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  • #106
    Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]

    Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post


    Ok! Speed - Check
    What about vibrations? [emoji3] any idea whether RE has addressed it
    Reliability?
    That's what I'm also wondering. Since it's a higher capacity parallel twin, we can expect considerably lower vibrations compared to the current RE engines, but reliability we have to only wait and watch.

    Cheers!

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    • #107
      Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]

      Originally posted by jazzysaravana View Post
      That's what I'm also wondering. Since it's a higher capacity parallel twin, we can expect considerably lower vibrations compared to the current RE engines, but reliability we have to only wait and watch.

      Cheers!
      A 750 cc twin mill will have vibrations with no doubt.. The HD and Ducati's vibrate to an extent.. I don't think RE will be able to address it as much! Only time will give us an answer
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      • #108
        Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]

        Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
        A 750 cc twin mill will have vibrations with no doubt.. The HD and Ducati's vibrate to an extent.. I don't think RE will be able to address it as much! Only time will give us an answer
        Yes dude because HD's are V-twins and Ducatis are L-twins, hence the inherently vibrating nature, also their power and torque figures are always identical, giving more importance to power.

        Parallel twins when designed with lesser power but with more torque ; with the power tapering off by 6000 or 7000 rpm, we get a very under-stressed engine.

        For example just check the Bonneville lineup. My friends own a T100 and Street Twin, both are so silky smooth up to 160 kmph. They produce 80Nm torque at 3250rpm..At 100 you won't even know whether the engine is on or not, you will just glide on the highways.

        But that's Triumph with their legendary engine tuning.

        On RE 750cc parallel twin we can expect 40-45 bhp and some 60-70 Nm torque..Hence they might also logically be under-stressed.

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        • #109
          Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]

          Originally posted by jazzysaravana View Post
          Yes dude because HD's are V-twins and Ducatis are L-twins, hence the inherently vibrating nature, also their power and torque figures are always identical, giving more importance to power.

          Parallel twins when designed with lesser power but with more torque ; with the power tapering off by 6000 or 7000 rpm, we get a very under-stressed engine.

          For example just check the Bonneville lineup. My friends own a T100 and Street Twin, both are so silky smooth up to 160 kmph. They produce 80Nm torque at 3250rpm..At 100 you won't even know whether the engine is on or not, you will just glide on the highways.

          But that's Triumph with their legendary engine tuning.

          On RE 750cc parallel twin we can expect 40-45 bhp and some 60-70 Nm torque..Hence they might also logically be under-stressed.
          Well, you have the answer! This is RE and what we are talking about aren't RE
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          • #110
            Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]

            Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
            Well, you have the answer! This is RE [emoji3] and what we are talking about aren't RE
            Haha, lolz [emoji23]

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            • #111
              Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]

              The new parallel-twin from Royal Enfield will hit production, it is going to be seen at the EICMA motorcycle show in Milan, Italy in November 2017.

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              • #112
                Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]

                Originally posted by alishahessle View Post
                The new parallel-twin from Royal Enfield will hit production, it is going to be seen at the EICMA motorcycle show in Milan, Italy in November 2017.
                Yup eagerly waiting, hope they don't delay it this time too!

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                • #113
                  Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]

                  From teambhp..

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                  • #114
                    Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]

                    Originally posted by jazzysaravana View Post
                    From teambhp..
                    I don't know, seems too optimistic.. From the spy shots till date we know it is an air cooled/ oil cooled motor, so a 650 from RE with 45 odd hp... And 3 lacs is definitely not gonna happen, I think.. Probably these are just rumours planted to keep interest going...

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                    • #115
                      Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]

                      Originally posted by deejayrox View Post
                      I don't know, seems too optimistic.. From the spy shots till date we know it is an air cooled/ oil cooled motor, so a 650 from RE with 45 odd hp... And 3 lacs is definitely not gonna happen, I think.. Probably these are just rumours planted to keep interest going...
                      Not necessarily. Quick check with the simple oil cooled engine on the RE Himalayan -

                      410cc, makes 25 PS of power and 32 NM of torque... The specific output of this engine converts to 61PS per litre and 78 Nm per litre.

                      With the same specific output, a 650cc oil cooled engine should theoretically make - 39.6 PS and 51 Nm.

                      Come on... Its not rocket science!

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                      • #116
                        Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]

                        VIDEO: Royal Enfield Interceptor 750 test rider crouches down for revenge in a high speed duel | Motoroids
                        https://www.motoroids.com/news/video-royal-enfield-interceptor-750-test-rider-crouches-down-for-revenge-in-a-high-speed-duel/


                        Although its very risky to ride like this on the road but that Royal Enfield test rider is a pro!!...
                        Last edited by tanishq; 10-21-2017, 07:02 PM.

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                        • #117
                          Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]

                          Originally posted by tanishq View Post
                          https://www.motoroids.com/news/video...gh-speed-duel/

                          Although its very risky to ride like this on the road but that Royal Enfield test rider is a pro!!...

                          Scary riding by both the guys-n quite unlike a pro test rider to be drawn in into a game of upmanship with a wanna be bike voyeur riding a smaller machine
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                          • #118
                            Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]

                            Originally posted by Auto View Post
                            Come on... Its not rocket science!
                            Haha... but this is Enfield we are talking about... The Classic was supposed to be in development for 10 years.. and then they launched the C500 with claimed 28hp at crank, and while owners abroad dyno-tested it they found the actual wheel hp to be approx. 18hp. So yeah, Im not too optimistic.. Maybe RE should take a leaf from Harley playbook and start quoting only torque figures..

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                            • #119
                              Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]

                              Originally posted by deejayrox View Post
                              Haha... but this is Enfield we are talking about... The Classic was supposed to be in development for 10 years.. and then they launched the C500 with claimed 28hp at crank, and while owners abroad dyno-tested it they found the actual wheel hp to be approx. 18hp. So yeah, Im not too optimistic.. Maybe RE should take a leaf from Harley playbook and start quoting only torque figures..
                              I really am not aware of the C500 episode. But any automobile would usually have a degrade when we measure the wheel hp - due to transmission losses. But a 30% loss is quite unacceptable. However, the upcoming twin engine and transmission are all new - ground up development from Enfield. Also, this would be the first product for Royal Enfield that is being developed by the UK team.

                              So, I am just trying to not be prejudiced based on previous experiences, as the product and platform are new. I really hope RE understands that many of the potential customers have turned skeptical today, especially after the issues people reported from the Himalayan. If they anticipate this, and really come-up with a high quality twin cylinder bike with appealing styling, then they really can succeed.

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                              • #120
                                Re: Royal Enfield 750cc Parallel Twin [Spied]

                                Ok, Siddhartha Lal has made it official, that we will have something to look forward to at the EICMA from the Royal Enfield stable!!

                                He uploaded the below video on instagram, and also mentioned the EICMA start date - 7th Nov in it.

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