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  • Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

    Originally posted by rajeshbhuin View Post
    Hello people. I suspect my gixxer's engine becomes abnormally hot. Can anyone tell me what is the maximum temperature that is normal? Also if i want to measure engine temperature what would be the ideal place to put temperature sensor. Iam planning to externally put a temperature sensor with an arduino.
    Hey man. Experienced the same. my guess is that, the engine is warming up as it has not been exploited. yesterday i revved it hard for 5 mins on an open road say about 87km/hr. Now the pick up has improved significantly. Probably the engine will now not heat that much.

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    Why do they always rev their engines?

    WHY DO THEY ALWAYS REV THEIR ENGINES?

    Motorcycle engines are much different from car engines. Yes, some Riders want to intimidate you with the sound of their motorcycle. But here are a few things you might find interesting.
    1. A new engine requires it.

    2. An old or repaired engine might also require it.

    3. Sometimes it's a safety technique.





    1. A new engine requires it.

    When people go out and buy a brand new motorcycle the first thing they are told about is the "Engine Break-In Period". This is from the first time the motorcycle is turned on to about 1,500 miles. New engine parts rub together with some friction but after "breaking-in" the engine pollutes less, gets better gas mileage and the life of the engine is extended. There are many steps involved but the first step is "avoid a constant engine speed."
    "Avoiding a constant engine speed" means "rev the engine". You will likely see this at a stop light and believe the rider is doing it to be "cool". Well, sometimes that is the case, but it is also very likely the Rider is doing what is necessary to make sure his or her engine works properly for the rest of it's life. When stopped at a stop light the engine idles, which is a constant engine speed. Since a motorcycle in the break-in period should avoid a constant engine speed, the Rider revs the engine. What it boils down to is that if you do not "break-in" your engine you will get bad mileage or even ruin it.

    2. A repaired engine might also require it.
    It is much easier and cheaper to remove and repair a motorcycle engine than a car engine. Many Riders do it themselves. A motorcycle with a damaged engine is rarely thrown out. Riders will take an engine apart, put new parts in and put it back together, or have someone else do it. When they do it starts a brand-new break-in period. In this case the bike might be old but the engine insides are new. This happens a lot more then you would think.
    Custom choppers, ancient classics and newer bikes that were broken in wrong could all be in a break-in period due to a recent engine repair. Additionally, a bike that has been stored all winter might have a problem with the carburetor that will make the engine quit if not revved. Carburetors can be very tricky can have a problems running in certain weather conditions with revving the engine.

    3. Sometimes it's a safety technique.
    Downshifting is integral to safe riding of a motorcycle. A safe Rider NEVER simply shifts to neutral and coasts to a stop. Riders know that when they are slowing to a stop sign or moving through certain areas they are more vulnerable to being hit from behind or from cars pulling out from the side. They might need to accelerate to avoid a collision and if they are in the wrong gear they might end up stalling instead of getting out of harm's way. So a Rider needs to ensure that he or she is in the right gear while slowing. Since most bikes don't have an automatic transmission (a few do and they are not that expensive), they have to do it themselves. This means - you guessed it - revving the engine while selecting the lower gear and repeating through all of the gears until stopped. This is called downshifting and engine braking.

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    • Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

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        Hey guys need some help... The color of my engine oil is became a dark black... I have changed the engine oil on 1st service I. E. On 750km now bike is clock in on 2345km the 2nd service is pending on 3500 km. Attached some of the snaps of engine oil.. Please let me the color is OK or should I change the oil before doing my 2nd service... Also one thing I noticed that bike was not going beyond 103 km before completion of my 1st service the bike easily goes up to 119km but now it doesn't I observed this on my this weekend Lavasa Ride

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        • Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

          Engine oil colour changes as it gets oxidised when the engine heats up. There's no need to worry about that.

