I test rode dominar few days back and it also feels vibey post its midrange i.e. 4400rpm
Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
-
Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
I feel C-GT is much more refined than other RE's and RE is improving steadily.Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
I test rode dominar few days back and it also feels vibey post its midrange i.e. 4400rpmsigpic
A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith and use up a lot of fuel....
http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...tml#post963629
-
Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
Well, even though CGT feels well refined compared to other REs. It still vibrates!! Not that much like the C350/500 or TB350 /500 but the fact is, it vibrates more than any other single cylinder engine.. now think of 2 such pistons!! Even imagining makes me feel the vibesOriginally posted by Naveen1985 View PostI feel C-GT is much more refined than other RE's and RE is improving steadily.
I test rode dominar few days back and it also feels vibey post its midrange i.e. 4400rpmSplendor - 2k to 2006
Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
ZMR - 2010 to Forever
RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
RayZ - 2015 til now
Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now
Delhi to Narkanda
Delhi to Coimbatore
Delhi to Nepal
Comment
-
Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
I believe Thunderbird 500 and Continental GT are the only two motorcycles in the RE stable worthy of buying if you're really mad about buying a RE. Handling the GT during a longish test-ride felt like a revelation, owing to the poor handling of RE motorcycles. The GT actually handled really well, very unlike a RE. It also looks really stylish except for some bad weld joints on the frame. The only major grouse are the vibrations which creep in and the feeling of wanting more power/torque. The bite from the brembo brakes was really good!
So after a long time RE has peaked my interest, even though I'm not much into their products and I'm looking forward to riding the 750cc GT, when launched. This engine might have lesser vibrations comparatively due to the twin-cylinder setup, some even speculate it could have 60-65 Nm of torque and ABS, which is much needed for the heavy chassis.
If priced below 4.5 lacs OTR in India for ABS version, this will become a success.
Comment
-
Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
Really.... 180+???. That too in indian roads..... A part of the population who bought KTM for speed are dead now... RE bikes are made for cruising not for racing... Its a relaxed cruiser......Originally posted by portedyammie View Posthi brother,
You are right. REs are not about top speed, but at least they have to keep up with the growing competition now in in India. There was hardly any competition before, but with super-success of KTMs with kawasaki and Yamaha following closely as well, RE just cannot rely on that awesome low-range torque alone, and certainly cannot ignore the concept of top speed anymore. I believe, after hiring top engineers and designers from Italy and U.K; they have progressed in the right direction.
The young customers of today's generation want better top speed along with that awesome low-range torque. The Classic 500 EFI and GT Continental have top speeds of hardly 140-145 km/hr, which I think is not at all enough being 500cc + engines. I would love to see this 750cc. parallel twin with awesome torque (their trademark characterstic ),with a good top speed of at least 180+. Add to that -- a fat rear tyre, rear disc break along with ABS and better design for reduced vibrations, less leakage problems , better clutch cables and other electricals as well and we will have a winner here.
Cheers......
Originally posted by rreneav1987 View PostIf you want top speed, there are other bikes.. TBH, the HDs would be dead if everyone goes only for top speed.. Moreover, doing 145 kmph without any stress is more than a good enough speed.. Atleast in India.. We have highways which can accommodate higher speeds, but then we have stray dogs, cats, buffalo, cows and most dangerous of all Human beings on the roads..
and I am not a RE fan.. I hate them to be more precise for the horrible vibrations and noise.. but a Twin pot is something I would love to have.. Provided, it has good things I want..
Comment
-
Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
Why was i tagged in this post of yours sir?Originally posted by Aswin Bahulayan View PostReally.... 180+???. That too in indian roads..... A part of the population who bought KTM for speed are dead now... RE bikes are made for cruising not for racing... Its a relaxed cruiser......Splendor - 2k to 2006
Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
ZMR - 2010 to Forever
RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
RayZ - 2015 til now
Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now
Delhi to Narkanda
Delhi to Coimbatore
Delhi to Nepal
Comment
-
Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
Why only highlight KTMs?Originally posted by Aswin Bahulayan View PostA part of the population who bought KTM for speed are dead now.
More people have died over the years on Bullets, Splendors, Activas.
Why the bias?Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!
Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0
Comment
-
Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
Well I think that's because of the memes on KTM owners becoming famous for being as good as dead!Originally posted by Divya Sharan View PostWhy only highlight KTMs?
More people have died over the years on Bullets, Splendors, Activas.
Why the bias?
Comment
-
Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
It really is high time RE got their act together. The 750 is a good class to be in for Indian bikers, but I really don't see many tech upgrades on the bike (wrt the photos at least).
> Still a single disc on the front, definitely not ABS either. Not good news for a par-400cc
> Tank looks too small for longer journeys, safely assuming that this will not be very economical.
> The radiator is really really tiny, and doesn't look good enough for a twin 750cc engine....in Mumbai.....in Summer
> Tires still look they're off the older Bullets, not nearly wide enough for a comfortable ride.
