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  • #91
    I am really amused to see even a commuter bike is compared to an R-15. Racing performance and dynamics for a commuter?

    Cicatrix, engine is stressed member in CB Twister. Instead of single down tube, Honda employed double tube.
    Last edited by ravi@17bhp; 03-08-2010, 02:19 PM.
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    • #92
      @satyenpoojary: R15 "leagues ahead of any production bike in India!"
      Agreed. Just that, you almost sounded like a 100-110cc motorcycles should not look handsome.

      Originally posted by cicatrix View Post
      ..And also about your line on winning I would humbly suggest you to remember what a great man 'DOM' once said about winning in the holy movie of The Fast and the furious. Dom: Ask any racer, any real racer. It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile; winning's winning.
      No enineer but sound . However when we use the term "win/winning/winner" etc. in this context. I think we need to first focus for whom the bike was design. In this case sell it to the young eco-commuter. To associate the twister as a racing machine is embarrasing even in fantasy.
      So the quote "winning's winning" in this context will be how successful it is able to sell. So for arguement's sake, one can say if twister has been able to sell one single bike more than its rivals, it's a winner. Whether it is actually a winner is yet to be seen.

      On other hand @ravi made the following comments.
      Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
      Cicatrix, engine is stressed member in CB Twister. Instead of single down tube, Honda employed double tube.
      Could you please respond to it. Have not seen the twister myself. So as a person interested in bikes, am just interested to have some clarity here.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
        No, no, nothign about the power and all.... I have ridden the star city/jive and other punny bikes too, but the CB really put me off! I dont know why, may be it was all that masculine jazzy looks with a soda can sized cylinder!

        The first thing that hit my head was that I guess it was more like a tight slap to the Indian bike market with sheer Honda arrogance saying that this is what you get... just looks and styling!
        Ofcourse later I liked the value that they are offering to the commuting segment! even considered buying it for my girl, but its too pricey!
        Originally posted by kaynmantis View Post
        Same can be said of the R15 . You know with all the jazz of R1 with those tinny winny tyres and engine. Not attacking you personally, just finding humour in our biking scenario in general .
        Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
        I do agree on the jazz of the R1 bit, but I would sitll not call it like that because of the brilliant bike it is in terms of the chassis, the FI, the spot on breaking and the entire package.
        Ofcourse it may be a gimmick for Yamaha, but it is yet leagues ahead of any production bike in India! Horendous-Humorous state of our biking industry!
        Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
        I am really amused to see even a commuter bike is compared to an R-15. Racing performance and dynamics for a commuter?

        Cicatrix, engine is stressed member in CB Twister. Instead of single down tube, Honda employed double tube.
        Originally posted by kaynmantis View Post
        @satyenpoojary: R15 "leagues ahead of any production bike in India!"
        Agreed. Just that, you almost sounded like a 100-110cc motorcycles should not look handsome.



        No enineer but sound . However when we use the term "win/winning/winner" etc. in this context. I think we need to first focus for whom the bike was design. In this case sell it to the young eco-commuter. To associate the twister as a racing machine is embarrasing even in fantasy.
        So the quote "winning's winning" in this context will be how successful it is able to sell. So for arguement's sake, one can say if twister has been able to sell one single bike more than its rivals, it's a winner. Whether it is actually a winner is yet to be seen.

        On other hand @ravi made the following comments.

        Could you please respond to it. Have not seen the twister myself. So as a person interested in bikes, am just interested to have some clarity here.
        I guess just a small reading refresh is required.

        No one compared the R15 with Twister as bikes, the comparison was perhaps the context of the styling etc and the humourous state of our two wheeler market.

        @Kay: agreed on the 'almost' part... and read what I had written one mor time...and I bet you will agree that it wasnt even 'almost'

        PS: the context in which "Winning" was used is also misquoted....

        PPS:
        "Read what people write, not what you want to read... "
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        Last edited by satyenpoojary; 03-08-2010, 02:50 PM.
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        • #94
          Here are the quotes from ACI on handling of CB Twister. When I personally checked the CB Twister, I was surprized to see the two arms down, but thank god I found the engine to be stressed member upon further inspection. My pics two pages back will show the engine as stressed member.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
            I do agree on the jazz of the R1 bit, but I would sitll not call it like that because of the brilliant bike it is in terms of the chassis, the FI, the spot on breaking and the entire package.
            Ofcourse it may be a gimmick for Yamaha, but it is yet leagues ahead of any production bike in India! Horendous-Humorous state of our biking industry!
            What breaking, Satyen!!

            And yeah i do agree to the last line mentioned by you.Even after the R15 launch we are yet to see a breakthrough product from any of the manufacturers present in India.And about the CB Twister it seems lil bit pricey but then it has the novelty factor and the brand name "Honda" going in for it.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
              What breaking, Satyen!!

