Engine Oils

[Aswinlogi]

Re: Engine Oils

For what bike? A Honda? Ideally the number before the W shouldn't be changed. Use of thicker oil in the long run ain't good for the engine. Changes the tolerances of the moving parts.

Yes I own Apache 160 (2018) and odo is @

[Greymatter]

Re: Engine Oils

Hello guys,

Eventhough we knew about different grades and viscosities of oils , I'm little hesitant to select one yet on my brand new 8 month old bike. I'm gonna planning to use fully synthetic .


Shall I go for 20W50 MOTUL , my manual recommendation is stating 10w30?

Is there any mileage changes noticeable?

Any depth info are welcomed !!!

20W50 is too thick for Tvs & Honda engines. You can safely use 10W40, 15W40 & 20W40.

[#bpk]

Re: Engine Oils

For what bike? A Honda? Ideally the number before the W shouldn't be changed. Use of thicker oil in the long run ain't good for the engine. Changes the tolerances of the moving parts.

He has apache 160 4v.

[Vipergts07]

Re: Engine Oils

Hello guys,

Eventhough we knew about different grades and viscosities of oils , I'm little hesitant to select one yet on my brand new 8 month old bike. I'm gonna planning to use fully synthetic .


Shall I go for 20W50 MOTUL , my manual recommendation is stating 10w30?

Is there any mileage changes noticeable?

Any depth info are welcomed !!!

For what bike? A Honda? Ideally the number before the W shouldn't be changed. Use of thicker oil in the long run ain't good for the engine. Changes the tolerances of the moving parts.

[Aswinlogi]

Re: Engine Oils

Hello guys,

Eventhough we knew about different grades and viscosities of oils , I'm little hesitant to select one yet on my brand new 8 month old bike. I'm gonna planning to use fully synthetic .


Shall I go for 20W50 MOTUL , my manual recommendation is stating 10w30?

Is there any mileage changes noticeable?

Any depth info are welcomed !!!

[suj]

Re: Engine Oils

Did you use that in the gearbox as well?

Nope,I always use shell spirax sae 90 for hear box...

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Did you use that in the gearbox as well?

Nope,I always use shell spirax sae 90 for gear box...

[Vipergts07]

Re: Engine Oils

Car engine can be used in scooters as it comes with dry clutch..I have used shell helix hx7 10w40 a couple of times in my 2007 Honda dio....performance was way smoother when compared with motorcycle oil...

Did you use that in the gearbox as well?

[suj]

Re: Engine Oils

The sai service guys dont follow any strict maintenance schedule for the company scooters. They are abused by almost everyone. We are not permitted to buy external oil and only allowed to use the 5w30 maruti genuine oil. These run daily for almost 40 kms and only get serviced once in 6-7 months or so. For the gear oil they use 75w90 MGO.

Car engine can be used in scooters as it comes with dry clutch..I have used shell helix hx7 10w40 a couple of times in my 2007 Honda dio....performance was way smoother when compared with motorcycle oil...

[MotoMan]

Re: Engine Oils

How often are they changing the oil? Since it's Mineral, I'm assuming it wouldn't be more than 3k Kms.

The sai service guys dont follow any strict maintenance schedule for the company scooters. They are abused by almost everyone. We are not permitted to buy external oil and only allowed to use the 5w30 maruti genuine oil. These run daily for almost 40 kms and only get serviced once in 6-7 months or so. For the gear oil they use 75w90 MGO.

[Vipergts07]

Re: Engine Oils

How often are they changing the oil? Since it's Mineral, I'm assuming it wouldn't be more than 3k Kms.

He mentioned interval of 6k. Am surprised that the mineral oil lasts that long.

[sanjeet286]

Re: Engine Oils

Hello friends,

I am sharing my experience regarding scooters. We have several scooters in our friends circle. Activa, wego, jupiter, access, SR150....almost all scooters are there.
I myself have ridden activas and wegos extensively. I have a HH passion and dont own a scooter. As a DIY guy i always replace the engine oil myself and used to suggest motorcycle engine oils to my scooter friends untill......I got a job in spare parts division of Sai Service- Maruti Suzuki. We had a bunch of Honda Activas for local runs. These were thoroughly abused and beaten up in all imaginable ways. BUT these were really smooth to ride, had faster pickup and very less vibrations. That was quite a surprise. my friends decenlty maintained activas and wegos were feeling sluggish and not as smooth compared to these beaten up Sai service activas which were only serviced every 6k km or so.

I started searching for the reasons for better performance on these company scooters and found it to be the engine oil itself!

Now maruti uses two oils for its petrol engines. 5w30 mineral and 0w20 synthetic, both manufactured by Indian oil corporation.
Both are JASO MB spec oils. The 5w30 oil is used in these activas and thats the reason for such smooth performance. That was an eye opener and now i do not recommend motorcycle oil for scooters. Scooters require JASO MB spec oils as they have low friction engines. Try either scooter specific or car engine oil with JASO MB rating and feel the difference

How often are they changing the oil? Since it's Mineral, I'm assuming it wouldn't be more than 3k Kms.

