well... i've got no hidden agenda to prove u wrong.
it's just that based on the facts presented by both sides, something seemed fishy.

having an xBHP ID doesn't add any extra credibility to ur posts.

creating an xBHP ID and posting a thread about it is wat I prolly would have done too...
if this happened to me. definitely an effective way to spread the news.

but i will say... if the bike does belong to ur friend, i hope everything works out for him.

this thread prolly won't help you find the bike.
but it will increase the chances of the buyer not being able to sell it.


sure. how about the FIR number of the complaint that ur friend filed.

in all your deliberation you haven't mentioned...
is ur friend willing to return the money that's changed hands and take the bike back?

okay i spend my whole day reading this thread from the begining to the end and come to know that hullabaloo is a funny word eh xionite nothing more than that can anyone explain what the hell going on here but i enjoyed reading this thread more than watching the expendables

Exactly my question too

this thread is really hilarious if read form the start in a single day..
but read it as it happens and it turns into a awesome bike caught in a tragic happening of events .. i feel sorry for the bike and the real owner

true i dont know who is at fault in this case but for sure it is not the bike and unfortunately the beauty is in trouble of dri etc etc

i read this complete thread today itself from page 1. . . and i am having headache now ...
seriously this is one of the most confusing thread up here ....

We need Sherlock Holmes on this case now! But funny and nice twists to the tale... Great script for a short film

What a story!!

One thing I've understood! never come to conclusions by hearing one side of the story!

Second: Why all this crap? ask him to return the bike and return the money he has given! is it okey?

Third: I think as the bike has been traced which is the original post is for! do we need to know how these two fellas come to a "common ground" as being mentioned by BKing!

Any ways this is the best (interesting?? (sic)) thread I have ever read!

-Srik

this has the script as if ekta kapoor is the producer.

CID 2 the rescue.

We must call the CID now or what. I think ACP Pradyuman along with Senior Inspector Daya & Senior Inspector Abhijeet surely handle this case.
If Inspector Fredrick can stay out to trouble.

Hey rockrz, please understand that at any point of time, I never felt offended by anyone's else's post. I fact, I never even mentioned being offended or even hurt. My only request to fellow xbhp members was that please dont arrive at hasty decisions. Thats all.

now about your queries, the classic "he said" "you said'. Think about it yourself man, in fact, I made a clear explanation of it all in my previous post. In a thief's perspective, he wants to make money. To him, its not about the bike, or the passion for riding. When there are people with interests, esp a big craze, others are there to exploit from that situation.

In business terminologies, a high demand creates supply. This is best explained with an example. During diwali times, if you went shopping for crackers, outside the big crackers shop, in the middle of heavy rush, there will also be little kids, and random people holding just two or three bags of random crackers and try to sell it to you for a fairly lower price. These are stolen goods. When crackers come in shipments from the lorry to the shop, while transiting them to godowns, a few boxes are thrown to the side for other to pick up, sell and make quick money.

Those people in a rush, during the heavy diwali period, and run out of money but some little family kids pester for a few more, parents just try to buy the cheap crackers just so they can make the kids shut up and also that the on street crackers are sold for cheap.

This is the same thing that is happening with sbk's here. Guys, i can't emphasize this enough, so please read through my old posts in the same topic. I will explain it again.

The objective of bringing this topic up is to make prospective sbk buyers aware, especially the teen aged to early 20's guyz. At this age, the want for a superbike mesmerizes people. They are not aware of the problems, consequences, or the shady business that happens in this field.

The worst thing is that rich kids, have a lot of money, and they don't even let their parents know the legit nature of the bike. And neither do the parents. IN these young guy's minds, the mere look of a sbk in front of them, shuts down all the logical analysis.

They have to think here. While a legit bikes costs in the excess of 10 lakhs, how in the world can they get one for 4 to 5 lakhs? But tell me guyz, when all of us are so crazed out on having a dream sbk, we only think of getting one somehow, for a good small price.

Now rockrz, i will answer your question. Understand that for a normal person, who is honest, its really easy to lead a life. he/she doesn't have to be that smart to make an honest living. But you have to be very smart to be a thief. You are always calculating, making plans, an exit strategy. This thief played everything very well. What he did not expect was xbhp intervention. IN future, he will take this into account to. The mistake the thieve's made, is underestimating and exploiting my friend harish's innocence.

