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I dont want to blame anyone as i dont know how this incident happened. Wish this guy a speedy recovery. Heard about this news on telugu TV channels on the same day and all the channels were saying that 'Bike race leads to the death of Azharuddin's son'. Dont understand why these stupid tv channels jump to such conclusions without knowing the facts. I for one dont understand how a race can take place with only one bike
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Blaming anyone is such a waste of time. Personally, I think on a really bad day, someone can lose his life even on a 250cc bike. Till anyone knows the exact circumstances and the causes, its downright frivolous to label someone as a richkid or pass any such moral judgements.
The fact is that ayaz is still alive, and there is hope - so let us pray.
PS: Samarth- somewhere your post is a fair bit insulting to the average ajmer motorcyclist. I understand folks' motivations in an awareness event, but to assume the public is unaware is ridiculous. That they willingly ignore "cannot happen to me" or suchlike is more likely the case - as is the case with our population - its exploded despite so many thousands of crores spent on driving home that message.http://www.bikenomads.com/wiki/index.php/Leh - All you ever need to know about getting Leh'd.
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Funny!! These aren't mutually exclusive sets.Originally posted by Samarth 619 View PostSuperbikes are exclusive machines which are supposed to be owned by passionate, responsible, experienced & learned bikers, and NOT rich kids.
You do have rich kids who are passionate, responsible, experienced, learned bikers.
& why not have non-passionate, non-responsible, non-experienced & non-learned bikers!! What's wrong with learning on a superbike in a controlled environment if one wants to. One is not born with the knowledge of having learnt to handle a superbike, like you think they should be.
There is such a paradox in this post!! You blame everyone, & say people shouldn't blame others.Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post1. I blame government to create rules in favor of 800+cc bikes only, acting selfishly and not reviewing these rules,
2. I blame Suzuki to bring us "Racy" bikes, in a "Roadie" country, where 600cc street machine would've done more justice to our money and existence,
3. I blame such customers who never realize their potential's limits,
4. I blame Xbhp members for merely posting & blaming others, rather than understanding their role. One superbike owner from each big city can go to their showrooms and offer trainings to new owners, and play their part.
And lastly, I blame myself, because I waited for some XBHP staff to come to Ajmer to help me in an awareness event rather than doing it myself. Sorry for that, entire Ajmer city..
So people, stop blaming other people because in one way or other, we all are responsible for most things happening in our country...
(I ain't supporting a blame game here though. Just that your post is not having a clear message)Last edited by tibby; 09-13-2011, 03:02 AM.
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Well Said.... I am really pity on those son's/Daughters of celebrities or politicitian. In india if accident happens and some one dies then we speak about the manufacturer or the govt. most of the time govt.Originally posted by bikerharis View PostThere is no point in complaining about the ride, rider's age. Let it be a 1000CC SBK or a 100CC Splendor, let the rider be 18 or 40, If he is not aware of his and his bike's limitations and he don't ride safely and responsibly he will face situations like this.
I saw few people pointing out he was over speeding and he was wearing only a lid. You guys don't forget one thing that a large number of Xbhpians are still riding only with a helmet on and most of us ride at speeds more than 100KMPH on our pony sub 250 CC rides and still we are criticizing and speculating about this tragic accident.
This is a sad news. What we can do is pray for the boy, educate others about safe riding and be a safer rider ourselves.
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Let me ask two questions.
1. If Azaarudin has gifted the super bike/Car and spent more money why can't he educate his son about biking before gifted.
2. Where is the self discipline/motor cycle law gone over the public roads with out gears and that too with pillions?
Yes this is Bad news and we can pray but this is a lesson for the every celebrity's/politician son. Everyone can earn money and get a super car or bike. But are we respect those bikes/Cars? or manufactured by the engineers who puts lot of effort? Just simply insulting "kitna mileage?"
Most of the xBhpian who loved and restored their bike from every single nut or bolt or the one who knows in & out of his new bike Will they rip their bikes?
Come on guys "Great Power comes Great Responsibility" don't try to blame others, lets take our responsibility first.
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Someone from Hyderabad told me that this guy was riding at a speed of 200+ on one of the best roads in the city but on that road, bikes are not allowed to be ridden.
Now if that's true and the fact that he was only wearing a helmet, and the pillion was not even wearing a helmet, I find it plain stupid for someone to do so. It's tragic what has happened but at the same time it is extremely irresponsible on the rider's part to have done so.
No roads in our country permit such high speeds and riding like this on city roads is downright irresponsible.
