Helmets

[srinath2494]

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1. Please make use of proper punctuation and sort the reply in a readable format.
2. No scratch doesn't necessarily mean no damage. Assume I kick someone hard in the gut, he may look ok from the skin but may have ruptured tissues within.
3. Sunny (the guy who replied to you) has good knowledge in helmets and riding gear to say the least. So, take what he suggests in a positive way.
4. We're all glad that you didn't hammer your helmet but I'm scared what if that show piece which you hammered is sold to someone else?

hello,

1.i am using mobile browser and typing is lil difficult. i am making corrections whenever i find a mistake. please bear with it.

2.sir, indeed what youre saying is right. how can i test another helmet which is taken out from the stocks inside? its a new one by the same brand which would have passed the tests. so i have to hope for the best after having seen a helmet by the same brand being tested. i tried my best to check its padding inside and shell outside. it was a lot better than the test helmet

3.i am not offended by any posts/replies and since im a beginner i will only learn from people out here

4.since youre asking about the test helmet, i would like to add these points. first it had one of my favorite colors(blue) and i wanted it. but the shopkeeper strictly rejected it saying its only for display and it can't be sold. after it suffered from considerable amount of scratches/ damages due to testing, i saw him taking it away from the show case and putting it on the damaged lot which was kept on one side of the shop. if youre still doubting the shop, then i suggest you to visit it. because, we can also allege that even the top shops are repairing/ embellishing the damaged helmets behind their godowns and selling them to us. and it applies for anything we buy as consumers right? after all, that shop wasn't all that cheap and poor if there is any reported case of failure of helmets sold from that shops then they would be taken care of by the consumer and the law right?

thanks

[Divya Sharan]

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hello,

1.i am using mobile browser and typing is lil difficult. i am making corrections whenever i find a mistake. please bear with it.

No offence, but you're requested to go through http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/forum-an...tiquettes.html
Nobody cares if you're on a mobile or a tablet or PC. Every one has to post readable content since this is an open forum.

2.sir, indeed what youre saying is right. how can i test another helmet which is taken out from the stocks inside? its a new one by the same brand which would have passed the tests. so i have to hope for the best after having seen a helmet by the same brand being tested. i tried my best to check its padding inside and shell outside. it was a lot better than the test helmet

Let's hope your helmet serves you good.

3.i am not offended by any posts/replies and since im a beginner i will only learn from people out here

That's the way to go!


4.since youre asking about the test helmet, i would like to add these points. first it had one of my favorite colors(blue) and i wanted it. but the shopkeeper strictly rejected it saying its only for display and it can't be sold. after it suffered from considerable amount of scratches/ damages due to testing, i saw him taking it away from the show case and putting it on the damaged lot which was kept on one side of the shop. if youre still doubting the shop, then i suggest you to visit it. because, we can also allege that even the top shops are repairing/ embellishing the damaged helmets behind their godowns and selling them to us. and it applies for anything we buy as consumers right? after all, that shop wasn't all that cheap and poor if there is any reported case of failure of helmets sold from that shops then they would be taken care of by the consumer and the law right?

Complaints and law take their own sweet time. Anyways, it's for everyone benefit that any damaged helmet isn't sold to anyone anywhere in the country/world.

Replied inline in bold. (Not to be confused with shouting)

[srinath2494]

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Replied inline in bold. (Not to be confused with shouting)

replies noted, thanks!

[AK3D]

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@mods : Its a humble request, please please delete the search option. Being a software graduate, I feel sorry for those who did the coding for that simple blank box above each page.

Guys, please go ahead and ask question which has been answered n number of times. We all are here to help you, even if we have to repeat that 1000 times.

Yes, we love helping out members again and again. Members, please repeat the same question so that we remember it even in our dreams. After all, what is a forum for, if not to help other members

Hey prateek i wanted to know some gud helmets between 2500 to 3500 for me . I ride a ktm duke 200 (white).Pls help me .

