Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

Kawasaki does that too.

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

+1000

it seems yamaha's the only major manufacturer (in india at present) that gets that.

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well, don't know about japan at the moment, but north america and europe will be getting an R3, not R25....and it's being expected (and rumoured) there that the R3 will be a full fledged supersport because that's what everyone who is at all interested in low cc sportbikes there wants and has been waiting for for a long time...but anyway, yamaha hasn't really said anything about it, just trademarked the name "YZF R3" in EU and NA so far and it's not coming out anytime soon either..

R25 seems to be primarily aimed for indian subcontinent and the south east asian countries for the obvious reasons (hence the sport touring styling with kickass proper-R-series like specs and (expected yamaha) performance, hence the tagline "a superbike that you can ride everyday") as yamaha also mentioned in one of their press releases some time ago...for those same reasons it's expected to be sold also in south america as well at some point not very later than when it's released outside of thailand and indonesia for the first time..

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

Front view looks beautiful to me.

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They will keep it under 3L for sure. So no worries about it begin as high as 3.5L, that would be straight-out suicide for the bike.

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

I seriously hope that this bike comes under 3.5L on road. Otherwise, Ninja 300 would become an obvious choice with a more capable motor and that huge catalog of aftermarket parts.

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

In that case they will import the engine from indonesia and get the parts from their usual local vendors. which will get the pricing down.

I see some really nice debate going on here

saying it again, as per the only reliable person i know, yamaha is getting their chennai factory up and running ASAP by jan2015 so that they can accommodate and manufacture more vehicles which also includes r25 by nov2014 the r25 testing will be complete. after that the final tweaks and then manufacture it. launch mostly by oct during festivals.

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and also we cant ignore the part where yamaha is testing the bike in india which makes me think that they are considering india as a next target aft their primary markets.

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

Totally agree. Been bitten by the VFM fast bike bug (although it wasn't that cheap) once, and very shy of a second time! The compromise on peace of mind is not worth the thousands of INR saved. Although I am not a very big fan of well-rounded products, and like my bikes extreme, quality and attention to detail is what matters a lot to me.

ALSO although Yamaha is going with all that 'superbike to ride everyday' thingie, it is to be noted that Japan/EU/US etc are countries that are far better used to powerful bikes than we are. 250 cc bikes are considered as an entry into the biking world there. So making no mistake, this bike is going to be kick-a**!!

P.S : All that said and done, I don't want to look at an RC390. I fear my heart will smack my mind, my legs will race to the showroom and I will fall for that evil orange again like I did before. Ah! this is a very very bad world!!

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia


Quality wouldn't be the same if it gets manufactured here. At best they can bring it here as CKD and localise as and when market picks up. This sounds like a good business move. Hero doesn't come in the list of most buyers thinking about RC or R25.

HXR has to first prove its reliability in the market before it climbs up the ladder.

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Yeah, I agree too that this might not come cheap in the sense we consider cheap but it will be worth it. Consider that Yamaha has done more than two years of research to come up with this finished product notwithstanding all the RCs, CBRs and baby Ninjas, so it's a well thought out product and it shows. Remember the R15 was not made to sell as mass market bike but it was made to sell for a targeted audience and it selling well.

RC will definitely be lesser priced compared to this even if R25 gets manufactured here because you can't beat a Bajaj on pricing and economies of scale. But I'm skeptical of R25 being produced here, because if that was the plan it would have been in the news 6 months back and I am not sure if Yamaha in India is equipped to do a twin.
So in all probability it will come via the CKD like N300 and I'm guessing it would be in the price band of 2.8-3.4L to really be a competitor for N300, so with this being the case even 3L looks dicey and most welcome.

But really a nicely put together machine.

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I agree with your observation but it is based on past products(when there was hardly any competition in 250-300CC products) and hence we cant call it as thumb rule which will be applied to all future products. We need to come out this narrow mindset favoring bike manufactures. Why cant a bike under 2l which is fast,powerful and reliable be created ? If we can get 1000 CC 4 cylinder reliable car under 5 lack I don't see a reason why R25, if produced in India should be priced above 2l.

Lastly I am surprised why nobody is comparing it against upcoming Hero HX250r which has above 30 BHP, more torque than R25(which is vital for touring).ABS and Hero reliability(based on previous products) all priced approx 1.75l.

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I like your style of writing, and how much I wish i could pen down my thoughts like that. keep it up mate. However, for people like me who have been through all that "Value for Money" fast bike syndrome, we aint biting the bullet this time. We are past all that discussion.

Even though I am spending more from my pocket now on R25, I know deep down it is a more well rounded product, which shows Engineering and manufacturing might of Yamaha. Their attention to details is something Bajaj/KTM products lack.

Yes, majority may turn a blind eye to that, however devil is in the details. And for people like me, Nadz and few others it is this attention to details that matters.

I am glad Yamaha hasn't got into the rat race of providing "Value for Money" fast bikes. Respect Yamaha for that.

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Na na, we won't kill you. That's too easy. We will take the bike away and send pics of it every hour

Btw, points mentioned by you about our typical Indian mentality are correct. Most of our decisions are crafted by cost of the product. Only a few will actually take decisions by only considering the performance, features etc.

Lets hope whatever Yamaha does, its for the good of both the parties. *fingers crossed*

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

I guess in India, we develop a default mental mechanism that governs our reactions towards price. Barring the lesser percentage of enthusiastic urban crowd, the ordinary junta will always be finicky in case of high-priced commodities. The RC and R25 analogy will keep igniting conflicts between think tanks; this is just the beginning! As biking fanatics, we can discuss points rationally but imagine a situation which involves the majority - RC390 is a definite win.

For they aren't bothered about the hidden but significant facets that differentiates both the bikes from each other, and make them superior in one or the other feature. A SHOWBAAZ does not give a rat's arse about the functionality anyways, or maybe they are confused in defining their own requirements in a bike.

The problem lies in the fact that we all know, in all probability the Yammie will outshine the RC (I am a YAMAHA fan), but we also cannot deny anything about RC being a superb package overall. And when it comes to our hard earned savings, the typical Indian customer inside us start playing funny games, and we start digging, researching which essentially influences our decisions. BTW if R25 is specifically taking on Ninja 300, I guess there shouldn't be a problem, and yea - why bother about the RC! (that's only me though - 1 in a billion in India)



PS - I am a YAMAHA guy at heart but, if you ever see me, ever, riding a RC (Just in case, okay! just in case), please, please don't kill me

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

At all those who are talking about price of the R25, please remember this.

Fast and reliable is not cheap.
Fast and cheap is not reliable.
Cheap and reliable is not fast.

There's no way you can get a bike which is fast, reliable and cheap as well. For those who want a cheap bike, you have 2 options.
Cheap and reliable = slow
Cheap and fast = not reliable.
It's your choice. Do not expect the R25 to be priced low. It won't be. I am ready to pay 3 lakhs for this beauty. And I'm not rich. I have been dreaming for this for a long time. And my 2 years of hard work and savings are not enough to buy this. Am still a very long way behind. And talking about competition, Yamaha themselves mentioned that they are competing wit the Ninja. I guess you guys missed that part.

OT: that CBR300R looks eye candy and way better than CBR250R. Looks promising.

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Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

Because the 30.6hp CBR300R is in India for R&D right now and will go on sale by the end of this year. Its already launched in Thailand for 2.41 lakhs INR and when the R25 rolls out the pricing will be much closer.