So obviously, the thief paid 1.1 L in cash, and even if he gets 4 lakhs for bike, he makes a quick 3 lakhs profit, just by giving it to another person, because there is no paper or any form of trace. and mind you rockrz, 3 lakhs for a week of clever planning and strategy is one hell of a good money.

Now that the bike is on xbhp and team bhp all over india, it has become very hard for the guy to sell the bike. And NOW, he is clearly aware that most people are alerted. and ofcourse my friend, he will not want to sell the bike.

Think about it rockrz, put yourself in the thief's place. he knows that he is cornered, his antics of throwing the DRI stunt didnt' work, the fake lawyer notice he sent didnt work, and now, he has to play the "honest" guy who got cheated. For all you know, what if he thinks that you are one of my frinds, posing to ask the bike for sale, just so that you can nab him, with police help?

so why would he sell the bike. definitely, he is going to say he doesn't want to, and just keep the bike. he can still pose as an innocent buyer who got cheated. His only way out now, even if police catches him, is to say that he was an innocent buyer who got fooled and that he would like his money back at the least.





Yes, skyknight19. Thanks for bringing this up, I wanted to say bring this up myself. Just that there have been many questions, and I am trying to answer one at a time. let me explain in detail.

A lot of time has passed, by the time we realized that the bike was actually stolen. So while many xbhp members asked such questions, i would call harish and ask him the details. one by one. what dd, what bank, what cheque? etc etc. only later when i looked at the cheques myself, in hand, i realized it was fake.

When my friend harish received a bank statement that the cheque bounced. It was a karnataka bank cheque. The DD given was also a karnataka bank DD. Very cleverly the thieves gave the amount of 1.1 L, ie two 49,000 and one 12,000.

Why? because, an amount of 50,000 or above (for deposit, withdrwal or DD) will need to have your PAN card disclosed.

So with respect to the cheques for the remaining amount, I asked my friend for the cheques to look at them because my friend said that the bank only stated that the cheque bounced. Only when i looked at the cheque did I realize that it was fake. you know rest of the story. it had a 4 digit account number, had a business name on it called "american techno", etc etc.

thank you whiteunicorn! I know that you clearly assessed my my posts. And coming to answering your two questions:
If they too are on public forums ..why arent they bothered enough to put their side too in xbhp?

good question. my first guess (again, just a guess) is that they did't know about xbhp in the first place. it is xbhp that is giving them a nightmare. xbhp was the reason that they were compelled to send that stupid, fake, laughable lawyer notice that clearly said that we remove the picture posted on the website. And why are they not in the public forum? well, in a public forum, people ask questions, and a lot of question.

just look at the post that skynight posted above. People will scrutinize you, ask the legit nature of the questions. From a thieve's perspective, he doesn't like such interrogation. A thief is only concerned about misdirection. And that is exactly what he did. he created a misdirection and kept quiet.

Apprantly, the thief did try to sell the bike, but then put up a show of not wanting to sell it. now when others try to call him, his phone is switched off!

now to your next question,

As they are ranting that the bike has been ceased by DRI.. why there isn't any cop dealing with this hight priority task?

Clearly the DRI was a stunt thing they tried to pull. Again, as i said many young kids with money, they want to sell bikes and get new bikes. So clearly these thieves would have played similar stunts of paying just a basic one lakh amount and when asked for the rest, they would have said its seized by the DRI.

These rich kids, once they hear DRI they get scared and don't even tell their parents. they just want to keep quite. so its like laddu for these thieves exploiting the unaware, innocent, teenaged buyers/sellers. But badly for the thieves, that stunt didn't work with my friend harish! he may be an innocent guy who got fooled. But a brave and honest guy. First thing, he told his dad about it. And his second initiative was to highlight this matter, so that nobody else gets fooled in a similar method.

Only if the thieves reported to the DRI will a cop be assigned to this case. and hat's what i said previously. They exactly know my friend harish's apartment, address and phone number...so why hasn't the DRI or cops called him to this date? The theieves only advantage, as you said, is that the bike is not a clear paper one.

I am also CERTAIN that they are reading this, word by word by word, and by all means, let them! I want them to.


Dear xionite buddy, please trust me, I know that you didn't try to prove me wrong. your explanations are legit, and I respect that! neither am I hurt. My only request was that let us all not arrive at quick conclusions, thats all buddy.

@xionite, parth and Srik: the thieves have been contacting my friend. they want to negotiate and would like their money back.

