Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

I think it needs to be sufficiently different from the earlier engine otherwise Honda might object if they keep it in production after the deadline. Also, I guess they can't use PGM-FI after the deadline, so they will need a different FI system.

Although, it's possible that Hero can keep those models in production which were released before the deadline. Anyone who knows more about this?

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

From where did you infer that Unicorn engine lasts longer than extreme/hunk. I have personally seen my friends extreme cross 1 lac before the bore was opened. In showroom when i was servicing my extreme, i got to ride an old extreme which has crossed 60k and still the the bike felt tight like new bikes.The most common cause with extreme/hunk is that it revs more freely and faster than unicorn as a result most of the boys riding it rip it like hell, and thus engine life decreases. I agree unicorn is more smoother but extreme was designed to be more like a hooligan as it pumps out almost 1 bhp of power more and not only that its power delivery is agressive.

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

From different threads on xbhp itself, it'll be tough to dig them out though. You see, initially, I wanted a bike with good mileage but decent power as I used to drive Pulsar200 and Apache 180, so I researched a lot about Xtreme/Unicorn. After reading several thousand posts, I came to the conclusion that Honda's engines are more reliable than Hero. Overall. in ownership threads, Xtreme had more complaints than Unicorn about vibrations and minor niggles. Of course that doesn't mean Xtreme goes kaput at 50k, the engine used in both is long lasting and reliable, but slightly more in Unicorn, and more refined too. Of course riding style matters too, also, just because a bike is designed to be a holligan, doesn't mean only hooligans are buying it. :P
Hooligans drive like hooligans, doesn't matter what bike they have. :P
Anyways, as a buyer, after so much research, if I had to buy a bike for 50kmpl mileage, it would have been from Honda's stable.

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR 2013 unveiled at Macau: xBhp News

Zmr, being 223cc delivers almost 45-50+ kmpl. I hope this new zmr with more power maintains this plus point. Maybe not 45-50 but atleast 40+.

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Re: Hero Karizma ZMR 2013 unveiled at Macau: xBhp News

Errr, 45-50+, hard to believe, goes against what most people say. On highway it is possible though.

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR 2013 unveiled at Macau: xBhp News

Some questions that have been lurking in my mind ever since the speculation on power increase, on the same engine, has started is, how does it work out between Hero and EBR to work on a Honda engine?!! I mean we all are aware that EBR is Hero's technology partner in their collaboration, so is it a fair utilization of EBR's resources and technical know-how to get them working on the same Honda engine instead of developing a brand new unit? And for what, just to increase 2-3bhp? Couldn't Hero manage just this much by themselves if that is to be done on the existing engine? Is this not under utilization of EBR?

I know this is all speculation so far since we have anything but just some pictures to look at. But, the problem is Hero is promoting these new/refreshed Karizma models as the result of their partnership with EBR. So, would it not have been much better and appreciative of Hero to showcase something absolutely brand new from the ground up (like NS200) to showcase as the fruit of their technology tie up with EBR?

Anyways, we are still not so sure how much of the engine could be new or old. But my questions are based on whatever information we all think we know so far. It is a new design and the ZMR and Karizma are most definitely going to be better motorcycles than they have been. But it seems that the base could still be the same, and that would be disappointing for me at least. I want much better from Hero-EBR partnership.

May be in the future.

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[QUOTE=gagan_rocky;995587]
brother, i was also using Motul Chain Lube and cleaner, as they were being sold by the Yamaha dealers only, few months back, when I went to their service station to buy one. They said they have orders from Yamaha not to sell Motul Products and use the product for themselves.

Thats why I was asking which other good brands are available in the market for the chain lube and cleaner?

Errr... dont you feel we are expecting too much from the karizma engine..

Well, ebr and hero are working to bring the 250 which is being tested and will be launched by march 2014 AFAIK.. karizma is already perfect with the 17ps power.. with 19-20 ps power it will be even better.. this is just the refresh models right??

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Ehh.. I am getting a 40-45 kmpl in city conditions and max I got on highways is 56 kmpl and least 53kmpl at speeds ranging from 80-95 kmph...

I spent about 3300/- only to complete a 2500 kms ride last year.. when the fuel rates were 70/- varying from 68 to 72 (including Nepal rates)

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Most xbhpians have quoted that figure. Though I have a cousin whose ZMR fails to deliver 35+. I get 40+ in city and 47-49 on the highway. I rarely do 100 kmph.

[QUOTE=Rajat Bhanti;995769]If you insist on chain lube + cleaner, use diesel + Tribocor lube.

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what are the color options?? does anybody have any idea??

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[MENTION=27501]rreneav1987[/MENTION]: I hope that is true. What I feel slightly weird is that since these are just refreshed models, should Hero advertise them as the result of EBR partnership? It's a general human nature, and the correct one, that we will expect much more after being told about EBR's involvement in these models. This is how expectations go up unnecessarily.

If a proper 250cc, with EBR, has actually developed and being prepared for launch in 2014, then I hope it's absolutely brand new. I am not expecting/don't want electronic wizardry, I want a new chassis and new front/rear suspension along with the new engine. EBR's involvement should be much more than just tuning the current engine to slightly higher power.

This is what I wanted to convey.

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I understand mate.. thats what everyone would expect.. However as they have already anounced.. the 250cc engine is ready and it will be launched.. not to forget.. they will be launching 15 new products by March 2014 and I am hoping that the 250cc is one of the products..

Like you said.. new chassis, design and suspension.. lets hope they address this and bring in a completely new product

lets wait till then.. atleast i am gonna wait for another 3 years for them to launch a proper bike.. hoping above 400cc.. till then I am happy with my ZMR unless I get an opportunity to go abroad or get a better pay package.. all this is a dream which I hope will come true soon

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Yup, let's hope for a brand new flagship from Hero that shall start a new chapter for them.

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Looks Better on this angle.. They should have changed the styling of tank and the Hero logo makes it worse

I guess the spy pics are making it Uglier.. Have to see the Bike in flesh. I hated the look of P200ns on spy pics, thought it looks like P135, but in flesh it was just Awesome.
So I'm thinking the same would be the case on this new ZMR, well not awesome but something in between bad n good

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR


New Xtreme looks more comfortable and has got better front due to added indicators!