> I can still see (what I think is) a Carburetor???!!!! (in the first image). This is a real stinker for me.
RE really needs to up its game for the 21st century if these are true.
This is still something that I would not pay 4+ lakhs for, not when I can go out and buy a Kawasaki for the same/slightly higher price.
----consecutive posts auto-merged-----
The handle/sitting stance of this variant is much like the Continental GT (name ripped off from the Bentley BTW), which is not really cruise friendly unless you're 6'+. This is more of a cafe racer posture - not very cruise friendly. So it better be built for speed..... Wait.... It won't be, so what's the point again?Originally posted by Aswin Bahulayan View PostReally.... 180+???. That too in indian roads..... A part of the population who bought KTM for speed are dead now... RE bikes are made for cruising not for racing... Its a relaxed cruiser......
Comment
-
Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
When someone says the posture on the GT is not at all cruise friendly I cannot simply not answer to this!!! I've done quite a few long 300+km day rides on this & I've done 2500+km trip to from Bombay-to-Jaipur & back on the GT.
Infact I believe this posture is most perfect for cruising along at 80-100kmph on our not-so-smooth highways (particularly pot-holes or roadbumps out of no-where type scenarios). I can't imagine what would be the state of my back & my hips if I"d done the same on a bike with a straight posture transferring all the roadbumps straight up into them.
But anyway I cannot discount that this might be true for me, for the fact that I'm a Road Cyclist & the posture is second nature to me. But even then this particular posture allows for the right weight balance on the 3 contact points "Hands-Feet- & the support on the Saddle". It's like how jockeys ride horses, so the legs act as a secondary suspension & the core provides the anchor holding everything in place.
The posture along with the straight seat allows for so much movement & shifting of weight with different angles of crouch, basically eliminating the strain on just one area of the butt & allowing you to sit on your "sit-bones" & keep shifting if required.
My idea here is not to pitch for the GT just coz I own it, but instead try to bring light that just coz we've been told "Cruiser/Tourer" bikes look a certain way & people sit on them a certain way doesn't mean that's the only way to do it or even that's the only right posture for touring.
Comment
-
Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
[QUOTE=Kaushik Iyer;1276589]When someone says the posture on the GT is not at all cruise friendly I cannot simply not answer to this!!! I've done quite a few long 300+km day rides on this & I've done 2500+km trip to from Bombay-to-Jaipur & back on the GT.
/QUOTE]
Dude,are you saying GT is a cruiser bike or you can cruise on GT? They are two different things. There are many people who have done 300kms ride on splendor and that doesn't mean Splendor is a cruiser!
Each bike is made to match a certain ride/rider profile and in that sense GT is like a Cafe Racer but you have used it for longer rides but that doesn't change the nature of the bike. In fact even a bullet is not an optimal cruiser due to its very straight position but it comes close.
Bicycle riding is totally unlike cruiser riding position so your analogy is wrong.
Comment
-
Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
Originally posted by kaosx View PostIt really is high time RE got their act together. The 750 is a good class to be in for Indian bikers, but I really don't see many tech upgrades on the bike (wrt the photos at least).Triumph Bonneville T100 and Ducati Scrambler, Harley Street 750 and others big players below the Rs.8 lakh price range also have single disc on the front, so what's your point? The current GT has brembo brakes, so will the 750. If there is enough stopping power from a single disc catering to the design parameters of the motorcycle, why do we need dual discs. GT 750 was recently caught testing with ABS too, so that variant is so also likely to be launched.> Still a single disc on the front, definitely not ABS either. Not good news for a par-400cc
The current GT has 13ltr tank and many super-bikes and cruisers also have similar tank capacity, that doesn't take way the spirit of motorcycling right?> Tank looks too small for longer journeys, safely assuming that this will not be very economical.
We can't really say how they perform unless someone takes it for a test-ride right?.> The radiator is really really tiny, and doesn't look good enough for a twin 750cc engine....in Mumbai.....in Summer
Nope. Even the Current GT does not share tires with other Bullets. Only GT has Pirelli tires.> Tires still look they're off the older Bullets, not nearly wide enough for a comfortable ride.
Nope you're wrong again. The Current GT, Thunderbird 500 and Classic 500 all have the same Fuel Injected engines.> I can still see (what I think is) a Carburetor???!!!! (in the first image). This is a real stinker for me.
I honestly feel we must reserve judgement until the product is launched.
If they're gonna launch the GT 750 below Rs. 4 lakhs OTR, I reckon RE is gonna have a new breed of cult followers.
Comment
-
Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]
I did not say GT is a Cruiser, what I said is when the Posture is mentioned as "not good one for cruising", I find that statement wrong & I've tried to explain why a straight posture may not or is not the only good posture for cruising...
Well if you don't seem to think Bicycling analogy works in motorcycling then pls read this thread :- from post #2757 onwards & you'll know what I'm talking about.
Comment



Comment