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  • Zapps
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    Re: Engine Oils

    Originally posted by Greymatter View Post
    Anyone here ever used this brand of engine oil or this particular oil?
    Bro just stick with the well known and recommended brands. All these unknown brands sell mineral oil and Mark it as super synthetic or what not. And since you have a decent bike, I'd request you not to fall into the trap by using these kinds of garbage oil.

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  • Greymatter
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  • ashwanth.r
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    Re: Engine Oils

    Originally posted by ayrus View Post
    I've checked personally that the oil level is at the bottom of the dipstick, even after filling 1200ml oil.
    The sump of 200/160 4v takes approx 1300 ml of oil with filter change and approx 1200 ml w/o filter change. The value mentioned on the clutch cover for Suzuki and TVS vehicles is the oil level w/o filter change. 1300 ml was mentioned in the training video a company made for TVS (Export Markets).

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  • Aswinlogi
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    Re: Engine Oils

    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
    You can change grades without a trouble, irrespective of SS of FS to Mineral, the engine won't complain. The engine would complain only when the oil is excessively dragged beyond its usage life and that's when trouble starts. Use any oil, as long as it is the right grade, your bike won't complain. The key is the interval you change.



    FS do have a nature to vanish without a trace. Stick with semi-synthetic, they are cheaper and have almost as same a life as the FS.

    Cheers!
    VJ
    Yeah will change it by next service probably.

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  • ayrus
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    Re: Engine Oils

    Originally posted by Aswinlogi View Post
    Guys I own an Apache160 4v, everything is fine with him..but I feel the FS oil by TVS TRU 4 (BPCL) isn't good or lasts longer. After a trip of 500 kms(up& Down) , there's a significant drop in oil level !!!

    WTH is this !
    And one can see comparatively the difference between motul and other branded oils.

    So shall I go with Motul from next service ? I should do the 3rd service probably next Month .
    Are you referring to the same incident you mentioned in the 160 4v thread or a different incident?

    Did you check the oil level before the trip?

    I've checked personally that the oil level is at the bottom of the dipstick, even after filling 1200ml oil. If you're too paranoid, drain the oil and check the quantity. If it is ≥1100ml, you're good to go. If not, add oil to make it 1150ml, fill it and see if the oil disappears again.

    Hope this helps.

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  • B7ACKTHORN
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    Re: Engine Oils

    Originally posted by Greymatter View Post
    . So, I feel that for now slightly thicker oil might be better and the reason why am going for Valvoline 20W50 SS is coz I already have it. All I wanna know is whether I can change grades straight away or is there any process involved?

    You can change grades without a trouble, irrespective of SS of FS to Mineral, the engine won't complain. The engine would complain only when the oil is excessively dragged beyond its usage life and that's when trouble starts. Use any oil, as long as it is the right grade, your bike won't complain. The key is the interval you change.

    Originally posted by Aswinlogi View Post
    Guys I own an Apache160 4v, everything is fine with him..but I feel the FS oil by TVS TRU 4 (BPCL) isn't good or lasts longer. After a trip of 500 kms(up& Down) , there's a significant drop in oil level !!!

    WTH is this !
    And one can see comparatively the difference between motul and other branded oils.

    So shall I go with Motul from next service ? I should do the 3rd service probably next Month .
    FS do have a nature to vanish without a trace. Stick with semi-synthetic, they are cheaper and have almost as same a life as the FS.

    Cheers!
    VJ

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  • #bpk
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    Re: Engine Oils

    Originally posted by Aswinlogi View Post
    Guys I own an Apache160 4v, everything is fine with him..but I feel the FS oil by TVS TRU 4 (BPCL) isn't good or lasts longer. After a trip of 500 kms(up& Down) , there's a significant drop in oil level !!!

    WTH is this !
    And one can see comparatively the difference between motul and other branded oils.

    So shall I go with Motul from next service ? I should do the 3rd service probably next Month .
    You can try honda throttle 10w 30 synthetic oil, i too had bad experience with tvs tru4 synthetic oil,or you can go for motul 5100 10w 30 which is semi synthetic bdw.

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  • Aswinlogi
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    Re: Engine Oils

    Guys I own an Apache160 4v, everything is fine with him..but I feel the FS oil by TVS TRU 4 (BPCL) isn't good or lasts longer. After a trip of 500 kms(up& Down) , there's a significant drop in oil level !!!

    WTH is this !
    And one can see comparatively the difference between motul and other branded oils.

    So shall I go with Motul from next service ? I should do the 3rd service probably next Month .

