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I am not going to go around tracks. well unless the BIC is open for some track days or something like that. I agree but i think even on a road going bike an adjustable suspension is worth the premium. And you don't need to go to a dealer to change the settings, a little bit of tinkering will get you the desired result. But i want that option to tinker around. I have always felt a bike with a good chasis, suspension and brakes is much better than a bike with just a good engine and so so suspension or brakes. Or any other combination thereof.
The daytona is different beast altogether. The price difference is that much more because it carries Ohlins TTX which is one of the best ones that they offer. And a quick shifter and brembos. And an arrows exhaust, though am not very sure about that. The cost of suspension alone over the standard model is around 1500 pounds and when you combine the rest the sun starts shining on its value. It is a very track focused bike, but it is a very good bike nevertheless. It is just that i don't have money for that. Actually i don't have much but at least i can imagine i can pool in around 7 somehow. so that is why i wrote for them to offer a R version on street triple.
at that price it is better than even the ducati 795 and this after me being a very big ducati fan.
lastly all of us are free to make a wish list. street triple R just happened to be in mine.
cheers.
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Guess what, They have template it seems. I got the same email for the queries I asked. Few other questions I asked remained unanswered.Originally posted by Arun Unnikrishnan View PostI got this reply from triumph officials to my mail inquiring about the bike delivery schedules-
Hi Arun,
Thanks for your mail.
We are currently looking to appoint 3-4 dealers across major metro
cities in India. The bikes will be available after that and more details
on dealerships/finance tie ups/ after sales service can be shared then.
The aim is to get dealerships operational by July 2012 and the sales to
start after that.
The guideline ex-showroom (Delhi) prices for the model range are
Bonneville INR 5.50 L
Street Triple INR 5.75 L
Daytona 675 INR 7.00 L
Speed Triple INR 8.00 L
Tiger 800XC INR 11.40 L
Storm INR 17.00 L
Rocket III INR 22.00 L
More details on our product range in India are as attached.
Best regards,
Ashish
Ashish Joshi
Managing Director - India
Triumph Motorcycles Limited
Normandy Way
Hinckley
Leicestershire
LE10 3BZ
United Kingdom
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Playing around with shocks would not be a good idea. Any error in setting up the shocks by yourself, that too on something as fast as the 675 will hamper the bike and you. AFAIK a track bike shock is setup according to the rider's weight.Originally posted by forty6 View PostI am not going to go around tracks. well unless the BIC is open for some track days or something like that. I agree but i think even on a road going bike an adjustable suspension is worth the premium. And you don't need to go to a dealer to change the settings, a little bit of tinkering will get you the desired result. But i want that option to tinker around. I have always felt a bike with a good chasis, suspension and brakes is much better than a bike with just a good engine and so so suspension or brakes. Or any other combination thereof.
The daytona is different beast altogether. The price difference is that much more because it carries Ohlins TTX which is one of the best ones that they offer. And a quick shifter and brembos. And an arrows exhaust, though am not very sure about that. The cost of suspension alone over the standard model is around 1500 pounds and when you combine the rest the sun starts shining on its value. It is a very track focused bike, but it is a very good bike nevertheless. It is just that i don't have money for that. Actually i don't have much but at least i can imagine i can pool in around 7 somehow. so that is why i wrote for them to offer a R version on street triple.
at that price it is better than even the ducati 795 and this after me being a very big ducati fan.
lastly all of us are free to make a wish list. street triple R just happened to be in mine.
cheers.
This is something I got from few folks I know. So, no experience at a personal level. May be its just their point of view.
Even I would love to see the R coming in to the market but again why do you want an R coming in when most of the bike's life will be in streets and on highways.
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Best sellersOriginally posted by Arun Unnikrishnan View Post
Bonneville INR 5.50 L
Street Triple INR 5.75 L
Triumph Street Triple is coming at a price which is an absolute steal.
Triumph Bonneville would be a treat for many people who believes in simple living and high thinking.
But I have a request for Triumph,
For engines with high compression ratio, Triumph should source some high quality petrol additives from local suppliers so that these two bikes can be used for long, interstate rides without the thought of "low quality fuel souring the engine" (even then what will do away with the impurities and dirt particles mixed in fuel- nothing)Hell's Angel
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Tel: +44 (0)1455 251700Originally posted by j4zb4 View PostCan you write another mail to him...? Ask him about he ex-showroom prices @Bombay...? Pretty Please...
Mobile: +44 (0) 7807 037 125
Email: [email protected]
Ask away
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First of all, unless you're riding right at the limit, you're probably not going to be able to mis-adjust the suspension on any bike badly enough that it becomes dangerous to ride, and if by some chance you do, the owners manual will have the default settings in it so you can get back to "normal".Originally posted by justyhere View PostPlaying around with shocks would not be a good idea. Any error in setting up the shocks by yourself, that too on something as fast as the 675 will hamper the bike and you. AFAIK a track bike shock is setup according to the rider's weight.
This is something I got from few folks I know. So, no experience at a personal level. May be its just their point of view.
Even I would love to see the R coming in to the market but again why do you want an R coming in when most of the bike's life will be in streets and on highways.
Second, setting up a bike's suspension is something every rider should know how to do. I've had four bikes that had fully adjustable suspensions, and have set all of them just fine using nothing more than the owner's manual. There are only three potential adjustments that can be made to any suspension: compression, rebound, and preload. Even a basic understanding of how these interact is sufficient to adjust them properly for anything short of outright track riding.
Compression, or more properly compression damping, controls how difficult it is to compress (duh) the suspension. Turn the compression way up, and the ride becomes bone-shaking. Too little, and all you'll have the tire leaving the ground at every pebble.