Thank you for asking Prateek, he is a very helpful member, and will surely take time to search through the thread for you to decide on the helmet you require.

So i got my aaron helmet matching my bike's color the shop keeper let me test it by hitting it with a wooden hammer both on shell and visor. it was sturdy and was resilient. hope it is durable and protective.

I've heard hitting them with a metal hammer is better. That way you can ensure the helmet meets even the tough Snell M2005 standards.

[coolmaverickguy]

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hello brothers, i need bit of help regarding a particular helmet.

Does anyone own "MT BLADE REBORN" or "MT BLADE SERIES HEMLET" of Size XL.

According to the helmet size chart my head size is 62cm which is XL. Can anyone please show me the image of measurement of mt blade upside down from ear to ear [ my old one is 8.5 inch wide] and from chin to back of head [my old one is 10.5 inch wide].

its bit odd way to measure a helmet but as i live in Bhubaneswar so ihv limited option. kolkata - bp rodies, he is not replying. the next option are either Mumbai, Bangalore or Chennai. just want to make sure some small measurement so that i wont have to opt for exchange and all
have written the same thing to spartanprogear yesterday. I thought if someone here already own it i may get a quicker reply

Cheers

[AK3D]

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its bit odd way to measure a helmet but as i live in Bhubaneswar so ihv limited option.

Shell and liner sizings are different for various helmets. You need to measure your own cranium from the forehead to the back of the head and see what helmet size fits you. AFAIK, the MT helmets run close to their sizes and if your head circumference is 62, buy that size. Ensure the helmet is a snug fit, that's most important.

[prateek2210]

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@AK3D , @TranquilRage : Yes yes why not, I will do all the work for these guys, if they ask, I will even come and deliver the helmet. Searching the thread fro same thing again and again is fun after all, specially for old members like us.

People who asked for help. why are you guys wasting so much money on branded helmets? The roadside helmets will be enough, they will save your head by taking all the impact, as they itself will change their shape into a sponge type material.

And these motocross helmets, I mean they are the best helmets for street, I guess MotoGP and Isle of ManTT should start using it , and ditch the full face helmet. And yes, they should make it mandatory to use same color as that of bike, after all the design doesnt matter. It should look good, whether it saves you or not, who cares!!!

And yes, I found all this info after using the "Search" feature here. Must say, very helpful it is.

[srinath2494]

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@AK3D , @TranquilRage : Yes yes why not, I will do all the work for these guys, if they ask, I will even come and deliver the helmet. Searching the thread fro same thing again and again is fun after all, specially for old members like us.

People who asked for help. why are you guys wasting so much money on branded helmets? The roadside helmets will be enough, they will save your head by taking all the impact, as they itself will change their shape into a sponge type material.

And these motocross helmets, I mean they are the best helmets for street, I guess MotoGP and Isle of ManTT should start using it , and ditch the full face helmet. And yes, they should make it mandatory to use same color as that of bike, after all the design doesnt matter. It should look good, whether it saves you or not, who cares!!!

And yes, I found all this info after using the "Search" feature here. Must say, very helpful it is.

Hello,

Oh sir, please. I dont know about the search bar thing that youre fed up of. But I can very well notice that youre mocking about the off road kind of helmet posts. I never expected such sarcastic reply from an 'old member' as you call yourself.
I might not be an expert in choosing my helmet but I dont find anything wrong in going for it. You would ride your bikes and use them like the GP racers and vroom through the roads with high velocity like the man of isle tt racers, but for a mere beginner like me who has just got his first bike, even a basic model of full faced helmet would do. Although my helmet is of motocross type, I think it ll be just fine for my use for I have started riding bikes only recently. I felt this helmet had better ventilation when I tried it. For the roads we have, the choice of my helmet is more than enough for it will still protect my skull. I havent bought any road side helmet. It indeed was branded and there were many references in this very thread about this brand. Also, I saw that it has better protection against the sun rays falling directly on the visor, which would be helpful in the city roads. Moreover for beginners like me something fancier will definitely be of no harm, for it will only encourage us in riding more and upgrading to better options or the options that you consider sensible and are not meant to be mocked at.

