It should actually be 1-2k cheaper in new bombay as compared to bombay because of the octroi.

Just like corruption in our country, as long as people are willing to pay 'extra' just so they don't wait like everybody else, dealers will also be providing this 'facility'


Err, last i heard, bajaj took the engine tech from kawasaki and built the first pulsar (remember the kawasaki eliminator?). From there, it's just been boring out the engine and adding 1 spark plug every 5 years (approx lol). And with the ns, they've basically taken the ktm engine and cheapened out the head. Pretty much the same as all of them EXCEPT yamaha with the r15. Not sure about the fz/fazer series engines. Even TVS has taken the fiero engine and stretched it out to what they're selling now (i own an rtr fi). Facts are facts. Had to point it out.

P.s. i like the NS even more than the ktm and would probably buy it if i were looking to buy a bike today. so there! :-)

Eliminator and Pulsar engine had no similarities. Got the money?? go buy an eliminator and avenger 180.. take it to mechanic.. dismantle the engines and that will prove how much you know about bajaj.

PPS - Looking at your limited knowledge.. I wont reply to your replies.

Really liked..!

Lucky those 5 first Owners..!

As Zigwheels,
So July to here

1. The P200NS will cannabalize Bajaj products. Every Bajaj product has. This is no exception

You know why?
Coz thiers is the most active "performance" segment with a "range" of products. So the probability of cannabalization is just higher!

You think Bajaj doesnt realize this?
They do, perhaps thats why the "speedlines" edition comes into the picture

Whats the big fuss about Platform sharing!
Its a pretty common phenomenon!
T135 transformed to Vixion to R15
The Gladiator Platform was hacked for the FZ
The Honda CB enginess still exist in India in a zillion avatars. Hero didnt beg for it. It BOUGHT rights for it!
The Honda CR engine poweres the ZMA\ZMR\

The NS shares the same gearbox like the Duke, but how does it make it a problem?
I for one see it as a BIG boon, that NOW I have a world class gearbox (and may I say Block piston too atleast the spec wise) in a sub 1L price band. And fcuk it doesnt end there! It has a solid perimeter frame, 'world class' styling, Liquid cooled, 4 Valves and is STILL Countrys CHEAPEST bike offering all that and has 50more ccs, and 5 more bhp from its nearest peer! Does that make a R15 a bad bike NO. Doesnt that make the 200NS a bad bike. DEFINITELY NO!


NO ONE POINTS A GUN AT YOU AND MAKES YOU BUY A BIKE. Be it Bajaj or Honda or Hero or Anyone... the name calling and fanboyism is absolutely kiddish! Have an affection for a brand. Buy its bike. Simple. Why troll!


Mr. Alok Das - Dude! Vipin_S has a reputation. Why are you making one for self! You were better

1. The very bike had issues (came out into media as well) even before launching.
2. Ok Saar, as I said, P220 will be dead on day of launch, expect P180 to die if it's not priced with common sense.
3. I saw more than this excitement when P220 was launched not long ago, it was dubbed almost as 8th wonder of the world, this very bike will die soon....
Edit : Sorry, that bike died (P220 Fi) , the second version will die soon

Why do you care for P220 kid????
Looks like you are jealous of Bajaj as it launched a way better bike than Hero Moto can ever manufacture. LOL

WOW. That's like 9,000km's on each bike. Did they all went on a all India road trip or what?
Bold above: So finally we have a perfection. Alok, what are you high on today?

Really?

awesome pic

LOL, mr. know it all, if you're so smart, what are you doing trolling this forum?

Nobody said anything about the eliminator and avenger being similar. Why did you bring it up?

You said bajaj is indigenous and I said they used kawa's tech to build the first pulsar itself. if you know so much, answer that?

Even their boxer, which became the platina and whatever they call their small engined mopeds now, are based on the 4s champion, which was a kawa design. sure, bajaj has innovated and captured the market from the hero leaders wel, but they haven't really done anything ALL by themselves as you try to portray it.

Boxer was a Kawasaki model and that's the reason why it got stopped immediately after the Kawasaki-Bajaj JV! But do you mean to say they have taken a 125cc eliminator and upsizing it since then that really doesn't add up. From whatever little I know, Pulsar is their own effort.. and the fact that it wasn't really perfect, had niggles in UG1, 2 & 3 shows that. If they have taken Kawasaki tech, probably that wouldn't be the case.

Jeez man, how on earth are you people adding this stuff up. I didn't say the boxer and eliminator had anything to do with each other. They were both separate examples. Let me try and clarify.

1st about the boxer etc. All the bajaj 100c bikes were basically derived from the 4s champion, which was kawa tech. They just kept changing the name and modifying minor stuff.

The eliminator had a kawa engine, i think they launched it with 150cc? Later, when they rechristened it the avenger it just used the pulsar engine with some mods. kept bumping up the capacity by the usual 20cc. still basically a pulsar engine.

Now to the main bike in question, the pulsar. Calling it an indigenous development is a joke after all the years bajaj spent hitched to kawasaki. Is it really so hard to see? A company has a JV with an established foreign manufacturer, uses the technology transfer to build bikes, then years later dissolves the JV and says the bikes are now their own. Well, duhh, where did the original tech come from? the foreign partner! You would call something indigenous if they built something without having had a jv with someone in the past. if the pulsar, launched way back in 2000 i think, was their own effort, after all these years of R&D they would be able to build something much better? Something as good or even better than the ns without having to borrow from ktm? save the head config, it's pretty much the same engine.

I used tvs as an example because of all the manufacturers, their bike's evolved the most, indicating more in-house development. If you consider that the rtr is basically the fiero engine, with a huge number of changes, so much that you may not even recognize it, if tvs claimed that the rtr was an indigenous development, that would be a big joke too, to people who know the fiero and rtr engines insides. but it's still the most evolved of any jv sourced engine.

All i'm saying is that bajaj has done pretty much what every other indian manufacturer has done, just don't try to portray them as being able to develop their own engines. they used the tech they got from kawa years ago and went from there.

Err Samarth/Antz, as per your own rules, what does this post qualify as?

I didn't really care about posting on this thread, but reading this kind of post really riled me up, which is why i bothered to post about the 'indigenous' bit. I see posts being deleted left right and center, but this one still stands...

Everybody needs to relax! Come on guys!

Just because you bought a certain bike from certain manufacturer does not make you their advocate. So that you start fighting for them. They don't pay you. Don't waste your energy for them.

I have a product from company A, but company B comes out with a better product. Why would i still want to fight for that.

In the end we Indians are getting a very good motorcycle! Which 10 years before we did not! We should celebrate this fact on each new generation of bikes launched.

We have to reach to even bigger bikes with even more cylinders! The world is already there [1000 + cc]. And we are arguing on mere 200-300cc bikes!! Only constructive criticism will help. Not fanboyism.

Ride safe!

I think the thread needs to be closed as it served the purpose. No need to bash out comparing apples to oranges.

Peace !!

Finally one sane post..