[Vipergts07]

Re: Engine Oils

Hello friends,

I am sharing my experience regarding scooters. We have several scooters in our friends circle. Activa, wego, jupiter, access, SR150....almost all scooters are there.
I myself have ridden activas and wegos extensively. I have a HH passion and dont own a scooter. As a DIY guy i always replace the engine oil myself and used to suggest motorcycle engine oils to my scooter friends untill......I got a job in spare parts division of Sai Service- Maruti Suzuki. We had a bunch of Honda Activas for local runs. These were thoroughly abused and beaten up in all imaginable ways. BUT these were really smooth to ride, had faster pickup and very less vibrations. That was quite a surprise. my friends decenlty maintained activas and wegos were feeling sluggish and not as smooth compared to these beaten up Sai service activas which were only serviced every 6k km or so.

I started searching for the reasons for better performance on these company scooters and found it to be the engine oil itself!

Now maruti uses two oils for its petrol engines. 5w30 mineral and 0w20 synthetic, both manufactured by Indian oil corporation.
Both are JASO MB spec oils. The 5w30 oil is used in these activas and thats the reason for such smooth performance. That was an eye opener and now i do not recommend motorcycle oil for scooters. Scooters require JASO MB spec oils as they have low friction engines. Try either scooter specific or car engine oil with JASO MB rating and feel the difference

Could you share what they use as gear oil? The same 5w30 or ep90?

[#bpk]

Re: Engine Oils

Hello friends,

I am sharing my experience regarding scooters. We have several scooters in our friends circle. Activa, wego, jupiter, access, SR150....almost all scooters are there.
I myself have ridden activas and wegos extensively. I have a HH passion and dont own a scooter. As a DIY guy i always replace the engine oil myself and used to suggest motorcycle engine oils to my scooter friends untill......I got a job in spare parts division of Sai Service- Maruti Suzuki. We had a bunch of Honda Activas for local runs. These were thoroughly abused and beaten up in all imaginable ways. BUT these were really smooth to ride, had faster pickup and very less vibrations. That was quite a surprise. my friends decenlty maintained activas and wegos were feeling sluggish and not as smooth compared to these beaten up Sai service activas which were only serviced every 6k km or so.

I started searching for the reasons for better performance on these company scooters and found it to be the engine oil itself!

Now maruti uses two oils for its petrol engines. 5w30 mineral and 0w20 synthetic, both manufactured by Indian oil corporation.
Both are JASO MB spec oils. The 5w30 oil is used in these activas and thats the reason for such smooth performance. That was an eye opener and now i do not recommend motorcycle oil for scooters. Scooters require JASO MB spec oils as they have low friction engines. Try either scooter specific or car engine oil with JASO MB rating and feel the difference

Thanks for the info bro. [emoji120][emoji120][emoji120]

[MotoMan]

Re: Engine Oils

Hello friends,

I am sharing my experience regarding scooters. We have several scooters in our friends circle. Activa, wego, jupiter, access, SR150....almost all scooters are there.
I myself have ridden activas and wegos extensively. I have a HH passion and dont own a scooter. As a DIY guy i always replace the engine oil myself and used to suggest motorcycle engine oils to my scooter friends untill......I got a job in spare parts division of Sai Service- Maruti Suzuki. We had a bunch of Honda Activas for local runs. These were thoroughly abused and beaten up in all imaginable ways. BUT these were really smooth to ride, had faster pickup and very less vibrations. That was quite a surprise. my friends decenlty maintained activas and wegos were feeling sluggish and not as smooth compared to these beaten up Sai service activas which were only serviced every 6k km or so.

I started searching for the reasons for better performance on these company scooters and found it to be the engine oil itself!

Now maruti uses two oils for its petrol engines. 5w30 mineral and 0w20 synthetic, both manufactured by Indian oil corporation.
Both are JASO MB spec oils. The 5w30 oil is used in these activas and thats the reason for such smooth performance. That was an eye opener and now i do not recommend motorcycle oil for scooters. Scooters require JASO MB spec oils as they have low friction engines. Try either scooter specific or car engine oil with JASO MB rating and feel the difference

[B7ACKTHORN]

Re: Engine Oils

I put a SS in my celerio this time and it was 67% cheaer than the FS option - which is a big price difference.

I thought I can keep it to a 4k drain interval, but your interval of 2.5k max is on the lower side. Are you being extra cautious or is that generally the max drain interval you have felt a SS will give it's best performance at?

Car engine oils are comparatively different then motorcycle engine oils. Cars have a separate gearbox and the engine is separate, both use different oils. In a motorcycle, a single oil lubricates the engine, and the gearbox, and the oil is put to extreme thermal and molecular stresses which in turn reduce the life of the engine oil, that's why it's recommended to replace the engine oil early. I replace my car engine oil at 5 to 6k appox, while keeping a tab on the oil condition, on the bike it's 2.5k max irrespective of the brand.

Cheers!
VJ