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  • sauravalwaysurs
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    Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

    Originally posted by aquaticbullet View Post
    http://www.ibtimes.co.in/yamaha-yzf-...-report-600898

    Whoohoo !!!
    Seems like it's gonna put a strain on Yamaha production schedule. [emoji4]
    However, that last para makes me shudder with fright. What if yammy brought single pot to keep costs down ??


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    "It also noted that the unknown bike had a declared value of INR 2,16,099." For more light on this line, check out this link.
    Yamaha YZF R25 brought to India for INR 2.16 Lakhs - Motoroids.com
    Its mere a cargo price


    And did they say single cylinder?????????

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  • nadz11.ns
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    Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

    Isn't that a beauty

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  • aquaticbullet
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    Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

    Yamaha YZF-R25 Bookings Cross 2,800 in 25 Hours: Report
    http://www.ibtimes.co.in/yamaha-yzf-r25-bookings-cross-2800-25-hours-report-600898
    Yamaha's recently launched YZF-R25 has reportedly garnered more than 2,800 bookings online in Indonesia within 25 hours, claims a new report.


    Whoohoo !!!
    Seems like it's gonna put a strain on Yamaha production schedule. [emoji4]
    However, that last para makes me shudder with fright. What if yammy brought single pot to keep costs down ??


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  • Sarvajit
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    Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

    Are we confusing nimbleness with better handling?
    Anyway, a 250 will not be quicker than a 150 in city at any time due to the weight difference primarily.

    This time for a change, I'm happy the bike is heavy. At least cross winds won't affect it like the way they affect my R15!

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  • shv18
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    Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

    Originally posted by Adarsh_Bk View Post
    The compression ratio of Duke 390 is 12.88:1 to be precise and its the same worldwide They mostly retard the ignition or do something in ECU for Indian 91RON petrol, but the improvement in response on using Speed97 is apparent.

    Yamaha can as well keep the compression ratio high and still avoid jerks.
    Won't retarding the ignition timing affect the power output/bhps? I don't think KTM has a knock sensor to gauge the fuel quality. Not sure whether just remapping will help in reducing pinging/ knocking on such a high compression platform which ideally wants 95RON but is getting 91 or lesser. Anyways not going further into this.. will be interesting to see how Yamaha works this out in the Indian segment.

    I guess we have had plenty of discussions on the R25, pricing and handling . Time to see when when when?? I guess expected date of rumoured launch should be around diwali or december (ofcourse if at all Yamaha wants to launch it!!)


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  • incipient
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    Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

    I think its obvious that the R25 is not going to be an R15 beater in the handling department. There is a reason why almost much all the race machines out there use a perimeter frame not a tubular frame. The R25 may have the looks of the R15 but not its purpose.

    Honestly i can't understand why none of the Japanese manufacturers are interested in making a hard core 250-300 cc twin with the chassis, suspension, brakes, stock tires and other stuff specced like their supersports. In these times of high oil prices and economic recession i just can't believe there's no good demand for a scaled down supersport bike. :shakes head:
    Last edited by incipient; 05-24-2014, 07:52 PM.

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  • payeng
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    Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

    Originally posted by chinmayakar View Post
    And I am intentionally not typing in bold. It helps to stay cool.

    And yes, R15 is God in handling in India. Cant help if you dont agree.
    I perfer bolds

    By the way if it might interest you, the Ninja and the R15 are almost so perfect in what they do that they feel almost BORING after a point of time! The R15 with its aggressive riding stance has a bit more "character" for me than the Ninja though.

    But Hey..!! That's Me.. and Lucky me that I choose to be an "Agnostic".


    Last edited by payeng; 05-24-2014, 03:37 PM.

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  • Adarsh_Bk
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    Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

    Originally posted by shv18 View Post
    i believe If R25 is launched in india, we may witness a lower compression bike somewhere around 10.7:1 in order to ensure that the engine knocking doesn't take place due to fuel adulteration outside the major city premises. Guys please correct me if i am wrong on this: international model KTM 390 has a higher compression ratio somewhere around 12.6:1 recommending 95 RON whereas the indian model has a lower compression ratio?

    Cheers,
    The compression ratio of Duke 390 is 12.88:1 to be precise and its the same worldwide They mostly retard the ignition or do something in ECU for Indian 91RON petrol, but the improvement in response on using Speed97 is apparent.

    Yamaha can as well keep the compression ratio high and still avoid jerks.
    Last edited by Adarsh_Bk; 05-24-2014, 02:54 PM.

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  • chinmayakar
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    Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

    Originally posted by payeng View Post
    That's your personal opinion and I can't help it.

    In my Personal Opinion is that the Ninja is Leagues ahead of the R15 in handling. i.e "Outside city, around Fast corners and under panic/late braking (now doesn't that sound like someone riding on a track?)".

    R15 is good but its NOT God. But to its credit, the R15 does a pretty good job in Commuting (with decent fuel efficiency) on our congested cities as well.


    Payeng, its quite evident we have difference of opinion. Just like you I too have experience on riding these bikes in city, on highways, on twisties and my experience has been quite different than yours. And I am intentionally not typing in bold. It helps to stay cool.

    And yes, R15 is God in handling in India. Cant help if you dont agree.

    Having said that, to each his own. Good Luck with your riding.
    Last edited by chinmayakar; 05-24-2014, 02:55 PM.

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  • payeng
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    Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

    Originally posted by chinmayakar View Post
    Sorry Sir that braking test is not handling. Anyways my experience shows otherwise. In my books R15 is way above Ninja in handling..And yes, I have tried that braking test..R15 feels lot composed than the Ninja 250.
    That's your Personal Opinion and Definition and you are entitled to it.