Any typical youth would love to show off his helmet and bike and its absolutely a personal preference to match the color of the helmet with the bike. Is there a reason why you ve decorated your bike for that kind of a look other than you just liking it? Is it for the good of the country or any other passer by? Getting a helmet with preferred color doesnt mean that the person has compromised on quality. Also you should note that even the top branded helmets have failed and the case of failure is not an exception only to colored and animated helmets of smaller brands. I always mentioned that I was keen on quality and that the test was a result of my interrogating the shop keeper. If you can hope that your helmet can save you when you fall (without considering/ knowing the failure in the brand), then any person can hope the same with their helmet. Definitely, I feel its more than enough for our road conditions.

I know how it is boring for you to keep answering questions but that doesnt mean you have to be blatantly sarcastic. It would be of no use to show off your pride of being an old member in a sarcastic way. You would command more respect if youre polite too. It is actually be discouraging for beginners like me. Hope you understand and end this then and there. It would be better not to respond to queries / posts if you feel youre bored and the posts appear silly to you.

Thanks.

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Hello,

Off Topic: Also sir I happened to read our forum ettiquettes suggested by one of the moderators in the previous posts and it cited the following

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Few live examples from the forum, which will help you understand and refrain from posting in the same manner.

Eg 1 – Sms Language or Short Forms
Have remved it! nice tip bro!
yeah the sound is cool…..somewahat like a mild versn of the k&nsnd
is der really an issue of overheating??
and if der is it may mean that da bike is getting lean,and if so means that remvng it increases air flow to an extent?????????????
hey and what about water during da rains it could get into the airbox??Eg 2 – Provocative post or post which may hurt others sentiments
Test driven cbr 250r yesterday and i wasn't much impressed personally.Because It felt too light.The brakes were pretty sharp.It felt more like riding a yamaha r-15 and its nowhere like a ninja, Ninja feels stable and rock steady,a feeling which i never get in yamaha r-15 and din't get in a CBR either.They r nimble bikes, easy to flick around in city traffic.CBR's pick up is better than ninja,but then i feel u don't need so much.Ninja's pick up is just right for our roads..And i definitely dont think a cbr comes anywer close to ninja in the looks department.CBR looks all fancy,Whereas a ninja looks mean .Basically if u like yr motorcycle light,sleek,flickableu'd like a cbr but if u like yr bike solid,stable and planted u'd love a ninja more.Eg 3 – Using Fillers just to increase the length of the post
Totally agreeeee with you bro……………….. Well Done………….

sir, being senior members and posting something very sarcastic just matches with the EG2 of the forum ettiquettes which shows posts that can hurt others sentiment. When you yourselves do like this, how can you expect beginners or any other members to refrain from asking mere queries or sharing information that appear great to them?As I have mentioned, you can very well choose to ignore them politely right? I'm not being judgemental or trying to prove anything here. Its just that we beginners need more motivation and encouragement and I strongly feel its my right to ask for it.

thanks

[prateek2210]

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@srinath2494 : I would love to answer to your above post, but honestly I would choose to ignore your post for a very simple reason. You, before jumping to conclusion about your motocross helmet didn't search what it is actually meant for. And what other better options you had in the same price range. All I can say, is all the best for your new bike and new helmet.

And yes, thanks for informing us that being a newbie you can opt for Motocross helmet as it save your eyes from Sun Rays. And heart felt thanks to judge about me that I ride like GP racers

[AK3D]

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Oh sir, please. I dont know about the search bar thing that youre fed up of. But I can very well notice that youre mocking about the off road kind of helmet posts. I never expected such sarcastic reply from an 'old member' as you call yourself.

