Even if the oil pump does not fail, your oil indicator red lamp on the Shogun can fail. It works on a level switch that is fitted inside the 2T chamber. So even if your ignition key "check" position will show a red light, when you run out of 2T - the red lamp will not glow. You will only notice it, if you regularly check your 2T level OR if you sense that your 2T should end by now, why it has not. It happened to me once and I ran dry for 80 Kms almost, sometimes throttling hard thus screwing my piston big time. Beside that, the throttle cable that connects to the oil pump can malfunction too. Your accelerator cable is a Y cable, one controlling the 2T. Multiple dependencies, so more chance of failure. Since it has happened to me, I prefer to premix even if the oil pump is running.

As I said earlier " Premixing oil is being considered as one's own choice. ".
If you are confident about your pump do not premix. End of story. I really do not care if 1000 other people have their oil pumps running good and not premixing. I do what I feel is suitable for me.

Yes. I don't see how Motul's oil can be 'that' much better to justify its price. I'm waiting to use it so I can let you'll know.

Sometime back I had used ESSO 2T oil which was manufactured by Exxon Mobil. It was pretty good. Seemed to be semi synthetic as it was the 2nd best in their line up. The shop where I used to buy it from had only got a few cartons of it and never got more after they got sold out. It was for Rs.180 per liter.

^^^I guess it can be repaired... but others more knowledgeable about it here can hopefully make more useful comments. If not repair, then you could just replace it... for peace of mind. And it would be worth it.

So your pump has run trouble free for 23 years? You have never needed to repair/replace it? How many km has your bike run with that pump? Any idea what make it is? The pump in my Shogun is a Pricol... if I remember correct.

I have a 23 year old RX100 and the oil pump is still intact. Most of them prefer mixing the oil while fuelling. Wonder why If there is a fault in the pump/autolube system cant it be repaired?

In the begining I was using Mitsubushi (Tide Water Oil Co.) which was the best I'v used. It was difficult to find anyway... and was later discontinued. After this I used Mobil 2t. This too proved proved to be very difficult to get anywhere... so getting fed up of all the hunting evertime I need a bottle of oil, I just started using Castrol Jet X; even though I'm no fan of Castrol. There weren't much choises anyway. Also, JetX was and is the easiest to get anywhere.

So yes, at least Mobil did have 2t oils... but if they still have it in their portfolio, I dont know... I dont think so.

Btw, how many oil pumps have you seen failing? I think they are fairly reliable. I know couple of friends with approx decade old vehicles like Shoguns, RXs and even Kinetic Hondas whose oil pumps are still going great. Heck they they don't even know there is a pump inside, Lol!

This is a fully synth oil right? Its still much cheaper than Motul. Do let us have your review after you use it.

It will be great if we can have a final verdict for RD350s, RX100s, RX135s, Shoguns and Shaolins.

So far as the thread went it is something like this:

For stock ones - Yamalube/Shell2T (Green)/Mak 2T
For dragstars - Motul 800 2T

Premixing oil is being considered as one's own choice. A bit of premixing does not harm. It is true that the mechanical oil pump can fail anytime.

On another note I was wondering if we get Mobil in India? Do they make 2 stroke oils?

Kunal you have a pm.

I bought the Petronas oil yesterday. I'm just waiting for the Yamalube to be consumed now.

Its for Rs. 325 a liter for '07 stock. The new stock will be Rs. 457.

This conclusion can only be reached by the manufacturer or the oil company since we don't have the equipment to conduct such tests. Obviously the manufacturer's recommendation should take precedence. However, since most latter 2 strokers have autolube systems, you most likely wont find the recommendation in the manual... so you can't know for sure. This is one more reason to use the bike the way the manufacturer intended - with the autolube!

But generally 2 or 3 % is what is usually used in most 2 strokers.

Most 2 sroke oil makers say 2% is around what you should use... I'v seen this printed on many oil bottles in the past.

how do you come to conclusion that its 2% or 3% that you have to mix? is there any theory behind this. according to factory standards/company the bikes will have a measurement ratio right?

Do let us know what you think of Petronas. Whats the cost by the way?

Strange... you must have a block or something somewhere... Hope your mech did the bleeding job properly.

Autolube + premix cud be a good idea in some cases... I'v done that v few times... when the engine was going to be really stressed. I used something like 1 - 0.5 % oil in the tank. More frequently I add just a tiny bit of oil in the tank... keeps it from rusting too.

Didn't exactly get your question... are you asking how much oil/lt of petrol when considering percentages? Pretty simple - 2% = 20 ml oil and 3% = 30 ml.

how will you calculate the % oil for petrol while mixing. i thought ratios were easier.

oil pipes were new and was using the transparent(or semi you can say) ones just to double check the oil flow. I was the one who particularly wanted the oil pump at the first place after rebuild. so mech got it connected, checked for air bubbles,leaks etc it was working fine with normal riding. ripping her would choke the oil flow. dont know the reason.

regarding this i am half knowledged. but i have heard people suggesting pre mix as well as autolube

Yes - only motul but this is overkill for the RD so I may blend for the RD with some other lube and go pure for the TZR.

Are you running the Motul oil in your RD as well?

I'll be buying Petronas fully synthetic oil on Monday. If I like the performance, I'll stock an entire crate at home.