The 2010 Bike Launch Speculation Thread

[ken cool]

I've read an internet article a week ago regarding the launch of Yamaha R125 in India. It said that the bike is more successful in US/European Countries and if the bike is launched in India, it will cost approx. 3.75 lakhs for sure! Now, is that a fair deal?

It costs 4000USD or thereabouts. With the current import duty structure... do your math! Fair enough!

We all are desperate for higher capacity bikes now especially after Ninja's launch, Yamaha should not put wrong foot forward by adding another clone of R-15 on our roads.

They are similar. But the R-125 will run rings around the R-15!

[samschenker]

They are similar. But the R-125 will run rings around the R-15!

Ken, what makes the R125 superior to the R15? is it the chassis or the engine?

[chicane1879]

They are similar. But the R-125 will run rings around the R-15!

I dont think so. R125 has a maximum power output of about 15PS and apart from running at a higher compression ratio there is not much difference in the engine architecture which would make it faster as it's 2PS short which is a lot.Both the bikes weigh similarly at ~125kgs, though!!

[rennycornelius]

what makes the R125 superior to the R15? is it the chassis or the engine?

R125 has, (but this doesnt makes it superior)

Aggressive R-series styling
Aluminium swinging arm
Large diameter disc brakes

It puts out 15 ps with 1.25 kgm of torque, but it looks more racy.

[sheelpriye]

17PS / 8,500rpm
Maximum torque 15 N.m / 7,500rpm
Starting system Electric Start
Lubrication wet sump
Engine oil capacity 1.0120kg / 131kg



Yamaha R125(picked from Yamaha UK )


Engine -
Engine type: Liquid-cooled, 4-stroke, single cylinder, 4-valve, SOHC
Displacement: 124.66 cc
Bore x stroke: 52.0 x 58.6 mm
Compression ratio: 11.2 : 1
Maximum power: 11.0 kW (15 PS) @ 9,000 rpm
Maximum torque: 12.24 Nm (1.25 kg-m) @ 8,000 rpm
Lubrication system: Wet sump
Carburettor: Fuel injection
Clutch type: Wet, multiple-disc coil spring
Ignition system: TCI
Starter system: Electric
Transmission system: Constant mesh, 6-speed
Final transmission: Chain
Fuel tank capacity: 13.8 L
Oil tank capacity: 1.15 L138 kg

I think cycle parts(Ohlins to Showa kinds) are reduced a lot to lessen the price

[frank_dude_007]

Well lets not get there for now!

Well if you take a carefull look at my post i have highlighted 30 bhp and the price i.e. 1,20,000 Rs .I highly doubt that this is possible because ninja which produces around 33bhp retails for much more even in countries where it is manufactured . I am not saying all of it is not true .
This is just what I think , i would be more than happy if TVS proves me wrong .

[darkknight]

Noone appreciating the upcoming pulsar 250

I think this will be the ninja killer for sure

[ken cool]

From the specs it isn't very evident, why an R15 cannot stay or cannot go ahead of R125
Please enlighten

Enlightenment will come the moment you ride the R125. Specs on paper is something, riding the two bikes on the streets is totally another. Believe me, once you ride the R125, you will throw the specs sheet outta the 15th floor window!

[HydBiker]

BTW guys, the R125 is not coming to India. This is stated numerous times.

BTW, the R125 is more aggressive, more track focused and has much more equipment than the R15. No point discussing so much about it. It is much more peaky engine and people here are already crying for more low end power from the R15.

Noone appreciating the upcoming pulsar 250

I think this will be the ninja killer for sure

Well, we left that to the kids
But then, if the specs stated for P250 are true then it sure is.

[abhichotu.abhi]

Enlightenment will come the moment you ride the R125. Specs on paper is something, riding the two bikes on the streets is totally another. Believe me, once you ride the R125, you will throw the specs sheet outta the 15th floor window!

True! Riding is a different phenomena.

But, If YAMAHA launches it in INDIA with a price tag of anything between 2.5-3.5L(as someone said on this forum) Then, How would one digest buying a PUNY 125 over a NINJA 250 twin cylinder in 3L.

[ken cool]

True! Riding is a different phenomena.

But, If YAMAHA launches it in INDIA with a price tag of anything between 2.5-3.5L(as someone said on this forum) Then, How would one digest buying a PUNY 125 over a NINJA 250 twin cylinder in 3L.

It would not make sense. Hence I reckon it would not come. But I wonder why all the TV channels and other news sources are going on and on about the arrival of the R125! Just to fill up air space in between ads I guess.

[jigar2speed]

Noone appreciating the upcoming pulsar 250

I think this will be the ninja killer for sure

Kids don't challenge father... Getting my drift ?

Pricing wise it would be a dream come true for those who would like to taste the performance of something near to baby Ninja.

[HydBiker]

But, If YAMAHA launches it in INDIA with a price tag of anything between 2.5-3.5L(as someone said on this forum) Then, How would one digest buying a PUNY 125 over a NINJA 250 twin cylinder in 3L.

The R125 might be just 125 cc but the looks & Size is by no means puny. Beside an R6 it looks almost there. With the Ninja 250 it would match up in looks & even the price

Ninja 250 is a no frills bike with power. R125 is max out power at half the CC (though less than half the ninja's power, for a 125cc it is a lot of power) with lots of goodies. Well, why am I discussing the R125 again!

[rennycornelius]

The R125 might be just 125 cc but the looks & Size is by no means puny. Beside an R6 it looks almost there. With the Ninja 250 it would match up in looks & even the price

Ninja 250 is a no frills bike with power. R125 is max out power at half the CC (though less than half the ninja's power, for a 125cc it is a lot of power) with lots of goodies. Well, why am I discussing the R125 again!

But still for this much price for a 125cc engine specially in INDIAN market, YAMAHA wont risk it.

[HydBiker]

But still for this much price for a 125cc engine specially in INDIAN market, YAMAHA wont risk it.

That's why they made the R15 for India.

Come on guys, where is the speculation???