Typical TVS.. Being a TVS fan boy would love to see them develop a ultra short stroke like the 160 just for the kicks... Lets see. And pls do update this thread as and when you shall receive them secret agent...

Why they can't launch it soon? The last 'technical' update was RTR 180 way back in 2009 and a ABS add-on in March 2011. Why TVS can't bring something bigger & better every year?

@Chicane:Thanks a lot for sharing 'inside' information now and then. These tease a Apache fanboy!

Velocity?So,a naked 180 is on the cards.Any information about the price on the 200cc and whether the styling be different than the current ones?

Naked 180?? it's already naked bike

Apache RTR 180 "Hyperedge"..??

I'm guessing the bikini fairing will be taken away to make it look more naked... and the bike will be looking very close to velocity but not exactly same...

The news around the circuit was that TVS is ready with thier 'FZ' killer and have this streetfighter based on the 160\180 ready.

How I wish they take on the impulse using the RTRs mill!

The Apache RTR's are already "Streetfighters" / "Street SportsCommuters"


With a rich heritage / experience of being the only Indian manufacturer to participate in off motocross /supercross racing events with a Factory Racing Team, I am actually surprised that it did not happen.

TVS could have easily become the first Indian company to put out an on-off road (Transroader in Hero Moto Speak) bike. I mean what's the point of having an off road factory racing team?

The most Likely Bike is to be a 250cc Three valve liquid cooled bike with about 30BHP.TVS already makes a liquid cooled 3-valve engine for the TORMAX which is an underbone they sell in Indonesia.So maybe they will try to get a bigger engine of the similar type into the apache platform.The service centre manager told me that they were being trained for a new bike with three valves and Radiator.

What context are you speaking dude

Reminds me of the fanboyism...! Little curious to know, do you work in Automobile Field? Specifically any manufacturer?

How can that be just because they both share the same Split LED Tail Lamps. Wolf eyes? Are those not in the ZMA, ZMR, R15 etc..etc...? About the Mill, i think every manufacturer in the world has a 150 cc mill that can be bored out to a 180 or even to a 200 if the bore is within the specs required to handle the extra cc's. So TVS having their 160 bored out to 180 is their R&D step-Up. Also have you seen the Three Valved RTR's in the circuits? Are they by any chance copied from Bajaj or anyone? Just curious!

All the 600's to 1000's globally put out the same power output more or less with just minimal changes, even their bore x stroke are the same. Does this mean all copy from some other guy who tried to make some random BHP & hell not interested in making something of their own?

- Almost every manufacturer now have made this standard and nothing to complain about he coping her & stuff! Give me a name of one manufacturer who still doesn't have any of these in India.

Only the C-ABS was developed by Honda in 1993 that was introduced in CBR 1000F, rest all the ABS can be developed & Finely skilled by anyone. No one copied from CBR in India i guess!

Have you noticed that almost all the naked looks the same? Even the Streetfighter 1098 headlights looks somewhat similar to FZ1 & Very similar to Naked Hyosung 650. Who copied who here??

This is gonna create a problem here with others i guess....!

P.S. Not a post to pick a fight for Brand wars, just a healthy discussion that i wanted to share & btw. I work for Media & not for any Automobile company!

Cscsarkar-I really apprepriate TVS for bringing such good performance bikes at an affordable bikes for the Indian peoples,and more importantly they are the one who launched the ABS,first by an Indian company.Had Bajaj and Hero launched it first,then you would have said that once again TVS had copied other manufacturers.And you mentioned that Hero have there own R&D.When and where?Are you the supervisor of that so called R&D team?Bajaj and TVS have achieved a lot through their own R&D.They do not look for other companies like some do.
And recently they have achieved a breakthrough technology,which can improve the fuel efficiency by 20%,after an research of 6 years.

Look in the mirror and you might find something uglier than TVS.

@cscsarkar331 : I don't know on what basis you judge ugliness, but most people here will not agree with you

Very well answered, I ride a TVS and I guess TVS owners might know how I am feeling now.I find it offensive

It would be better if people don't bash brands just because "they" don't like it. Every brand has their own USP and are good in one or other way.

Now back to the topic, its better to utilize time on that , than waste on something not relevant

+100 to that! And I know Prateek You said to cool it off, but I was very offended too! This is like the most absurd thing!!