Engine Oils

[rookster]

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Whats the advisable grade for Dominar 400 UG in motul ?
I'm going to be switching from Bajaj FS to Motul FS, do i need to follow any procedures ?

[krish2778]

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A huge thread to go through, can you please give us a brief on the discussion over there.

That's what i said in the last post. Use at your own discretion, while the high detergent values in those diesel engine oils help clean up the engine sludge usually, but it also have cases where the clutch slips and causes problems. So general trend is to change oil in shorter intervals, which while might be good for your engine in some respects but on the flip side thats a lot of oil waste that you need to dispose off carefully and responsibly.

P.S : This is again a skinny on the whole discussion which is of a broad spectrum. So do understand the risks and act accordingly.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

[Zapps]

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A huge thread to go through, can you please give us a brief on the discussion over there.

Do so at your own discretion. There has been some extensive discussion about using Diesel vehicle engine oils for bikes. Go through it and make a decision.

Shiv's CBR thread is a huge source of information for the same. I'd suggest you check that too.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

[krish2778]

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Do so at your own discretion. There has been some extensive discussion about using Diesel vehicle engine oils for bikes. Go through it and make a decision.

Shiv's CBR thread is a huge source of information for the same. I'd suggest you check that too.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

[vjxm]

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What mobil oil for VW polo TDI 2018.
How much quantity it need.

[Vyshakh]

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Is this shell rimula diesel engine oil good for suzuki gixxer?

[Vipergts07]

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Thanks yashasvi. Have you faced any drop in engine oil level when you used motul 7100? Because previously I had used motul 300v on my unicorn and the engine oil level dropped drastically after 3000 kms which was never the case with honda genuine mineral oil. And how much kms can motul 7100 last?

Highly recommend the Mobil super moto 10w40 for the uni. Works better than ax7 or any Castrol.

[yashasvi]

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I never observed any drastic reduction in oil level while using motul engine oils, i started with 5100 ,used to keep it for 2000 kms, then to 7100 and used to keep it for around 3000 kms and finally 300v which is use for 5000 kms.

Thanks yashasvi. Have you faced any drop in engine oil level when you used motul 7100? Because previously I had used motul 300v on my unicorn and the engine oil level dropped drastically after 3000 kms which was never the case with honda genuine mineral oil. And how much kms can motul 7100 last?

[vengymgen]

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Thanks yashasvi. Have you faced any drop in engine oil level when you used motul 7100? Because previously I had used motul 300v on my unicorn and the engine oil level dropped drastically after 3000 kms which was never the case with honda genuine mineral oil. And how much kms can motul 7100 last?

Use motul 5100 if you want to go for semi synthetic and motul 7100 if you want to go for fully synthetic. I have been using motul for the last 7 years and the performance has been good only

[yashasvi]

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Use motul 5100 if you want to go for semi synthetic and motul 7100 if you want to go for fully synthetic. I have been using motul for the last 7 years and the performance has been good only

Which is the best engine oil for rtr 200?

[vengymgen]

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Which is the best engine oil for rtr 200?

[#bpk]

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It's a passion pro. But the fact is applicable to all air cooled engines. My bike was not consuming oil till 81K km. Super smooth, no hassles. When I drained the first can of SS oil after 4k km there was a drop of about 300ml in oil quantity. But I was naive. I just ignored it, poured another can and used it for another 4k km. [emoji28]

Now I use only mineral oil and drain it every 2k km.

The castrol power1 SS I used was of 15w40 grade. Hero 4t plus mineral oil from the ASC is 10w30 grade. We would think that power1 is thicker than hero 4t plus. But actually it's the opposite. 15w40 semisynth oil is thinner than 10w30 mineral oil. So I guess in older/air cooled engines with low compression these FS/SS oils get past the piston rings and burn in very minute quantity. Hence there will be no visible smoke or drop in performance but the oil level will drop very slowly.

Another problem is that these oils do not lose their viscosity even at drainage time. Your bike will be smooth even when the oil level will be low. So you don't notice it until you check the level or the engine gets seized!

But with mineral oil the bike will become very harsh during the drainage period. So you will naturally notice it and change the oil.

Note: All my points are related to bikes with air/air-oil cooled engines.
I don't know about oil life in liquid cooled engines.

Motoman.

Same thing happened with my brother's super splendor,( 36k kilometers on odo ) i used motul semi synthetic 10w 30 and after 3k kilometers when i drained it i was surprised that , about 300 ml of oil was consumed, the engine felt smooth and no smoke came from engine from that time i decided to use only mineral oil for my Hornet and super splendor.

[MotoMan]

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Which bike you own bro ? ( piston work bike , which is it ? )

It's a passion pro. But the fact is applicable to all air cooled engines. My bike was not consuming oil till 81K km. Super smooth, no hassles. When I drained the first can of SS oil after 4k km there was a drop of about 300ml in oil quantity. But I was naive. I just ignored it, poured another can and used it for another 4k km. [emoji28]

Now I use only mineral oil and drain it every 2k km.

The castrol power1 SS I used was of 15w40 grade. Hero 4t plus mineral oil from the ASC is 10w30 grade. We would think that power1 is thicker than hero 4t plus. But actually it's the opposite. 15w40 semisynth oil is thinner than 10w30 mineral oil. So I guess in older/air cooled engines with low compression these FS/SS oils get past the piston rings and burn in very minute quantity. Hence there will be no visible smoke or drop in performance but the oil level will drop very slowly.

Another problem is that these oils do not lose their viscosity even at drainage time. Your bike will be smooth even when the oil level will be low. So you don't notice it until you check the level or the engine gets seized!

But with mineral oil the bike will become very harsh during the drainage period. So you will naturally notice it and change the oil.

Note: All my points are related to bikes with air/air-oil cooled engines.
I don't know about oil life in liquid cooled engines.

Motoman.

[#bpk]

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It's right. Mineral, FS or SS whatever the type of oil maybe it will not last more than 3000km in an air cooled engine due to ever varying temperature condition. I am saying it from my experience.
I used to use mineral oil and change every 2000km and every thing was good. One day I went to buy new oil and the shopkeeper recommended castrol power 1 semisynth. I had a notion that it would last longer. So I bought and extended the interval to 4k km. Performance wise it was great but it simply didn't last that long. After using two cans of SS oil for 4k km each, my bike went straight to the SVC for bore-piston change. [emoji854]
In a liquid cooled engine tha case may be different though. A constant working temperature is maintained in these engines. I have read about a cbr250r which has done 125000+km with all stock internals. The owner mentioned about missing two or three services but still the oil lasted for 20k km!

Which bike you own bro ? ( piston work bike , which is it ? )

[MotoMan]

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It's right. Mineral, FS or SS whatever the type of oil maybe it will not last more than 3000km in an air cooled engine due to ever varying temperature condition. I am saying it from my experience.
I used to use mineral oil and change every 2000km and every thing was good. One day I went to buy new oil and the shopkeeper recommended castrol power 1 semisynth. I had a notion that it would last longer. So I bought and extended the interval to 4k km. Performance wise it was great but it simply didn't last that long. After using two cans of SS oil for 4k km each, my bike went straight to the SVC for bore-piston change. [emoji854]
In a liquid cooled engine tha case may be different though. A constant working temperature is maintained in these engines. I have read about a cbr250r which has done 125000+km with all stock internals. The owner mentioned about missing two or three services but still the oil lasted for 20k km!