Can't help it, everyone is jaded with the same questions again and again. We have no idea why people want to be spoonfed even though the information is there in the thread. All one needs do is read.

I might not be an expert in choosing my helmet but I dont find anything wrong in going for it. You would ride your bikes and use them like the GP racers and vroom through the roads with high velocity like the man of isle tt racers, but for a mere beginner like me who has just got his first bike, even a basic model of full faced helmet would do. Although my helmet is of motocross type, I think it ll be just fine for my use for I have started riding bikes only recently. I felt this helmet had better ventilation when I tried it. For the roads we have, the choice of my helmet is more than enough for it will still protect my skull.

You are so wrong here my friend. A full face helmet is not meant for racing on the streets, neither is a motocross helmet for that matter. However, they both have their purposes. A Motocross helmet is used mostly offroad, where you don't have a hard road coming up to your face. Simply put, a good full face helmet is meant to protect your noggin in case of a crash (and your face as well). We have several pictures (and stories) and some in this thread, that these motocross helmets are NO use on the road.
Here's an example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHj-QCt5vNY

If you have a crash, God forbid, and the front caves in, there is no protection at all. Please do a google search before reaching any conclusions. You will yourself wonder why you chose this in the first place, without any research.

I havent bought any road side helmet. It indeed was branded and there were many references in this very thread about this brand. Also, I saw that it has better protection against the sun rays falling directly on the visor, which would be helpful in the city roads. Moreover for beginners like me something fancier will definitely be of no harm, for it will only encourage us in riding more and upgrading to better options or the options that you consider sensible and are not meant to be mocked at.

You must understand you're not being mocked. XBHP as a community promotes safe riding and good riding gears at a particular budget. Now, when a member refuses to read, and prefers to argue instead about the merits or demerits of his selection, people are bound to give up. It's your head after all. You can buy as fancy a helmet you want to, everyone loves a style of their own choosing, but the fact that you used a 'hammer' test for your helmet, boggled the imagination.

Any typical youth would love to show off his helmet and bike and its absolutely a personal preference to match the color of the helmet with the bike. Is there a reason why you ve decorated your bike for that kind of a look other than you just liking it? Is it for the good of the country or any other passer by? Getting a helmet with preferred color doesnt mean that the person has compromised on quality. Also you should note that even the top branded helmets have failed and the case of failure is not an exception only to colored and animated helmets of smaller brands. I always mentioned that I was keen on quality and that the test was a result of my interrogating the shop keeper. If you can hope that your helmet can save you when you fall (without considering/ knowing the failure in the brand), then any person can hope the same with their helmet. Definitely, I feel its more than enough for our road conditions.

Again, you fail to understand that there are better options in your budget range (and with all the necessary colours you require at your price point). Namely Studds Scorpion or Studds Shifter as just two examples. These offer much better protection than a motocross helmet. Please don't take this so personally. You are well worded, from what you've written, and I hope you have the better sense not to get offended and take this in the right spirit.

I know how it is boring for you to keep answering questions but that doesnt mean you have to be blatantly sarcastic. It would be of no use to show off your pride of being an old member in a sarcastic way. You would command more respect if youre polite too. It is actually be discouraging for beginners like me. Hope you understand and end this then and there. It would be better not to respond to queries / posts if you feel youre bored and the posts appear silly to you.

People repeatedly ask the same questions over and over again. Is it too much to ask to follow a thread and read the interesting bits, page after page? There has been SO much covered about helmets and safety in the thread, yet, people jump in on the last page and enthusiastically start asking questions without bothering about all the information provided on the earlier pages. I see that not just in the helmets thread, but many other threads, including the ZMA thread, where every other reply I give is "Please use the search function". It is things like these that put off many other seniors and make them shy away from helping.

Thanks.

