or any other manufacturer while developing cannot have these parts?

Would burn out still be possible with a ABS on a bike!?

He means that its scary to test hard braking on a wet surface because there is always a natural fear of falling.

For example:
while driving, if i see some twig or leaf falling on my face i alwys end up closing my eyes but i know i am waring a helmet with a visor but still my body reacts that way.

Yes it would be,
Understand the basics, it just doesn't let the tyres "lock" and "skid". It will allow the tyres to either lock or skid alone, but not together. and ABS does this while matching the speed of the from and rear wheel. it the front wheel is not moving at all, you can spin the rear as much as you want. however, while a standing burnout at times causes the front to start skidding forwards, thats when the abs comes into play and prevents skidding.

in a burnout the front is locked and the rear is spinning(not skidding)
ABS will just avoid locking and spinning of the same wheel.
Ans what ABS does while braking , Traction control does the same while accelarating.

Firstly TVS might be having a Patent on some specific function/design of component/system, which is Novel, Useable and Non-Obvious.. in simple words.. the patent is on somethings which others dont have.. and TVS invented/improved the ABS system.

So what that means.. any other company cannot simply go out and copy the design of TVS which is not patented/Patent applied for.

Yes.. any other company is free to use the TVS technolgy.. considering they get a license from TVS to use the same technology. And TVS agrees to give the technology.

An example - In HH Karizma ZMR.. PGM-Fi.. there must be specific areas which are patented under Honda. But Hero group being the partner has the rights to manufacture and sell PGM-Fi... As Honda has provided license to use the technology.

What Bajaj claimed in the DTSI patent never existed in this world previously.. thats why they got the patent.

Getting a patent is not a cake walk. A new invention is to be proved that it is Actually New and never existed in this world. Then only one gets a patent.

Just for an example - If someone invented a new technology in US and then a company in India copies that and files a patent application in India.. they wont get the patent as the invention is existing in some part of world (in this case US). There is a long process of getting a patent.. and it takes anything from 2 years to 4-5 years. Lot of background research and analysis goes before a patent is granted.

Guess I got meself kinda confused with the two technologies!! ABS n Traction control

ABS doesnt allow the tyre to lock when you brake hard.. this means.. how it works is - Brake..go..brake..go..brake..go..brake..go.. this doent allow the brake to lock.. and thus the tyre will not skid.

Visualize this way,.. when you intentionally skid.. what you do?? YOu brake hard.. so the tyres lock.. and you skid. This will not be possible with ABS. ABS will not permit you to skid.

Traction control - If your tyre tries to spin faster.. the Traction control system applies brake automatically to stop the tyre from spinning fast.

When does it happen... Assume you are trying to move your bike on ice.. the tyre will skid.. as there is no friction.. so traction control system will kick in and slow down the speed of tyre by braking.. so as to enable the tyre regain the traction.

This is darn good work from TVS! Now to get the bigger bike rolling.

And to those who mastered the art of braking.1) Theres a switch for you to decide whether or not you should engage the ABS. 2) TVS isnt pointing a gun on your head to buy it with ABS!

Now if only TVS brings out an upgrade to the RTR series quick, then I would rush to the dealer!

I understand that I used to use this method to slow down my Zen very effectively on all those crazy diversion you had to take on the NH4 and had termed it "manual ABS", now the Punto has ABS with EBD so thats what it is. Was curious to know how the ABS kicks on bikes and specifically affect doing burnouts.. Cos ofF late I quite enjoy doing burnouts ON THE r15 it just freaks innocent bystanders makin em believe there is something wrong with this guy's bike and it's smoking itself out lol It freaks em even more when i let that front brake go and zoom away like nothing ever happened! hehehehe!

I don't think this launch is about engine CC but rather only a showcase of the company's technology capabilities. In any case, the performance segment makes up for limited nos.
Competition here in my opinion is in technology and I think TVS has come out on top here.


Lets give them the credit.

Guys,I see a lot of us fighting over TVS' patent and the all new technology...

Actually,AFAIK it was clearly written on the brochure of this thing (Auto Expo,last year) that ABS-tech has been developed in collaboration with Continental AG..

.... Am floored !! Love the color scheme. This or the CBR is my next bike. Decided.

A > 200 cc engine plonked on to this and the same gadgets. I am Sold.

Kudos to TVS for bringing ABS to the Indian Market....

btw where do I get those out-triggers.... (just in case.. )....

While it is natural to think that ABS should come with an engine upgrade larger than 180, spare a thought for those souls who skid in wet and slippery conditions especially when rains begin and the road is neither fully wet nor dry. Even if they are doing 80 kmph ABS will prove effective.


I agree with you that there should have been a better differentiating factor for the ABS version 180, I feel that it is strategic move from TVS, for a better surprise that they may spring. Only time will tell!