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^^^ Hmmm... interesting point! Well, unlike MPFI cars, the petrol supply would never be zero in a carbed bike. So some oil will be supplied... but then question would be is this oil sufficient to lube the engine when say you are coasting downhill at 100 kmph with throttle closed... I'm not sure. Maybe thats why the oil pump is provided.
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I'm using premix on my bike, as there's no oil pump to supply oil when the throttle is in the completely off position, wouldn't the engine be starved of oil at that point?Originally posted by Bladerunner View Post
i know that you have to keep changing throttle position on a two stroke, but in case there's no oil pump, shouldn't you avoid completely cutting off?Leave a comment:
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Originally posted by itsarjun View Posthi all,
my shogun has just been through a complete engine rebuild and am looking forward to breaking her in . . .
wanted to know if its advisable to use synthetic oils at this stage . . .
(any other tips for running in would be greatly appreciated, its my first time running in a two stroke you see . . .)Originally posted by arvindraju View Posti had a Question on the same lines but for my 4-speed 135
is there any like mineral based 2t oil that be used during engine rebuilds of a 2 stroker till the run-in time ?Use Motul Motomix. Its a very good mineral oil.Originally posted by itsarjun View Posti guess mineral based oil is the oil you normally get at the pumps?
i've read somewhere that you're not supposed to use synthetic for the run in. Please advice
While running in make sure you use engine speed to slow down. Its good for break in.
Don't rev the engine too much and try to stay below 50 km/h for the first 500 kms. After that try going up to 70 km/h and come back below 50 but don't cruise at any speed. Try changing speeds all the time. Never hold the throttle open constantly on a 2 stroke, even after running in. Use the throttle in a "on/off" method. After 800 kms try going up above 70 km/h.
After 1000 kms start using semi synthetic or synthetic oils.Leave a comment:
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At pumps you will lucky if its even mineral...Originally posted by itsarjun View Posti guess mineral based oil is the oil you normally get at the pumps?
i've read somewhere that you're not supposed to use synthetic for the run in. Please advice
So make sure whatever you buy only a sealed bottle or sachets. Better option would be to use Idemitsu, Gulf... you get these in sachets also. Later you can use VSX2, Petronas, Motul 510, Motul 800... in that order.
Btw, MAK 2t is supposed to be semi synthetic. In fact, I'm not too sure if mineral or semi-synth should be an issue wrt 2 stroke oils. It seems a 2t has to be semi synth to meet JASO FC requirements. So I'm inclined to say you could use any of the better oils mentioned above, right from the start, barring maybe Motul 800.Last edited by Raccoon; 09-16-2009, 02:24 AM.Leave a comment:
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Aravind any oil available in bunks are good for runnin, preferablly MAK 2T.
Your engine is yet to be done rite! why asking now ?
"Information is wealth" ah
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Yes, you are not supposed to use synthetic immediately after rebuild. Use castrol or mak or any other mineral oil.Leave a comment:
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Originally posted by arvindraju View Posti had a Question on the same lines but for my 4-speed 135
is there any like mineral based 2t oil that be used during engine rebuilds of a 2 stroker till the run-in time ?
i guess mineral based oil is the oil you normally get at the pumps?
i've read somewhere that you're not supposed to use synthetic for the run in. Please advice
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Originally posted by itsarjun View Posthi all,
my shogun has just been through a complete engine rebuild and am looking forward to breaking her in . . .
wanted to know if its advisable to use synthetic oils at this stage . . .
(any other tips for running in would be greatly appreciated, its my first time running in a two stroke you see . . .)
i had a Question on the same lines but for my 4-speed 135
is there any like mineral based 2t oil that be used during engine rebuilds of a 2 stroker till the run-in time ?Leave a comment:
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hi all,
my shogun has just been through a complete engine rebuild and am looking forward to breaking her in . . .
wanted to know if its advisable to use synthetic oils at this stage . . .
(any other tips for running in would be greatly appreciated, its my first time running in a two stroke you see . . .)
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I have no clue which oil it is. That is why I was asking. This is what is pre mixed in the pump. i tell the guy to set it to 5% and pour in how much ever fuel I require. I have no idea how it got clogged. Was ridding happily one day and the bike seized up. The pipe stopped giving oil and later it began to on its own again.Originally posted by Raccoon View PostOops... sorry! That was a typo. I meant 510.
Do you mean Shell VSX2? Amongst the Indian makes, its supposed to be amongst the better oils. The imported (French) Motul 510 is much better...
Btw, 5% oil seems to be too much. Generally more than 3% is not required at the very max. You have to take care to keep the pipes and all totally clean... the passages are very narrow! How did it get clogged btw?Leave a comment:
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Oops... sorry! That was a typo. I meant 510.Originally posted by NitinGirish View Post
Do you mean Shell VSX2? Amongst the Indian makes, its supposed to be amongst the better oils. The imported (French) Motul 510 is much better...Originally posted by furioussphinx View Post
Btw, 5% oil seems to be too much. Generally more than 3% is not required at the very max. You have to take care to keep the pipes and all totally clean... the passages are very narrow! How did it get clogged btw?Leave a comment:
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Guys, I have a ported RX 135 5Speed running on 58mm pistons and asome other mods. Right now, i disconnected my 2T oil side box and fill the oil directly into the tank along with the fuel (Engine got seized thanks to that stupid pipe getting clogged). Right now, am using ONLY shell super-premium (or something of that sort) petrol with 5% oil. Is this safe for my bike?Leave a comment:
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Was that a typo? There is a 510, is there a 520 too?Originally posted by Raccoon View PostLeave a comment:
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Perhaps because its thicker and/or is immiscible in gasoline. You can use Motul 520 I mentioned eariler with the pump. Definitely better than Yamahalube. Motul 800 is ment to be used as pre mix only.Originally posted by NitinGirish View PostWhy is it so? I was thinking of switching over to Motul, but if it cant be used in the pump might as well stick to Yamalube I guessLast edited by Raccoon; 09-09-2009, 08:43 PM.Leave a comment:
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Are you using the oil sump/pump/tank?Originally posted by arvindraju View Post^^^ VSX2 is still available @ bangalore shell bunks
Why is it so? I was thinking of switching over to Motul, but if it cant be used in the pump might as well stick to Yamalube I guessOriginally posted by Raccoon View Post
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