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Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
It isn't about the cylinder alone but the money spent on R&D. There is a lot to it. The entire engine is different and not as simple as it sounds.. complicated you see.. I would expect it to be priced around 4L..Originally posted by dnewguy View PostSplendor - 2k to 2006
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Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
hiOriginally posted by rreneav1987 View PostIt isn't about the cylinder alone but the money spent on R&D. There is a lot to it. The entire engine is different and not as simple as it sounds.. complicated you see.. I would expect it to be priced around 4L..
REALLY ?!!
I understand about the R&D and the increased cost of manufacturing etc.
But 4L is japanese ckd territory.
currently the RE goes for about 5-6k grands in foreign markets (roughly 4 lacs)
Although i know squat about product launch/pricing still hearing the 4L bid hurts...
Excited for the news though.
Cheers.You Start Your Life with a Full Pot of Luck and an Empty Pot of Experience, the Object is to Fill the Pot of Experience Before you Empty the Pot of Luck.....!!
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Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
We are talking about 750cc.. while you are talking about 250 to 300cc bikes.. anyways, that is just my assumption.. but don't expect anything less than 3L Ex-Showroom.. If they do manage to get it under 3L Ex showroom, It would be a great VFM unless it breaksOriginally posted by dnewguy View Posthi
REALLY ?!!
I understand about the R&D and the increased cost of manufacturing etc.
But 4L is japanese ckd territory.
currently the RE goes for about 5-6k grands in foreign markets (roughly 4 lacs)
Although i know squat about product launch/pricing still hearing the 4L bid hurts...
Excited for the news though.
Cheers.Splendor - 2k to 2006
Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
ZMR - 2010 to Forever
RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
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RayZ - 2015 til now
Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now
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Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
Originally posted by rreneav1987 View PostWe are talking about 750cc.. while you are talking about 250 to 300cc bikes.. anyways, that is just my assumption.. but don't expect anything less than 3L Ex-Showroom.. If they do manage to get it under 3L Ex showroom, It would be a great VFM unless it breaks
Under 3 lacs would be so welcome a move.
One of my naive thought is,"RE is doing good in market. They can surely compromise a bit in their profit margins and give the twin at competitive prices."
Anyways lets see how gracious they are !
Cheers.You Start Your Life with a Full Pot of Luck and an Empty Pot of Experience, the Object is to Fill the Pot of Experience Before you Empty the Pot of Luck.....!!
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Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
If we need a quality product then asking for too little a price will only make RE compromise. Surely no one will expect compromising quality on a 2.5lks+ motorcycle. While the GT currently still boasts of one of the best quality components & construction, I'm sure the new twin will take it one level further in some areas where GT falls behind. So I'd expect it definitely in the 4Lk range & hopefully addition of more quality stuff.
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Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
That's exactly what I expect... 4L and a good quality product.. RE will win...Originally posted by Kaushik Iyer View PostIf we need a quality product then asking for too little a price will only make RE compromise. Surely no one will expect compromising quality on a 2.5lks+ motorcycle. While the GT currently still boasts of one of the best quality components & construction, I'm sure the new twin will take it one level further in some areas where GT falls behind. So I'd expect it definitely in the 4Lk range & hopefully addition of more quality stuff.Splendor - 2k to 2006
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P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
ZMR - 2010 to Forever
RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
RayZ - 2015 til now
Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now
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Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
I am sure they will launch this bike below 3 lacs if they want to compete with mini harley and many other bikes in this price bracket.sigpic
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Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
Why interested in top speed? I don't think REs are ever meant for top speed .Originally posted by ishaikhi View PostI really hope the bike should have a good top speed.Splendor - 2k to 2006
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Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
I feel this is a shorter stroke engine though I doubt they'll sacrifice the core RE philosophy of bottom end torquey engines, that's their DNA. Adopting Jap style will totally kill the brand & it's British Heritage. Brit bikes were different from the Japs at many levels... not necessarily better but different!!! And Enfield survives in International Market primarily for it's British-lineage and not it's "Indian" connection. And since the team involved is also primarily from UK I'm sure they know exactly what is required.