My friend gave them two options: either give the bike back and take your 1.1 L advance. or give the remaining bike back and we will again post in public forums that the deal has been settled.

My friend harish only wants the bike back, as he's a true passionate biker. He is disgusted all this happned to his bike and feels that it is equivalent to his kid being kidnapped. He loved his bike and is all the more happy to get his bike back.

And also, he doesn't want to be a hero by trying to find the people. he is willing to drop all activities he has taken and he even doesn't care about the 1.1 L advance money, he is happy to give it back. once he gets the bike, he wants to forget all this episode.

Worst come to worse, he realizes that the thieves may keep the bike in hiding, for a year or so, and re paint it, and re sell it to some other innocent soul. but as harish and i agreed, this will make it for any thieves in the future extremely difficult to nab or steal and sbk. in this statement, I think my friend harish has won.

Think of all the matters that xbhp members has learnt. words will spread. you will talk to your friends and them to their friends. many people will be reminded of this story, and people will want to walk away from a gray market bike. That's all we intended at the very least.

Thanks a lot guyz!!! whether we get this bike back or not, this topic will be open, and as you all know, I have learnt so much about this dirty business! any questions relating to buying a proper, clean paper bike, write to me.

some of the questions you ask to a seller, you will know whether it is clean or not. Cheers gentlemen!

Hmmmm... now that makes sense, its all quite clear now. Anyway there has to be someway you can trace the bugger and extract him out. U do have his cell no., infact there is a no. posted on the forum too, any leads from that no.?? Info like name, address etc.?? Whatever happened to the police??. I mean this a theft as well as "fake instrument" case and the guy is not underground, i mean criminals have been nailed in more complex scenarios
And if Shabbir or whoever has filed an FIR as he says "Of duping by selling illegal goods" it will squashed as the sale is not a sale at all. The consideration has been attempted to be paid by fake instruments!

If the situation is as you say it is then we would love to see your friend harish get the bike back. Anyways keep us updated....

Chalo bhai gana bajao...

I have read the whole thread sitting in my office .. starting from 7:29am to 8:36am.
Man ... This was tooo good...estory.. The Heroine is the CBR600 and the Hero & Villian are fighting. This seems to me like the movie AARYA. @Bking is Aarya here...

Jokes Apart... Its a long time now and still no steps taken.. I dont understand why. I remember my friends Sumo was stollen and we got the Sumo back in 3 days with police influence in huge city like Mumbai. Then why not here.
@Bking salute to your efforts man... Hope everything is "ALL IS WELL. ; HAAPIES ENDINGZ"

kyunki ": Aur agar thik na ho to wo the end nahi hai, picture abhi bhaki hai Mere dost "

@devil$lair and abhijeetbuzz: Thanks for your concern guyz. I can understand both you guyz and as well as other's anticipation about why things are not speeding up. With respect to cell phone, in today's time, its not hard getting a number with a fake address. The original number that the thieves gave to my friend harish is obsolete now. It is not a great source of tracking the thieves down if it is turned off.

The other major problem is that the bike does not have clean papers as I kept noting it in the previous posts time and again. The bike is not in my friend's harish's name. This is clearly the thief's advantage. He still has a lot of room to play and consider other options. But the only reason he is even considering to negotiate is that his photo is up on the net!!! The police know his face! so the thief still has an open option to come back with a clean hand and say that he didn't know paper formalities and give it back. If this happens, it is good for the thief. But if he does not come back with the bike, rest assured, when he does get nailed by the police in the future, they would know him. If he is clever, he will come back to give the bike. Even worse for thief, this xbhp site is where all hardcore superbikers discuss, share and deal with superbikes. So this makes it very hard for the thief in the future to do these shady activities. Yes, there will still be some innocent soul will get cheated, but for a vast majority of shady sales, they will cease because of such a post. Even people who are not aware of xbhp and are discussing with friends to buy one, someone of his friends who will definitely know xbhp will alert him/her of the shady sbk business, leaving a lot of room to become aware. This was my friend harish's intention.

Fingers crossed guyz, am waiting day by day, minute by minute, to look for any updates. Keep you all posted! Thanks for your wishes!

BKing..

Yep Buddy.. I knew the Ans to those Q's posted by me.Those were to the other members who got misled by those brats.

I've see a Hanspree Edition Last sunday @ GVK Mall.. if it would have been ur Konica one..This case would have been closed by now