I wish the boy a speedy recovery and hope that he has learned his lesson. I think it's a lesson for all of us to act responsibly on the roads. It would save precious lives.Signals which are timed for 50 Kmph are also timed for 100 Kmph :)
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Can we guys just stop *****ing about the same & pray for the budding young lad whose fighting for his life pls..? I thought we guys were mature enough to handle this situation without cracking jokes & with least amount of sarcasm, but it turns out to be the other way here.Originally posted by Satyamzmayes he was riding at around 200kmph ...i read it in an English newspaper...
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A mature head and restrained right wrist is what one needs on a Motorcycle. Yes, young lads with fast Motorcycles tend to be reck-less but this is for their parents who should have a hawk eye on their gear and their riding habits.
I just wish there were stringent licensing authorities. In India, on the same license, you may ride a moped as well as a S1000RR and we all know how very well can licenses be procured.
Despite so many road accidents and India leading in road accident causalities, authorities are so casual to even act upon & curb it.
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I would blame the parents to let a 19 year old kid ride a 1000 cc Gixxer. Giving superbike in the hands of untrained people is a clear case of stupidity and negligence.
I know the authorities are blind but at least the parents should be rational in thinking. Licensing authority can just give you the license but cannot decide on which machine you will ride or not. We cannot blame the authorities even for the personal decisions we make when we let the kids ride such big machines on roads. This is clearly a decision to be made by the parents who are mature enough or the user himself if he/she is mentally sound.
Please guys respect the machine and your life as well.Last edited by [email protected]; 09-13-2011, 11:34 AM.Regards,
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Totally agree with Sheel on this. The Indian authorities instead of coming up with some rational approach, would start blaming bikers and bikes and try all sorts of histrionics to impose speed limits and bikes not allowed kind of crap. In US, even if you are a F1 racer, to ride a motorcycle on road, you would need a special license and believe me, it's very difficult to get a motorcycle license over there.Originally posted by sheelpriye View PostA mature head and restrained right wrist is what one needs on a Motorcycle. Yes, young lads with fast Motorcycles tend to be reck-less but this is for their parents who should have a hawk eye on their gear and their riding habits.
I just wish there were stringent licensing authorities. In India, on the same license, you may ride a moped as well as a S1000RR and we all know how very well can licenses be procured.
Despite so many road accidents and India leading in road accident causalities, authorities are so casual to even act upon & curb it.
Today morning the Times of India came up with an article recklessly saying, Super bikes can be killers and has tried to classify 600-1000cc motorcycles as Super bikes and 100-250cc motorcycles as ordinary bikes. I mean common give me a break!! A 19 year old kid with only a helmet can crash a 150cc motorcycle at speeds of 80 kmph and still be in the same condition as Azhar's kid is today. I've seen worse on a 100cc motorcycle. Our media instead on putting emphasis safe riding came out blabbering about Super bikes.
Always remember - "The weakest link on a motorcycle is the nut that connects the saddle with the handle bar". It all depends how experienced that nut is and it's a collective responsibility of all of us to nurture that experience.
The concept of a safe vehicle is a myth in itself, leave apart motorcycles, but if someone asks me, then I would be say that a Super bike is the safest pair of wheels that you can buy, just because of the amount of thought and engineering that goes behind making each individual unit of these bikes. All is needed is a sane head on responsible shoulders and these bikes can be your biggest mentor on road. A 19 year old kid, which a inquisitive brain cannot handle the excitement that rushes in on these bikes. Azhar himself should have thought about this. Proper riding gear would have saved the day for both the kids.
I wish speedy recovery for the kid and pay my respect to the departed soul and let this be a lesson and eye opener to our society who thinks riding in proper gear is just for the purpose of show off
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@ csajal ^^^ +1Use your brain to save your brain. WEAR A HELMET!
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Former cricketer and Congress MP Mohammed Azharuddin's son Mohammed Ayazuddin, who suffered critical injuries in a high-speed motorcycle accident on Sunday morning, continues to be in a very critical condition on the second day. Ayazuddin cousin, Azmal-ur-Rahman, had succumbed to his injuries in the accident.
On Monday, doctors said that the 19-year-old is suffering from multi-organ failure and doctors are trying to assess the condition of his brain. His vital functions are being maintained with medication and other treatment.
"His (Ayazuddin's) condition continues to be very critical and the patient is being managed in the Intensive Care Unit on ventilator and BP support," a medical bulletin issued on Monday evening by the super-specialty hospital where he is being treated said.Don't Honk Unnecessarily
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I really feel sick after reading the comments on this thread... first of all i dont believe the accident happened completely due to his mistake, i have passed on that road many times (yes,bikes are not allowed on it), around 50 meters of the either side of the toll gates are cement road and most of the toll gates are surrounded with lot of sand... it was just bad luck that he crashed...
Times of India reported that the crash was at 200kmph... **** them... were they present at the crash site with a speed gun?
I dont think the crash was even 100kmph... if anyone crashes a bike to a toll gate at that kind of speed, the bike would have went spinning in the air and it would have ended up in bits and pieces, but we can clearly see that even the fairing isnt damaged totally...