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Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
hi brother,Originally posted by rreneav1987 View PostWhy interested in top speed? I don't think REs are ever meant for top speed .
You are right. REs are not about top speed, but at least they have to keep up with the growing competition now in in India. There was hardly any competition before, but with super-success of KTMs with kawasaki and Yamaha following closely as well, RE just cannot rely on that awesome low-range torque alone, and certainly cannot ignore the concept of top speed anymore. I believe, after hiring top engineers and designers from Italy and U.K; they have progressed in the right direction.
The young customers of today's generation want better top speed along with that awesome low-range torque. The Classic 500 EFI and GT Continental have top speeds of hardly 140-145 km/hr, which I think is not at all enough being 500cc + engines. I would love to see this 750cc. parallel twin with awesome torque (their trademark characterstic ),with a good top speed of at least 180+. Add to that -- a fat rear tyre, rear disc break along with ABS and better design for reduced vibrations, less leakage problems , better clutch cables and other electricals as well and we will have a winner here.
Cheers......
Last edited by portedyammie; 07-22-2016, 02:40 PM.
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Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
If you want top speed, there are other bikes.. TBH, the HDs would be dead if everyone goes only for top speed.. Moreover, doing 145 kmph without any stress is more than a good enough speed.. Atleast in India.. We have highways which can accommodate higher speeds, but then we have stray dogs, cats, buffalo, cows and most dangerous of all Human beings on the roads..Originally posted by portedyammie View Posthi brother,
You are right. REs are not about top speed, but at least they have to keep up with the growing competition now in in India. There was hardly any competition before, but with super-success of KTMs with kawasaki and Yamaha following closely as well, RE just cannot rely on that awesome low-range torque alone, and certainly cannot ignore the concept of top speed anymore. I believe, after hiring top engineers and designers from Italy and U.K; they have progressed in the right direction.
The young customers of today's generation want better top speed along with that awesome low-range torque. The Classic 500 EFI and GT Continental have top speeds of hardly 140-145 km/hr, which I think is not at all enough being 500cc + engines. I would love to see this 750cc. parallel twin with awesome torque (their trademark characterstic ),with a good top speed of at least 180+. Add to that -- a fat rear tyre, rear disc break along with ABS and better design for reduced vibrations, less leakage problems , better clutch cables and other electricals as well and we will have a winner here.
Cheers......
and I am not a RE fan.. I hate them to be more precise for the horrible vibrations and noise.. but a Twin pot is something I would love to have.. Provided, it has good things I want..Splendor - 2k to 2006
Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
ZMR - 2010 to Forever
RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
RayZ - 2015 til now
Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now
Delhi to Narkanda
Delhi to Coimbatore
Delhi to Nepal
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Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
Originally posted by rreneav1987 View PostIf you want top speed, there are other bikes.. TBH, the HDs would be dead if everyone goes only for top speed.. Moreover, doing 145 kmph without any stress is more than a good enough speed.. Atleast in India.. We have highways which can accommodate higher speeds, but then we have stray dogs, cats, buffalo, cows and most dangerous of all Human beings on the roads..
and I am not a RE fan.. I hate them to be more precise for the horrible vibrations and noise.. but a Twin pot is something I would love to have.. Provided, it has good things I want..
I am not a RE fan either brother. I was not saying-- just to go for top speed completely. But at least a respectable figure being 750 cc. would be good. And I know the dramas we face on our everyday roads. How many times in a day do you think KTM riders race their dukes and RCs at 150+ regularly ?
But the feeling of having a capable engine is nice. And todays youth are very smart and has an eye for detailing. And REs are mostly about feelings of their owners. And I agree with you on all the good things part.
Cheers......
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