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  • Originally posted by vkavadia View Post
    Any reasons for changing the oil when the engine is hot?
    Hot oil is thinner and runs out faster,but little danger ,because hot engine oil can burn you hand.Changing the oil when it is cold will take more time because the oil will drain more slowly from the engine.


    What is an Engine Flush?
    Last edited by Aneesh@4GHz; 05-31-2011, 03:26 PM.

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    • Originally posted by vkavadia View Post
      Any reasons for changing the oil when the engine is hot?

      And what exactly is the procedure for flushing the engine? i switch from mineral to SS without flushing..
      Even i was interested in knowing about engine flush...

      Can diesel or kerosene be used as local agent for flushing.???
      RIP Marco

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      • hai guys,
        which is the best semi synthetic oil in 10w40 grade?

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        • Originally posted by akatl View Post
          hai guys,
          which is the best semi synthetic oil in 10w40 grade?
          shell advance ax7
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          • Originally posted by akatl View Post
            hai guys,
            which is the best semi synthetic oil in 10w40 grade?

            Veedol super swift 10w40.......only thing to say use it to feel it.....

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            • Originally posted by vkavadia View Post
              Any reasons for changing the oil when the engine is hot?

              And what exactly is the procedure for flushing the engine? i switch from mineral to SS without flushing..
              Originally posted by vkuchhal View Post
              Even i was interested in knowing about engine flush...

              Can diesel or kerosene be used as local agent for flushing.???
              i do not recommend "you" changing the oil
              1.the used oil has to be disposed off properly
              2.we might screw up the seal,etc. (happened once )

              This is what i recommend,
              .ride till engine is hot,i.e 10 mins in sun(revv if you want)
              .go to the mech shop and place the bike on the main stand
              .wait for 5 mins
              .let him open the oil drain screw (they (99%) have a long reach spanner, so no hand burning)
              .let all the oil drain out (interval between each drop should be <10 secs)
              .bend the bike a little if required
              .clean the oil drain screw/seal and the bottom of engine from where the oil came out and put back
              .put in new oil
              .idle for 5 mins on main stand
              .enjoy

              the concept of flushing is vast and can be done in many ways,using
              .special solvents ("flush" liquid )
              .desiel
              .kerosine
              .etc

              i do not recommend this unless you have a bike which was run on mineral for a long tim15~20k kms for short distances only,with out regular oil changes (minute amt of sludge might be formed,very unlikely,but still).
              ex- p150,2004 model,run 18k kms,avg daily run ~5 kms,oil change - every 3~4k kms,bajaj SVC oil/chepo mineral,skipped some oil changes
              now if this guy wants FS and plan to use it regularly,then he has to go for flush

              or else,change the oil when hot... i say switch from mineral to SS first and use it,if that oil is good enough for you,stick to it (for most 150's SS are more than enough), if you think FS is for you then change from SS to FS in the above recommended manner.

              I also do not recommend SS for atleast 2k kms on 165+ cc and 3k for upto 150cc bike,first switch to SS,use for 2k kms,then to FS

              Ex- p220f - 500kms - oil change - mineral
              2k kms - motul 5100 15W50
              4k kms- motul 5100 15W50 or motul 300v/7100/elf 4Xt tech FS

              the thing about flushing is one might actually reduce their engine usable life if not done properly...

              Boxy's oil guide

              mineral - motul 3000 4t - 20W40/50 (20W50 recommended for
              pulsars,esp <150cc)
              SS - shell Ax7 10W40,castrol activ (150's),petronas SS 10W40,
              motul 5100 15W50
              valvolene 4t premium 20W50 (180's, 200's , ~220's )
              FS - shell ultra10W40 (150's),Petronas FS 10W40 (i do not
              recomend for pulsars) Elf moto 4Xt tech 10W50
              ~motul 300v 15W50, ~~ motul 7100 15W50

              i recommend SS to every enthusiast

              EX of a flush that i bought

              Last edited by Dogg; 06-01-2011, 09:46 PM.
              RED BULL did'nt give me WINGS, my BIKE did !!

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              • Originally posted by Dogg View Post
                i do not recommend "you" changing the oil
                1.the used oil has to be disposed off properly
                2.we might screw up the seal,etc. (happened once )