I dont think anybody here has a ****ing right to judge him or his parents(i'm saying this even when i hate azhar as a politician)... If you want to judge, go judge yourself and your family members... if you think you are perfect, go see a psychiatrist... the last thing people want after an accident is some lame ass idiot judging who is right and who is wrong...
And finally, when a luxury bike/car is involved in an accident, it does not mean that they are travelling at mind boggling speeds... i have seen countless articles in news papers where old worthless jeeps which have met with accidents and all the people in it have died...Last edited by saipranav; 09-13-2011, 01:35 PM.Apache 180
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There is a clear division of opinion among the members here and I am sure that too, is because of the varying age! The young riders can see absolutely no sense in why a young person should'nt ride a superbike without training and that exactly is the reason why!!
Age is not a factor only when training is involved. Sachin Tendulkar was 16 when he faced the fiercest of fast bowlers like waqar younis and wasim akram. Now, that does not mean that every 16 year old can do that and at the same time it does not mean that someone who is 30 can do it. Training, practice, experience and honing of skills is what matters. Also gradual going up the ladder. One cannot play a test match without appearing in a league, so how can a person ride a superbike straight after a 150 or 200cc?
Having said that, when there is no training involved, age definitely is a factor as an untrained 30 year old will have more control over his hormones and more riding experience than an untrained 18 year old. But I am sure all the young ones, will not agree with me on this..that's the way its supposed to be at that age!
May Ayaz recover soon and well enough, to tell us exactly what happened in his case. Until then suffice to say, 1) people should'nt ride a superbike without proper training 2) no compromises on full safety gear 3) Go up the superbike ladder gradually 4) The RTA should change licensing laws and have superbike riding schools 4) Govt. should consider commissioning a track, which can serve multiple purposes, such as a superbike school, test track for licensing and for allowing riders to take rides, so that they don't hit the city roads.The company I keep:
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OK.. Enough of *****ing about the poor boy. I may be putting it very bluntly here, but it is highly unlikely that the boy will live a NORMAL life after such a horrific accident. The poor kid did not have a pulse or a heartbeat when he made it to the hospital and has been on life support for over 48 hours. Most of us here are over 19 years and have been 19 year olds ourselves. I, at 19, was the most irresponsible of riders and would never wear a helmet. In fact I never wore a helmet regularly for 1 month straight prior to joining xBHP. But with age came experience, maturity and responsibility. *Since nobody professional was present to teach me this.*
The point here is, there is no framework in this great nation where we can get formal training on handling such beasts of machines which are capable of killing us within seconds of starting up
. At the very least, we have car driving schools which teach us basics of driving a car and basic safety procedures to follow. They may do a very terrible job at doing it, but at least they are present and widespread.
Instead of burdening the manufacturer or the govt. with such a responsibility, the one which should be coming into action is the insurance companies. They are the ones affected by such crashes the second most (after the families involved). The least they could do is start a mandatory certification course to be taken before the owner can get their bikes insured. Also, in the even that they crash, they can have the right to deny a claim if the person riding was not holding a similar certificate.
Assuming Azharuddin (or any other Mr.DhannaSeth) gifted the bike to his teen-aged son and got it registered in his own name, the aforementioned rule would make him complete the said certification course before he can get his bike insured. When he gets down to doing this course, he would also understand its benefits and would urge his son, the eventual 'major user' of the bike to also take the course voluntarily in the interest of safety / an insurance claim if it comes to that.
If such a proposal is implemented by the private/PSU insurance companies (not RTO), (in partnership with the SBK manufacturers, with the cost of the course 'included' in the price of the bike if the registered owner doesn't possess such a certificate beforehand) It can be implemented much faster.
I urge the mods and the whoz who of xBHP to please compose a mass letter in this regard and mail it to Hon. MP Mohd. Azharuddin and the transport minister (whoever that may be) since they are the people affected / concerned who can help this in getting implemented. I know this suggestion will attract flak from existing SBK owners as they will have to bear the extra cost of this training certificate. But we must not forget, this is all for the greater good, for a safer tomorrow for us and our loved ones.
P.S.: Please don't assume that only the SBK owners are affected parties in this scenario here. I would not want myself / my loved ones to become a road-hit victim being hit by an immature+untrained 18 year old riding his superbike at 2xxkmph for the first time on a public road. Controlling these bikes needs training and there are no 2 ways about it.
I think this topic deserves a new thread. Comments, if any are welcome.
I would hate to see Sachin's/Ganguly's/Dravid's/ any other rich man's young boy in a similar situation a few years down the line.Last edited by antz.bin; 09-13-2011, 03:06 PM.Advice is a form of nostalgia.
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