Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to get Fuel Injection?: xBhp News

[MENTION=59693]avhad sitaram[/MENTION] I never say anything without thinking first. And truth be told I have found that my knowledge is often mocked by people. I choose to only involve myself in a discussion when I know my stuff. I know I came of a bit diffensive in my last post for which I apologize but I got irritated by all the comments on my posts highlighting pulsar fanatisizam. I myself have owned and ridden a pulsar 150 and 180 in the past and I want to let you know that the above post was not ment for you but for all others who have left comments on my post stating the superiority of the pulsar and inferiority of other bikes. I have quit this discussion and I wish to argue this no more. My intention was not to hurt or insult anyone here. I was just sharing my knowledge and as such unwillingly ended up creating a fight here. I am leaving this discussion and possibly all others except for my thread and I shall think twice before so much as even trying to give my knowledge or share my opinions in the future. Cheers and happy posting 😏

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to get Fuel Injection?: xBhp News

peace out guys .

FI Vs non FI will go in till eternity . it;s like which come first.. Hen or Egg. in all the heat, we are forgetting about one imp question.

If FI version is coming ...When Is FI version getting launched ?

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to get Fuel Injection?: xBhp News

I rode a all black pulsar 180 and fell in love with pulsars and got myself a 220Fi .
Made one of my Buddy to get a NS and he is very happy with it and now we want a improved product and a product which can sell well .

If bajaj launches with KTM tech or whatever tech at the end of the day I need my bike to bring me max bang for my buck.
As long as bajaj does it am sticking with bajaj .

And I know that bajaj by itself can produce much more powerful bike on its own but they shared the tech or copied or stole it from KTM t reduce the input cost and have max profit .(I think the current 15yr old pulsar is now the most powerful air cooled 150cc)


Hope bajaj NS Fi gets a bump in power .

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This was not about Fi vs non fi, I saw bajaj bashing without any reason and as mods were not intervening thought of replying but after my reply this took seriously funny turn when tractors turned to oversquare engines and cbr150 gained itself 50 kgs of low end torque and not to forget Dohc is the holy grail of engine making

I didnt want to hurt anyones feeling so stopped replying. Signing off from this thread until some provocative statements are made..

Back to topic, i feel bajaj needs to work on abs rather than giving ns Fi because the carb is already doing decent job and having abs at this pricepoint will be big plus..

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Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to get Fuel Injection?: xBhp News



Are you serious man? All Mahindra tractors in fact all tractors are high compression because they are diesels. Diesel engines do not have spark plugs and they burn their fuel by compressing it to the point of ignition. Diesel engines always run on much higher compression ratios than petrol engines. The lowest diesel compression ratio is usually 16:1 as opposed to duke 200 compression of 11.5:1. And it is common knowledge that diesel engines are meant for torque not speed. And as such high compression on a non oversquare setup can yeild disastrous results (cylinder explossions and blown heads). Seriously did they not teach you this in school?

And how exactly, can you explain does the DOHC setup reduce low end torque? DOHC just puts the intake and exhaust ports on two different cams. Which any way you look at it just smoothes out the system and reduces stress on the cam shafts. The engines power band is decided primarily by the boring and stroke numbers, the crank size design and weight, and the compression ratio. And that is why the Hyosung gt250 despite its low cubic capacity has a higher top speed than the duke 390. And duke 390 is a DOHC setup so how does it have 35nm of torque then. It doesn't cry below 3000rpm. And the cbr twins are appreciated as city riding as well as touring bikes not redline bikes. And this cannot be acheived without low end torque. I myself have ridden and still ride a cbr250 from timt to time so don't tell me I don't know.[/QUOTE]


I am serious too check oversquare engines advantages and disadvantages , no need to fight and feel offended one may wrong with their conceptions and knowledge , if anyone corrects it or try to correct it think and recheck . btw i had not raised a question on your knowledge just agreed what [MENTION=11460]road_ripper[/MENTION] said , thats it !.

If you were offended in my above comment i feel realy sry about it , afterall we are here to gain whatever knowledge or friends .


Regards
Avhad sitaram

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to get Fuel Injection?: xBhp News

I think GT250 is a twin cylinder and it can easily rev much better than a single cyl .
Plus the aerodynamics of the gt250r will make it to attain a higher top speed .


Duke is currently the performance benchmark and there is currently nothing to beat it .
Waiting for bajaj to produce more powerful engines .
After reading this thread came to know that bajaj had slowly killed its own brand by launching KTM.

Dear bajaj instead of launching different tech first try to build your brand image and your vacancy beyond 200 cc is costing you so much .

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I am serious too check oversquare engines advantages and disadvantages , no need to fight and feel offended one may wrong with their conceptions and knowledge , if anyone corrects it or try to correct it think and recheck . btw i had not raised a question on your knowledge just agreed what @road_ripper said , thats it !.

If you were offended in my above comment i feel realy sry about it , afterall we are here to gain whatever knowledge or friends .