                This is what i recommend,
                .ride till engine is hot,i.e 10 mins in sun(revv if you want)
                .go to the mech shop and place the bike on the main stand
                .wait for 5 mins
                .let him open the oil drain screw (they (99%) have a long reach spanner, so no hand burning)
                .let all the oil drain out (interval between each drop should be <10 secs)
                .bend the bike a little if required
                .clean the oil drain screw/seal and the bottom of engine from where the oil came out and put back
                .put in new oil
                .idle for 5 mins on main stand
                .enjoy

                the concept of flushing is vast and can be done in many ways,using
                .special solvents ("flush" liquid )
                .desiel
                .kerosine
                .etc

                i do not recommend this unless you have a bike which was run on mineral for a long tim15~20k kms for short distances only,with out regular oil changes (minute amt of sludge might be formed,very unlikely,but still).
                ex- p150,2004 model,run 18k kms,avg daily run ~5 kms,oil change - every 3~4k kms,bajaj SVC oil/chepo mineral,skipped some oil changes
                now if this guy wants FS and plan to use it regularly,then he has to go for flush

                or else,change the oil when hot... i say switch from mineral to SS first and use it,if that oil is good enough for you,stick to it (for most 150's SS are more than enough), if you think FS is for you then change from SS to FS in the above recommended manner.

                I also do not recommend SS for atleast 2k kms on 165+ cc and 3k for upto 150cc bike,first switch to SS,use for 2k kms,then to FS

                Ex- p220f - 500kms - oil change - mineral
                2k kms - motul 5100 15W50
                4k kms- motul 5100 15W50 or motul 300v/7100/elf 4Xt tech FS

                the thing about flushing is one might actually reduce their engine usable life if not done properly...

                Boxy's oil guide

                mineral - motul 3000 4t - 20W40/50 (20W50 recommended for
                pulsars,esp <150cc)
                SS - shell Ax7 10W40,castrol activ (150's),petronas SS 10W40,
                motul 5100 15W50
                valvolene 4t premium 20W50 (180's, 200's , ~220's )
                FS - shell ultra10W40 (150's),Petronas FS 10W40 (i do not
                recomend for pulsars) Elf moto 4Xt tech 10W50
                ~motul 300v 15W50, ~~ motul 7100 15W50

                i recommend SS to every enthusiast
                Thanks .. that was very informative...
                RIP Marco

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                  • Which Oil to be used for Discover 100cc?

                    Hi all,
                    Oil indicator shows that there is very little (engine oil) left in my bike, last time I went to Shell and got it changed there itself, although not sure, which rating (Shell branded Oil)etc I have completed 3.5K on this Oil Change (including some 300+kms long rides)

                    I was going through various threads, I am a little confused, can someone suggest a good engine oil for my bike please, from tomorrow I will be riding over 40kms+ in city traffic for almost a month.

                    And also I have noticed that sometimes mechanic pour petrol into the engine oil vent to drain any old oil inside, is it a right thing to do?

                    Please reply asap

                    Thanks in advance
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                    • @ my1000cc simply go for either motul 20w40 mineral oil or gulf pride 4t plus 20w40 mineral oil..... you can also try veedol 4t takeoff plus.....good one

                      For flushing...use only flushing oil/agent like above shown one
                      Last edited by nagthemissile; 06-02-2011, 04:08 PM.

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                      • Thank you

                        Originally posted by nagthemissile View Post
                        @ my1000cc simply go for either motul 20w40 mineral oil or gulf pride 4t plus 20w40 mineral oil..... you can also try veedol 4t takeoff plus.....good one

                        For flushing...use only flushing oil/agent like above shown one

                        Thank you so much for the info....I was eagerly waiting for this reply....
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                        • Hi guys,

                          Can you get me the details of shops who sell petronas engine oils in hyderabad?

                          My service due in 2nd week of this month.

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                          • Originally posted by pavan_cin View Post
                            Hi guys,

                            Can you get me the details of shops who sell petronas engine oils in hyderabad?

                            My service due in 2nd week of this month.
                            go to ramkoti.you will find any oil you want
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                            • SPOKE WITH THE MOTUL main DEALER in chennai...asked him for motul mineral oil..20w50....he asked me to purchase a fully synthetic oil which is more worth it and protects the engine and gear box...i said my bike has run just 400 odd kms...he said that this is the right time to put fully synthetic.....is it true???
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                              • Originally posted by vkuchhal View Post
                                Even i was interested in knowing about engine flush...
                                Can diesel or kerosene be used as local agent for flushing.???
                                No major motorcycle manufacturer recommends that you flush engine oil . Engine flushing oils are mainly designed to be used in car engines . Under normal use , there should be no need to flush an motorcycle engine ever . You should change straight from your old oil to new , be it mineral to synthetic or vice versa . There is no known incompatibility between these engine oil types (else they wouldn't be selling it). Engine flush oils / diesel /kerosene/ petrol .. nothing is safe .. it can cause more problem than it solves . This is because you can never drain out all the oil that is in an motorcycle engine . So after using a lighter flushing oil , some of the mixture of old oil and flushing oil remains within the engine and mixes with your fresh new oil and spoils it somewhat . Moreover it can loosen & free some of the deposits that sits inside an old engine , thereby causing a block in the delicate oil paths or a gasket leak . As I said , you can never drain out all of the gunk from the flushing process completely .

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