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          • Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

            Originally posted by trybeingarun View Post
            Engine oil colour changes as it gets oxidised when the engine heats up. There's no need to worry about that.
            So shall I didn't need to change it?? Also what will be issue with top speed I have checked there is nothing block the air filter
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            • Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

              Originally posted by spb View Post
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              • Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

                Originally posted by sshinde555 View Post
                So shall I didn't need to change it?? Also what will be issue with top speed I have checked there is nothing block the air filter
                It shouldn't adversely affect anything. Change oil based on the service interval specified in the booklet and you should be fine.

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                • Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

                  Originally posted by Dienver View Post
                  Please share the workflow you implement with the temperature sensor here, if you don't mind. I'd love to have one installed on my bike too. Heck, this sounds like an awesome DIY project, and if you get to work on it, do let me know - I'd love to watch it unfold and help in any way I can.

                  I just use my fingertips to gauge how hot the engine is - works pretty well, but it isn't accurate by any means.

                  About the maximum temperature that is normal, might I suggest installing the sensor on a few engines under varying test conditions - various running durations, different ambient temperatures, long breezy highway runs, intense clogged traffic, serious uphill and downhill rides, etc. I would suggest using multiple sensors on the same bike at different places. We could even use the sensor on bikes running different oils and at different altitudes.

                  The data you have available by the end of the vast array of tests should give you a good idea on what the optimal running temperature is, and what temperature one would consider harmful to the engine.
                  Thanks bro for your reply. I will definitely share ny work flow if I succeed. I have everything except the temperature sensor. I will order one soon. But before that I need to know to maximum temperature range of our bike engine . Because I have to choose the sensor accordingly. Can you please help me with that. Thanks again bro.

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                  • Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

                    Originally posted by shailendra.k View Post
                    Hey man. Experienced the same. my guess is that, the engine is warming up as it has not been exploited. yesterday i revved it hard for 5 mins on an open road say about 87km/hr. Now the pick up has improved significantly. Probably the engine will now not heat that much.

                    ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

                    Why do they always rev their engines?

                    WHY DO THEY ALWAYS REV THEIR ENGINES?

                    Motorcycle engines are much different from car engines. Yes, some Riders want to intimidate you with the sound of their motorcycle. But here are a few things you might find interesting.
                    1. A new engine requires it.

                    2. An old or repaired engine might also require it.

                    3. Sometimes it's a safety technique.





                    1. A new engine requires it.

                    When people go out and buy a brand new motorcycle the first thing they are told about is the "Engine Break-In Period". This is from the first time the motorcycle is turned on to about 1,500 miles. New engine parts rub together with some friction but after "breaking-in" the engine pollutes less, gets better gas mileage and the life of the engine is extended. There are many steps involved but the first step is "avoid a constant engine speed."
                    "Avoiding a constant engine speed" means "rev the engine". You will likely see this at a stop light and believe the rider is doing it to be "cool". Well, sometimes that is the case, but it is also very likely the Rider is doing what is necessary to make sure his or her engine works properly for the rest of it's life. When stopped at a stop light the engine idles, which is a constant engine speed. Since a motorcycle in the break-in period should avoid a constant engine speed, the Rider revs the engine. What it boils down to is that if you do not "break-in" your engine you will get bad mileage or even ruin it.

                    2. A repaired engine might also require it.
                    It is much easier and cheaper to remove and repair a motorcycle engine than a car engine. Many Riders do it themselves. A motorcycle with a damaged engine is rarely thrown out. Riders will take an engine apart, put new parts in and put it back together, or have someone else do it. When they do it starts a brand-new break-in period. In this case the bike might be old but the engine insides are new. This happens a lot more then you would think.
                    Custom choppers, ancient classics and newer bikes that were broken in wrong could all be in a break-in period due to a recent engine repair. Additionally, a bike that has been stored all winter might have a problem with the carburetor that will make the engine quit if not revved. Carburetors can be very tricky can have a problems running in certain weather conditions with revving the engine.