I finally have only one bit of advise for you, it's up to you to take it or leave it. Please, if you value your head, go and exchange this helmet for a Studds Scorpion or a Shifter that fits on your head snugly.

[srinath2494]

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@srinath2494 : I would love to answer to your above post, but honestly I would choose to ignore your post for a very simple reason. You, before jumping to conclusion about your motocross helmet didn't search what it is actually meant for. And what other better options you had in the same price range. All I can say, is all the best for your new bike and new helmet.

And yes, thanks for informing us that being a newbie you can opt for Motocross helmet as it save your eyes from Sun Rays. And heart felt thanks to judge about me that I ride like GP racers

I never judged you raced like gp racers. I just meant you 'might' use your bike like that and opt for that kind of helmet or whatever bike suits your expertise or personal preference.

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I finally have only one bit of advise for you, it's up to you to take it or leave it. Please, if you value your head, go and exchange this helmet for a Studds Scorpion or a Shifter that fits on your head snugly.

Oh please dont start all over again. I have clearly mentioned that you seniors' way of replying was just disheartening to see as a beginner and to cite all those things I did in choosing my helmet was totally a personal preference for its my first ever bike and helmet and A LOT OF EXCITEMENT involved. Also in no way this helmet seemed to have been of low quality in serving the purpose. I do not use any harsh roads and I do not cross 40kmph mark often. So as I mentioned, when I upgrade, I would definitely get a different and better one as you mentioned. I saw shifter and it was in a cyan green kind of color without any other variety. Also the scorpion design was not appealing to me and again its a personal preference. So I would like to put an end to any other further argument because this is going no where and it appears to be a junior vs senior war to you. There is a long way to go for me and I would definitely take your inputs into considerations, Sir.

Thanks.

[prateek2210]

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Phhhewww banging my head against wall. And because of these type of arrogance and justification I would think twice before helping new guys. Atleast from my end, there wont be any help. Sorry

[Chandan92]

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Phhhewww banging my head against wall. And because of these type of arrogance and justification I would think twice before helping new guys. Atleast from my end, there wont be any help. Sorry

Sir,
Time will make him experience rider. And i know why are you saying all these things to him because this could have saved his own precious time if he had used search option. I myself have used motocross helmet and i know very well what consequences are even in low speeds but since its his personal choice so let it be its good that he is wearing atleast a helmet.

Ride safe

Sent from my HTC Desire 816 dual sim using xBhp Connect mobile app

[nadz11.ns]

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Sir,
Time will make him experience rider. And i know why are you saying all these things to him because this could have saved his own precious time if he had used search option. I myself have used motocross helmet and i know very well what consequences are even in low speeds but since its his personal choice so let it be its good that he is wearing atleast a helmet.

Ride safe

The problem is not with his choice here, but the members attitude when other's are trying to give him their honest advice. There is no senior or junior here, we all are xBhpians and there is no reason for anyone to make it so.
Its his choice in the end, I hope he doesn't have to experience the dark side to regret his choice.

[Anuj_Gupta]

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[MENTION=13887]prateek2210[/MENTION] "oh hello" sounds exactly like some girl addressing a person like oye hello mister ..
That said,sir ignore the monkeys you see while going through forests, if you get annoyed of them and decide not to go through anymore ,then who'll help cute rabbits like us [MENTION=73995]srinath2494[/MENTION], dude learn to respect someone ,even if you don't like him ,just simply say no and walk away ,with a attitude like this ,god forbid if you get involved in a road rash ,you'll surely get some taste of dirt.
And buddy ,I use my bike to rob banks ,but motocross got me arrested once .
policemen-what kind of helmet is this ?
Me- saar, it protects from sun and goes with colour of bike .plus it looks stylish too.
P- Is it safe ..?
Me- I dunno, but looks good though ..
P- ghana power ranger banke dol raha hai, chal thane tujhe moor banata hu.
And from that day ,I'm using a full face .protects good .
*mods pls delete this msg while you clean up the rest.