....here is da link....http://www.timesofindia.zigwheels.co...j_20091128-1-1
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ummm,,i was juz goin through timesofindia.com....where in sum section i found,,,bajaj's "baby" pulsar,,,,,,launch date was said as 9th dec,,,,,lets c wat they have for us
....here is da link....http://www.timesofindia.zigwheels.co...j_20091128-1-1
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30K to 55K still is a very good progress, I assume/attribute the progress to the P220 DTS-i, which was launched 6 months back.
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Snappy you corrected meOriginally posted by snapppy View PostI am sure this calculation is not correct. if it was 11k 6 months back,then 80% growth would have meant, 11k+ 8800 (80% of 11k) = 19800 and not 55K which it is at present.
Now, do people plz do your math to come to a figure 6 months back, if its 55k Now

It's about 30.5K (=55/1.8), 6 months back 
!! @ALL : Sorry for misleading
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@sumit: apologies from me and the mod team. Sometimes slips happen bro.
@all: It is often disgraceful how you all behave like kids on small issues, we should look on building each others knowledge, rather than nitpick on trivial things. So take care next time, otherwise we will have to to implement a stringent infraction system which will nowhere be as lenient as it is right now. And no bails.
No one needs to quote this message and reply. Continue with the relevant on topic discussions please.
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I guess we have had enough of maths sessions in this thread.
@Hydbiker - Your calculation looks bang on.
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I am sure this calculation is not correct. if it was 11k 6 months back,then 80% growth would have meant, 11k+ 8800 (80% of 11k) = 19800 and not 55K which it is at present.Originally posted by vipin_sPulsar has already seen an 80% jump in sales over the last 6 months.
What that statement means...
In Oct2009 Bajaj sold ~55K Pulsars, In Nov2009 Bajaj sold 50K, so 6 months back Pulsar sales was just 20% of 55K which means Bajaj was selling 11K Pulsars (i.e. P150/P180/P200/P220) per month ONLY. This suggests Pulsar brand is not as strong as projected in media, one more conclusion I draw is Pulsar sells when refreshed and sales keep going down till the next refresh, this is the reason why Pulsar has 5 versions( Classic + 4 UGs)
Now, do people plz do your math to come to a figure 6 months back, if its 55k Now
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Should be...Originally posted by HydBiker View Postvipin, before the FZ hit the scene all the pulsars put together used to sell about 15 to 20K units a month excluding some higher bursts. TVS used to sell about 7 to 9 K RTR's a month then. not sure how it is now!
So 50K Pulsars in Nov'09 is great number, Bajaj wants to make 90K per month with the launch of P135.
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vipin, before the FZ hit the scene all the pulsars put together used to sell about 15 to 20K units a month excluding some higher bursts. TVS used to sell about 7 to 9 K RTR's a month then. not sure how it is now!
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Nice mathematics there.... are you sure thats the way it was supposed to be..Originally posted by vipin_sPulsar has already seen an 80% jump in sales over the last 6 months.
What that statement means...
In Oct2009 Bajaj sold ~55K Pulsars, In Nov2009 Bajaj sold 50K, so 6 months back Pulsar sales was just 20% of 55K which means Bajaj was selling 11K Pulsars (i.e. P150/P180/P200/P220) per month ONLY. This suggests Pulsar brand is not as strong as projected in media, one more conclusion I draw is Pulsar sells when refreshed and sales keep going down till the next refresh, this is the reason why Pulsar has 5 versions( Classic + 4 UGs)
i thought 80% jump means from 100 to 180....
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Are you sure it is a 4-valve machine? Is there any concrete news?Originally posted by rahuldevnath View PostPulsar 135, is going to be hell lot of experiment for Bajaj. A new block, 4 Valve. If all goes well, in maybe next 2 years, bigger Pulsars will feature 4Valve.