    In my Personal Opinion is that the Ninja is Leagues ahead of the R15 in handling. i.e "Outside city, around Fast corners and under panic/late braking (now doesn't that sound like someone riding on a track?)".

    R15 is good but its NOT God. But to its credit, the R15 does a pretty good job in Commuting (with decent fuel efficiency) on our congested cities as well.

    Last edited by payeng; 05-24-2014, 02:58 PM.

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  • chinmayakar
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    Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

    Originally posted by payeng View Post
    I am not considering traffic/streets to rate "Handling". That would fall under "Maneuverability"

    > The Duke with its light front end is best for City/Traffic runs and slicing (filtering) traffic
    > The Ninja feels rock steady even at 140 kmph plus straights and precise and accurate on fast corners (even "fast" mid corner corrections aren't unnerving on the Ninja)
    > The R15 feels like a scaled down Ninja in terms of its Handling and Stability at high speeds
    > The 200NS feels like an upright R15 with its center of gravity bit higher than the R15 (and accordingly the handling) and a feeling of slightly less weight on the front compared to the R15 (but more than the Duke)


    Another way to TEST Handling: Rip the bike and then Brake Hard.. amount of confidence one gets on the Ninja, R15 and 200NS (in that order) is something that the Duke can't match (the 390 is better than the 200 Duke on the "fast" handling part though).

    P.S: Haven't ridden the CBR150R, but have heard its a good handler too.


    My experience shows otherwise. In my books R15 is way above Ninja in handling..And yes, I have tried that braking test..R15 feels lot composed than the Ninja 250.

    Filtering through traffic is flickability or Maneuverability as you rightly said. On corners I could lean lot more than a Ninja. Yes, Ninja feels planted on straights or corner, but my experience suggests R15 is 2 notches above. But then if you are more comfortable on a Ninja 250 so be it for you.
    Last edited by chinmayakar; 05-24-2014, 02:30 PM.

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  • payeng
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    Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

    Originally posted by chinmayakar View Post
    I doubt that. I have had the oppurtunity to live with Duke 200, R15 and a Ninja 250. I personally feel R15 handles best, corners better and filters through traffic like its anyone business.

    Next comes the Duke, it is fun in its own way. And then probably Ninja 250. 200 NS isnt in that league so far.
    I am not considering traffic/streets to rate "Handling". That would fall under "Maneuverability"

    > The Duke with its light front end is best for City/Traffic runs and slicing (filtering) traffic
    > The Ninja feels rock steady even at 140 kmph plus straights and precise and accurate on fast corners (even "fast" mid corner corrections aren't unnerving on the Ninja)
    > The R15 feels like a scaled down Ninja in terms of its Handling and Stability at high speeds
    > The 200NS feels like an upright R15 with its center of gravity obviously higher than the R15 (and accordingly the handling) and a feeling of slightly less weight on the front compared to the R15 (but more weight on the front compared to the Duke)

    Also Try This: Rip the Bike and then Brake Hard (as on panic braking).. amount of Confidence one gets on the Ninja, R15 and 200NS (in that order) is something that the Duke can't match (the 390 is better than the 200 Duke on the "fast" handling part though).

    P.S: Haven't ridden the CBR150R, but have heard its a good handler too.



    Last edited by payeng; 05-24-2014, 02:29 PM.

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  • chinmayakar
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    Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

    Originally posted by payeng View Post
    That's strange, as I have felt the Ninja to be the best handing bike (till 300 cc) in India (followed by the R15 and then the 200NS). The CBR250R does feel like a ship in comparo..

    But the Ninja definitely is much more sharper and surer in handling on anything on sale in India, despite its tubular frame.


    I doubt that. I have had the oppurtunity to live with Duke 200, R15 and a Ninja 250. I personally feel R15 handles best, corners better and filters through traffic like its no ones business.

    Next comes the Duke, it is fun in its own way. And then probably Ninja 250. 200 NS isnt in that league so far. I am so tempted to put my RayZ ahead of Duke. Please do not kill me for not agreeing to your point of view...
    Last edited by chinmayakar; 05-24-2014, 01:59 PM.

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  • payeng
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    Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

    Originally posted by ABikerAtHeart View Post
    R15 corners like a gem. Yupp. N250r doesn't. CBR250r doesnt. So will not the R25.

    Reason: Those tubes and that low seat height will make it a better tourer than an agile track tool.
    That's strange, as I have felt the Ninja to be the best handing bike (till 300 cc) in India (followed by the R15 and then the 200NS). The CBR250R does feel like a ship in comparo..

    But the Ninja definitely is much more sharper and surer in handling on anything on sale in India, despite its tubular frame.


    Last edited by payeng; 05-24-2014, 09:19 AM.

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  • chinmayakar
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    Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

    Originally posted by ABikerAtHeart View Post
    Wont be surprised if you are disappointed.

    R6 being less powerful and lighter still corners much much better than the mighty R1. True story.

    R15 corners like a gem. Yupp. N250r doesn't. CBR250r doesnt. So will not the R25.
    Reason: Those tubes and that low seat height will make it a better tourer than an agile track tool.
    Being more powerful doesn't make it easy to corner. As a matter of fact, you might not even have a higher exist speed just because the engine is powerful.

    The R15, especially the version 2, was chiselled into corner carving. Focussed much more to make better lean angles.

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    Ride any Yamaha bike and you will be surprised by its handling prowess. Even their tiny little scoot (RayZ & Alpha) handle, corner, filter like anything. Yamaha have always had handling and dynamics sorted out. I dont expect R25 to be as sharp as R15, however I wont be surprised if it did.

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