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  • ashwanth.r
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    Re: Engine Oils

    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
    The oil sold by Bajaj Under the 10000 was literally snakeoil that had a best life of 2k max which was manufactured by HP.
    Vijay, does anyone you know uses a xW-40 in their KTM Duke 200 or Bajaj 200 NS/RS/AS? I vaguely remember reading in a KTM manual that 10W-40 can be used if the average ambient temperature outside is 40 or less. Am asking this because these engines have better tolerances (?) than the classics from BAL and the primary burden of keeping the engine cool is with the coolant and not the oil.

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  • Zapps
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    Re: Engine Oils

    Originally posted by sanjeet286 View Post
    Oh. Well, the Domi is my 1st big bike and hence learning the maintenance pieces slowly. Bajaj claims their oil to last 10k Kms, but most of the riders in the DOCB group have recommended a change at 5k Kmsand hence following that. Let me push it to bit earlier going forward going forward then.
    Well, Bajaj does claims rather boldly even on the engine oil bottle. But it's weird, to say the least. Rest, if the Domi Gurus feel 5k is the ideal, OK. You could also see how well the oil behaves and till what KM range.

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  • sanjeet286
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    Re: Engine Oils

    Originally posted by Zapps View Post
    You'd run oil for 5k KMs? Good lord, dude, bike engines are different from car engines. Don't go beyond 3-4k that too with a compatible fully synthetic oil.
    Oh. Well, the Domi is my 1st big bike and hence learning the maintenance pieces slowly. Bajaj claims their oil to last 10k Kms, but most of the riders in the DOCB group have recommended a change at 5k Kmsand hence following that. Let me push it to bit earlier going forward going forward then.

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  • Throttlefreak
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    Re: Engine Oils

    Originally posted by sanjeet286 View Post
    I'm at 7500kms and up for my 3rd service soon. I aim to change my oil every 5k Kms so if the oil gives me it's best by 5k Kms, that would be perfect. Some oils start to work well at later stages and hence may not suit my purpose.

    I actually don't have vibration issues on my Domi (touch wood) as yet, so maybe this may make it even more smoother.
    My oil change happened between two long rides hence I noticed the difference quickly. Whether the smoothness will stay is a topic that should be discussed later. The SVC changed only the filter but bajaj oil had become black and extremely dirty. I feel that no synthetic oil should be stretched more than 7-8K kms. I seriously doubt whether the bajaj oil can really hold for 10K kms(the fact that my bike was never so smooth from beginning and even after the running in) . So go ahead and change it if you want. My bike has the 5 Yr/75000km warranty but I might leave the country for higher education and won't be here till then. Hence there's no point in delaying the switch to Motul till then.

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  • Zapps
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    Re: Engine Oils

    Originally posted by sanjeet286 View Post
    I'm at 7500kms and up for my 3rd service soon. I aim to change my oil every 5k Kms so if the oil gives me it's best by 5k Kms, that would be perfect. Some oils start to work well at later stages and hence may not suit my purpose.

    I actually don't have vibration issues on my Domi (touch wood) as yet, so maybe this may make it even more smoother.
    You'd run oil for 5k KMs? Good lord, dude, bike engines are different from car engines. Don't go beyond 3-4k that too with a compatible fully synthetic oil.

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  • sanjeet286
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    Re: Engine Oils

    Originally posted by Throttlefreak View Post
    Mine is from Vietnam. The difference is noticed in the first 100 km. I've covered about 700 km since the change and so far so good. No leaks, engine overheating or any other issues. The cost is about 200 rupees more than the bajaj oil for a 1.5L bottle but the vibrations reduce a lot. The oil holds its viscosity even when hot as is evident while observing in the oil sight glass. BTW how many kms have you completed?
    I'm at 7500kms and up for my 3rd service soon. I aim to change my oil every 5k Kms so if the oil gives me it's best by 5k Kms, that would be perfect. Some oils start to work well at later stages and hence may not suit my purpose.

    I actually don't have vibration issues on my Domi (touch wood) as yet, so maybe this may make it even more smoother.

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  • Throttlefreak
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    Re: Engine Oils

    Originally posted by sanjeet286 View Post
    I'm so confused with which oil to use after my warranty comes to an end. A lot have recommended release-on, though many have also vouched for Motul 7100. Is 7100 really that good? I think this thread itself has said that it's only good for the 1st 1000kms or so and then isn't much different to Bajaj oil.

    Also, the 7100 is manufactured in Vietnam and France. The original oe from France seems to be a winner here, but the Vietnam one isn't great. Which one have you used?
    Mine is from Vietnam. The difference is noticed in the first 100 km. I've covered about 700 km since the change and so far so good. No leaks, engine overheating or any other issues. The cost is about 200 rupees more than the bajaj oil for a 1.5L bottle but the vibrations reduce a lot. The oil holds its viscosity even when hot as is evident while observing in the oil sight glass. BTW how many kms have you completed?

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