You are very much right.Originally posted by vipin_sOne more conclusion I draw is Pulsar sells when refreshed and sales keep going down till the next refresh, this is the reason why Pulsar has 5 versions( Classic + 4 UGs)
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Pulsar 135, is going to be hell lot of experiment for Bajaj. A new block, 4 Valve. If all goes well, in maybe next 2 years, bigger Pulsars will feature 4Valve.
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SO can we expect the XCD brand to disappear (so fast???) and then have Discover 100, Discover 135, Platina, Platina 125, Pulsar 135, Pulsar 150, Pulsar 180, Pulsar 220???
I want to see a Platina 250 from Bajaj. Simple in style. Low maintenance and good mileage. Should last long
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Source: Neha Rishi / DNA, Thursday, December 3, 2009
Bajaj Auto plans 135cc Pulsar
Mumbai: Bajaj Auto is seeking to do a Discover with another powerful brand. It is launching 135cc Pulsar in the executive segment next week. With this, Bajaj will add to its Pulsar line-up of 150cc, 180cc and 220cc. Industry sources said the bike is likely to be priced at around Rs54,000 (ex-showroom Delhi).
In July this year, Bajaj chose the Discover brand to re-enter the 100cc space, ostensibly to leverage on the brand value, despite having an option of upgrading Platina -- its existing offering in the 100cc space.
VG Ramakrishnan, senior director (automotive/tractors), Frost & Sullivan, said, "Bajaj is cashing on Pulsar's brand value. Pulsar has rocked the market, be it in the 150cc, 180cc or the 220cc space. By encashing the popularity of the brand, Bajaj is undertaking product extension to the executive segment."
Bajaj already has XCD and Discover 135 in the executive segment. With these brands already there, why would Bajaj revisit the segment, which has more conservative customer attitude, with a brand that's associated with performance sports?
Milind Bade, general manager (marketing), Bajaj Auto, said, "A customer does not buy a bike looking at its 'cc', but it's the brand that he purchases. And while Discover and XCD are more of commuter bikes, Pulsar is a sports segment bike. By getting Pulsar in the executive segment of 135cc we are trying to get a small chunk of non-sports customers into the sports segment."
Bade said the executive segment is 65% of the total bike market and the sports segment is about 17%, and Bajaj would want to increase the size of the pie (the sports segment).
"Sports segment will start getting re-rated and will do higher numbers than the executive segment. So our objective is that we will concentrate on two brands -- Discover, which will help us gain market share and Pulsar, which will help in expanding the sports category," Bade said.
Executive is not a big segment and has bikes such as Hero Honda Glamour and Achiever and Super Splendor, HMSI's Stunner CBF, Shine, TVS Flame, apart from Bajaj's Discover 135 which sells around 10,000 units per month and XCD 135 which sells 5,000 units.
With Bajaj expanding its presence in the executive segment, it may lead to cannibalisation of its existing two models (Discover and XCD). However, Bade said it will not happen as a Discover customer looks at economy and mileage, is usually an elderly one, while that of a Pulsar is young who wants aggressive performance.
But according to an analyst with a leading research firm, "Our talks with Bajaj reveal that the company expects the net of cannibalisation to be around 15,000 units. While this bike will give them some incremental volumes, it will not be a game-changer for Bajaj. Pulsar being its premium brand, will add another 15,000 units to the executive segment. The only other thing this brand will do is give better margins than Discover and XCD," He said since XCD 135 sells only about 5,000 units per month, it wouldn't be surprising if Bajaj discontinues just the way XCD 125 was.
Ramakrishnan said, "It is likely that Bajaj will push its Discover brand out of the 135cc segment and since there are high chances of cannabalisation between the two brands, Discover will be pushed down to the 100cc segment and Pulsar will be kept as their top brand for the performance segment."
Pulsar has already seen an 80% jump in sales over the last 6 months. The Q2 2009-10 average sales were 45,000 units per month as compared with 25000 units per month in H2 2008-09 and have reached an overall share of 50% in the sports segment.
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Good riddance.
The rest of you who have been around here for some time, you know better than to post juvenile jokes and take threads off-course.
Back to the topic.
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