              And yeah i do agree to the last line mentioned by you.Even after the R15 launch we are yet to see a breakthrough product from any of the manufacturers present in India.And about the CB Twister it seems lil bit pricey but then it has the novelty factor and the brand name "Honda" going in for it.
              Super CommuTOURer� - Talk less, Ride more

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              #Give thy opinion, write em, dont throw em
              #Everyone errs, accept it, defending/cribbing about it only makes it worse
              #Dont defend a manufacturer as if you work for them
              #Write. Think. If relevant hit submit. If not hit yourself
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              • #97
                CB Twister has better features, looks, and performance than any other 100 cc commuter bike. 0-60 fig of 7 sec is better than most of the 125cc, except stunner, gladiator and discover. The product is not attractive just because it is Honda.

                The higher price is for the top varient with disc brake. There are other varients availabe at competitive price.

                And whatever we talk, Honda will never reduce the premium price they charge on thier products. Ultimately, it is for the customers to decide whether to pay the preimum or not. It is a good bike or not, will be decided by the customer and it represents ultimately in sales.

                Better bike does not mean that it should have all the gadgets and technology. Better bike means an overall package, including price, that makes prospective buyer feel it is good.
                Last edited by ravi@17bhp; 03-08-2010, 03:19 PM.
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                • #98
                  Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                  And whatever we talk, Honda will never reduce the premium price they charge on thier products. Ultimately, it is for the customers to decide whether to pay the preimum or not. It is a good bike or not, will be decided by the customer and it represents ultimately in sales.
                  There is no doubt that the bike will sell and it will outshine even it's own siblings in terms of sales.And it just wont see the numbers achieved by the 100cc slopers from HH, though!!

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                    There is no doubt that the bike will sell and it will outshine even it's own siblings in terms of sales.And it just wont see the numbers achieved by the 100cc slopers from HH, though!!
                    +1. CB Twister is not for every commuter. It is for a stylish commuter. The stylish grab rail is not functional and it deters many customers. Moreover, I have not seen any saree guard on CB Twister, and if I commute with my wife or mother, I would never prefer a CB Twister.
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                    • #100
                      I never said that the bike is not better,..... my reference was to a post made about sales being a true representation of the term "better"


                      - The stressed chassis is correct check this
                      Last edited by satyenpoojary; 03-08-2010, 03:40 PM. Reason: Doesnt make any sense!
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                      #Give thy opinion, write em, dont throw em
                      #Everyone errs, accept it, defending/cribbing about it only makes it worse
                      #Dont defend a manufacturer as if you work for them
                      #Write. Think. If relevant hit submit. If not hit yourself
                      #Be kind in your choice of words, you never know who would make you gulp em
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                      • #101
                        Pardon my ignorance folks, but is a 100cc bike capable of reaching 100kmph? AFAIK Splendor/Passion does a true 80kmph at best!
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                        • #102
                          Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                          +1. CB Twister is not for every commuter. It is for a stylish commuter. The stylish grab rail is not functional and it deters many customers. Moreover, I have not seen any saree guard on CB Twister, and if I commute with my wife or mother, I would never prefer a CB Twister.
                          No saree guard ? isnt it a mandatory requirement ? even the Fastest Indian has it .

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                          • #103
                            Yes Puneet, the bikes I have seen so far, not a single Twister has saree guard. Of couse, never saw one on the road yet. See here.

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                            Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
                            Pardon my ignorance folks, but is a 100cc bike capable of reaching 100kmph? AFAIK Splendor/Passion does a true 80kmph at best!
                            The top speed of twister is 93 kmph true. I remember the 100 cc mill from Hero Honda tops out at 85 kmph true.

                            Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                            I never said that the bike is not better,..... my reference was to a post made about sales being a true representation of the term "better"
                            Yes Satyen. My post is not particularly aimed at you; it is in reply for an overall conversaion. But, I agree with you that P220 FI is a better product than P220 DTS-i.
                            Last edited by ravi@17bhp; 03-08-2010, 03:58 PM.
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                            • #104
                              Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
                              Pardon my ignorance folks, but is a 100cc bike capable of reaching 100kmph? AFAIK Splendor/Passion does a true 80kmph at best!
                              yes, some commuter bikes do hit 100 (atleast on the speedo), I recently hit 100 on a 110cc star city, though it took me loonng time to see that speed but still that magical figure was touched (speedo read).
                              Considering even this comes with a 110cc engine and better horsepower ratings, My guess is it'll do 100 too..

                              EDIT : I've hit 100 on my friends platina too, Dunno about the splendor though.. I've touched max of 85 on a splendour, and oh boy at that speed it feels like i'm holding on to a branch of tree in middle of a storm..
                              Last edited by road_ripper; 03-08-2010, 04:18 PM.
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                              • #105
                                As I said, the 100 kmph magic mark is only speedo indicated. there will be speedo error of around 7-12%.

                                Originally posted by road_ripper View Post
                                EDIT : I've hit 100 on my friends platina too, Dunno about the splendor though.. I've touched max of 85 on a splendour, and oh boy at that speed it feels like i'm holding on to a branch of tree in middle of a storm..
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