Rebound controls the other direction of suspension travel, i.e. how fast or slow the suspension returns to its original position after compressing. Too much rebound damping and the suspension can "pack down", where successive bumps push the suspension further and further in before it can recover, eventually bottoming it out. Too little rebound damping, and the springs in the suspension will jam the wheel back against the road too firmly, and can potentially upset the bike under hard riding.
(N.B. As you may have already deduced, rebound is probably the most critical one to get right).
Preload controls how much pressure the springs are exerting on the suspension. This is the one that is weight-dependent. It is basically used to ensure that there is enough suspension travel available for everything to work properly. Too much preload can make the bike feel a bit jumpy, and has some bearing on how much compression and rebound damping are needed.
The proper way to set the suspension is to get the preload right first. There are plenty of articles out there on getting the proper "sag" i.e. how much the suspension compresses under just the weight of the bike and how much with a rider onboard.
Once the sag is set properly, front and rear, then you can set compression and rebound. The best way to do this is to adjust both settings to their factory default setting from the manual, or lacking that just to the "middle" position. These two adjustments are usually measured in "clicks", since the adjusters usually click every quarter-turn or so. If they are clicker-type, count the total amount of clicks from fully-in to fully-out, and then get to a midpoint. If there's an even number of clicks, choose the softer setting i.e. if there are 16 clicks total, set them to 9 clicks out. If they don't click, just turn them fully from "all the way in" to "all the way out", count the number of total turns, and divide by two. Just as with adjusting a carburetor, start at the "all-the-way-in" position, and come out from there.
Once you have a baseline setting (and make sure both sides of the fork are adjusted to the same settings or the bike *will* ride weird), go for a ride. Do some curves and hit some bumpy stretches. Then, adjust one setting at a time i.e. compression only or rebound only, and only by one or two clicks in or out depending on whether you felt the suspension was too soft or too stiff, then go ride again. See what the difference is. You shouldn't need to go more than a few clicks in either direction for your final setting anyway. For in-town and highway riding, most people prefer to set compression damping a bit soft, and rebound a bit firmer (to keep the bike feeling plush and settled). Here in India, you might want the rebound a bit softer, just because so many roads are rough, and you don't want the suspension to pack down too far. You can compensate for the looser rebound by softening the preload just a bit.
Here's a pretty decent article detailing all of this with some nifty diagrams: http://www.gostar-racing.com/informa...ion_set-up.htmLast edited by The Mountain; 01-19-2012, 01:01 PM.ATGATT: All The Gear, All The Time!
Current bike: Yamaha XT1200Z Super Tenere
Put the phone away, put your helmet on, and ride!
Scooters are like fat girls: fun to ride, but embarrassing if your friends see you with one.
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Thank you sir for explaining it.
And to the question of why will i want an R model, it is simply because there is one. And like i say when you are making a wish, make the one that makes least bit of sense. That is why i want street triple R but i wish for RSV V4.
yeah am complicated like that.
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There are pictures of the new Daytona floating around too. It is logical, since the Street Triple is more or less a naked version of the Daytona.Originally posted by worrisomebear View Post
I sincerely hope that Triumph in India is working on getting the 2013 models and the not the outdated Daytona and Street triple. Otherwise it will be quite a thing to see people in India buy the 7 year old models and viola! Two months later they are discontinued...
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Just like what BAL did with N650. I think Triumph will sell 2012 models till end of 2013.Originally posted by bluevolt View PostThere are pictures of the new Daytona floating around too. It is logical, since the Street Triple is more or less a naked version of the Daytona.
I sincerely hope that Triumph in India is working on getting the 2013 models and the not the outdated Daytona and Street triple. Otherwise it will be quite a thing to see people in India buy the 7 year old models and viola! Two months later they are discontinued...
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Email to Triumph India
Sent the following email to Ashish Joshi yesterday:
Dear Mr. Joshi,
I am one of many riders here in India eagerly awaiting the arrival of
Triumph. I have been following the news of Triumph's entry on the
xBHP.com website for several months now. I was particularly excited
because Triumph intended to bring many of the models it would sell
here in as "Complete Knock-Down" kits, thus enabling it to bypass the
ruinous customs tariffs and therefore to sell at a reasonable price.
In the wake of the Auto Expo in Delhi, the preliminary pricing for the
models Triumph will be bringing was released, and then was confirmed
in an email you sent to another xBHPian, Arun, a couple of days ago,
to wit:
Bonneville INR 5.50 L
Street Triple INR 5.75 L
Daytona 675 INR 7.00 L
Speed Triple INR 8.00 L
Tiger 800XC INR 11.40 L
Storm INR 17.00 L
Rocket III INR 22.00 L
I was dismayed to discover that the Tiger (the bike I intend to
purchase, preferably in orange) was going to be priced like an import
bike, rather than the CKD. In every other market, the Tiger sells for
the equivalent of about 6-7lakh rupees ($13000 USD according to
ADVrider.com and 7700GBP according to your website). Yet here, we're
going to be charged nearly double that. This despite the fact that the
Tiger, at 799cc, falls under the homologation limit for motorcycles
brought into India, and therefore must be brought in as a Complete
Knock-Down and assembled here. I am writing to seek an explanation for
the enormous premium that Indian riders are going to be required to
pay for this bike, seeing as how there is no customs duty to cover. I
look forward to your reply.
Sincerely etc
Hoping I'll get a reply, and not a form letter, soon.ATGATT: All The Gear, All The Time!
Current bike: Yamaha XT1200Z Super Tenere
Put the phone away, put your helmet on, and ride!
Scooters are like fat girls: fun to ride, but embarrassing if your friends see you with one.
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