                    3. Sometimes it's a safety technique.
                    Downshifting is integral to safe riding of a motorcycle. A safe Rider NEVER simply shifts to neutral and coasts to a stop. Riders know that when they are slowing to a stop sign or moving through certain areas they are more vulnerable to being hit from behind or from cars pulling out from the side. They might need to accelerate to avoid a collision and if they are in the wrong gear they might end up stalling instead of getting out of harm's way. So a Rider needs to ensure that he or she is in the right gear while slowing. Since most bikes don't have an automatic transmission (a few do and they are not that expensive), they have to do it themselves. This means - you guessed it - revving the engine while selecting the lower gear and repeating through all of the gears until stopped. This is called downshifting and engine braking.

                    Hey bro thanks for the reply. My bike is only 290 km old and haven't done the first service yet. So its a pretty new engine. I don't know may be it will not become so hot as I do more kms. I sometimes rev it too. Have taken it to 80 once. But its new engine so I am a little afraid. Is the temperature anything to be concerned about?

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                    • Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

                      Hey guys ! Great going on this forum.. I am going to book my SF next week ! I just need to know about the performance of the gearbox, are there any false neutrals or anything like that ! I really love the black color, its drop dead gorgeous :-) But everyone seems to like the blue color ! Will the black color fade with time ? If I use my Amway silicon glaze on the black color, it will look amazing ! I need your suggestions guys ! Thanks in advance !

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                      • Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

                        Originally posted by ramanathanc View Post
                        Hey guys ! Great going on this forum.. I am going to book my SF next week ! I just need to know about the performance of the gearbox, are there any false neutrals or anything like that ! I really love the black color, its drop dead gorgeous :-) But everyone seems to like the blue color ! Will the black color fade with time ? If I use my Amway silicon glaze on the black color, it will look amazing ! I need your suggestions guys ! Thanks in advance !
                        Regarding the gearbox initially it was a bit stiff and rarely false neutrals. But after around 300 kms the stiffness has come down. Shifting is a lot smoother now and no false neutrals recently.
                        I own a black gixxer sf myself. The blue one looks bigger apparently and sportier. The black looks sleeker. The black has always been my color and after looking both of them in the showroom i have choosen the black. Here is my ride Click image for larger version

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                          Hello Rajesh ! Personally I prefer black as well but I will take a final call after seeing both the colors in person at the showroom !

                          Thanks for your suggestion Rajesh :-)

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                          • Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

                            Originally posted by ramanathanc View Post
                            Hello Rajesh ! Personally I prefer black as well but I will take a final call after seeing both the colors in person at the showroom !

                            Thanks for your suggestion Rajesh :-)
                            both are basically same.. only the sticker job makes visual appearances different. I personally preferred the blue one as it gives more sporty look. Also I came across the post on FB page... with aftermarket sticker job on the black model. I think this looks better than the stock one..

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                            • Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

                              Hi all,

                              I bought my Gixxer SF a couple of months back. A month back I crashed the bike and damaged the right side of the fairing and number plate. The Service center at Kandivali(Mumbai) have been really hopeless with helping me. I got only the fairing fixed but the Moto GP sticker is apparently unavailable with them. I had to get the number plate fixed myself from outside as the bracket on which the plate is mounted wasn't available with the service center. Its been a month since the fairing has been replaced, but the sticker is still missing which is really upsetting me. Can anyone from Mumbai help me with how to approach this? Thanks for reading.

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                              • Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

                                Shell ultra FS 10w40 on SF
                                I have decided to switch to shell ultra two weeks ago as I was already using AX7 and want to change due to my upcoming long trip.
                                In porur shell if you buy Ultra, you get 5% off on petrol. Ultra is costly about rs860. I got it changed in shell bunk itself and got my tank filled. They also gave a Pepsi 600ml free as i got petrol for more than rs500.
                                After driving for 5 minutes, I can feel a subtle change in the tone of the engine.
                                Within the same week I had completed 100km, and the gearshifts has become much smoother. It's just like the day I got my bike, but the oil has to heat up sufficiently for this to happen. I will tell the SVC about hard gearshifts in my next service.
                                I just came back from a 500km+ ride and the bike was cruising at 100. I usually cruise at 85-90 before the oil change and now I feel confident enough to push it a little further.
                                P.S - this is what I have experienced after using Shell ultra after 4200km on odo. You may or may not have the same experience with this oil.

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