Regards
Avhad sitaram[/QUOTE]

The debate (more like war) originally started with whether four valve DOHC or SOHC. No one talked about over-square. honestly the only advantage is higher compression. couple that with short life of cylinder and you have a bad machine. the debate escalated when one of the members told me I know nothing as if I was talking out of my Ass this offended me as it rightly should. then others ganged up. but instead of putting forth valid points after a while just started saying pulsar best other bikes shit. this infuriated me and then someone tells me which tractor is high compression as if they don't know diesel engines exist and how they function. and all others go "which tractor" "which tractor" as if that was actually a valid point in any universe.
So what I am saying [MENTION=59693]avhad sitaram[/MENTION] is that it went from discussion to debate to throwing shit in the face of anyone who talks against pulsars. this mindless behavior is what offended me not you and I have seen this before which is why I say leave ASAP to save yourself some irritation and stress man. no I was not offended by you but even so this is my last post on any and all threads save for mine and I will even stop that once my restoration is over. and I am through with sharing my thoughts for good. it helps no one and does me no good.

Cheers

Balgi

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yes it is a twin. no duke is not performance benchmark there are others only not as affordable as the duke. If you wait for bajaj to give you true performance you'll die of old age. their focus is commute oriented performance so no matter the displacement they will always be few steps below standard in delivery of performance. yes and no to killing own brand by launching KTM. bajaj started with the suicide long ago, KTM was just the last nail in the coffin.
Go ahead pulsar fans smother me in my sleep coz I spoke against your brand.

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I said Duke was a benchmark just because I found it be the most powerful under 3l .

Bajaj focus was on commuter bikes but then its still makes the fastest bike under 1 lak .
And its a company which upped its bhp when it degraded to carb not the vice versa (hope you get it).

Thanks to their commuter oriented performance so that a 1l bike comfortably keeps up with all bikes under 1.5l.

While the final nail was about to be hit on KTM two companies bought its stakes and things turned around so that KTM is now a profit making company .

No am not a pulsar fan but a bike fan whatever bike that makes me smile I love it be it RE ,TVS .
Posted about bajaj & pulsar because the thread was about pulsar .
No where I did mention that pulsars are the best .
If the best bike is what we should love then RE ,HD should have been extinct by now .

Sorry if I had offended any one .

P.S its a biker forum not pulsar forum no one called pulsar fan boys exist in such forums .

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The pulsar fans bit wasn't about you man. read the above comments.

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Nobody mentioned anywhere in this thread that Pulsar is best bike of India, please go back thru all the pages and read with calm mind.
i think someone has problem with selective reading or just has problem with name Pulsar.
This all started when one user was constantly swearing words at Bajaj and calling them idiots and laughable and company which works out of Engineering dropouts and what not, this is completely not called for and puts a bad impression on forum, this isnt facebook/orkut to go on with single line comments as posts which adds no value or swearing someone for your point of view.
Anyone might be wrong at their perception and fact might be different., it helps to go back and check if they are still right, no harm in accepting if they were wrong.
First thing, Pulsars over the last decade gained only 0.9bhp for pulsar 150 and 0.5 bhp for pulsar 180. > Is this correct? did you try to check and re-check if you were right?
CBR150 which is DOHC is known for its low end torque rather than higher revvability > Did you check on this?
Mahindra tractors are over square and if they are not then cylinder explodes and head blows > is this point correct? did you even care to go back and check if even a single tractor comes with oversquare layout?
Instead of rechecking you are ridiculing a member and asking him what he learnt at school.
Its good to have discussion which helps in knowledge sharing but not mud slinging, please double check before you post anything.
Thanks, hope you understand what i meant, not here to insult or hurt anyones feelings.

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to get Fuel Injection?: xBhp News

Decided to go the nearest Bajaj dealer myself and check out the latest stuff! Got some news:

Just casually asked which type of engine it is. (200Ns) He told its a carb engine and not FI.He told even 220 is carb so that's y the company stuck to Carb on this. Further he added when the SS is launched then maybe the engine might get an FI update.
Since he himself brought the topic, asked him about SS. He told it might be launched around Dec-Jan and not Diwali. He had no idea about price,specs etc. Also not sure if he was taking about 200SS or 400SS. I think it is a pretty reliable source although lots of sites online are speculating a Diwali launch. Did not ask about 150/160 NS. Forgot :P

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to get Fuel Injection?: xBhp News

Can anybody please tell if the carburettor of present Pulsar 200NS(2014 model) can be replaced with the FI system???

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to get Fuel Injection?: xBhp News

It will be a very costly affair, about 20% of the price of 200ns

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Bajaj Pulsar 200NS - Fuel Injected (FI)

IndianAutosBlog has learnt that Bajaj Auto is testing the Pulsar 200NS with a fuel-injected 200 cc engine, which is what the Pulsar RS200 uses. This could be introduced in the market early next year, but not at the 2016 Auto Expo as Bajaj is not participating in it.

The carbureted version of the 200NS in India is powered by the 199.5 cc, air-cooled, single-cylinder, four-valve and triple-spark engine that produces 23.52 PS at 9,500 rpm and 18.3 Nm at 8,000 rpm. The 200NS available in Turkey also has the same output despite the engine having the fuel-injection system. The same engine with FI on the Pulsar RS200 is tuned to produce 24.5 PS at 9,750 and 18.6 Nm at 8,000 rpm. It is unclear if the upcoming FI version of the 200NS in India will have the same power and torque output as the RS200. No major change in the six-speed transmission system is expected.

Apart from the engine, the new 200NS will have slightly different cosmetics, including a dual-tone colour theme (one of which is a yellow and black combination) and the Pulsar badge being moved to the tank fin section from the top of the fuel tank.

Source: Bajaj Pulsar 200NS to be relaunched with RS200's FI engine