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@Anuj_Gupta : Who said about "all" riding jackets? And I hope you know what leather is :PFare thee well xBhp, All the best for being the biggest name in corporate world
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Thanks very much for your valuable replies [MENTION=39214]B7ACKTHORN[/MENTION], [MENTION=29015]Sunnyside_up![/MENTION] .
Well, i have dropped the idea of going for the fake A*, and was doing and a little bit of R&D around the internet and this thread looking for info on jackets under 6K. I wanted a all weather jacket (thermal liner is a must, rain liner doesn't matter), and have narrowed down to these :
* Cramster Breezer 4.0,
* DSG Phoenix,
* LS2 jacket :quoted at 5800 at the good old Lalbagh road, could make a bargain and get it for lesser price. But couldn't find reviews about ls2 jacket here.
Liked Spartan Helios and also DSG Nero, but these do not have a Thermal liner + the price.
I am very much inclined towards the Breezer and might go for that itself.
But, would like to seek a little advise from all you guys.
It's a lot like nuts and bolts - if the rider's nuts, the ride - bolts!
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Breezer is good for the price and like I was suggesting a fellow rider in Bangalore thread to avoid DSG for the next couple of months due to faulty stitch in recent batch, SPG Icarus and Cramster Breezer are your best bet. LS2 hasn't received much of a positive review, maybe [MENTION=61618]Team Torque[/MENTION] can give a one line review of the same though he's a genuine A* person.Originally posted by Sal View Post* Cramster Breezer 4.0,
* DSG Phoenix,
* LS2 jacket :quoted at 5800 at the good old Lalbagh road, could make a bargain and get it for lesser price. But couldn't find reviews about ls2 jacket here.
Liked Spartan Helios and also DSG Nero, but these do not have a Thermal liner + the price.
And yea, more importantly, both Helios and Nero has removable thermal liners. Rest is up to you.BENEATH THE REMAINS.........
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Remove the LS2 jacket from your list. Its not worth it, not at all.Originally posted by Sal View PostThanks very much for your valuable replies @B7ACKTHORN, @Sunnyside_up! .
Well, i have dropped the idea of going for the fake A*, and was doing and a little bit of R&D around the internet and this thread looking for info on jackets under 6K. I wanted a all weather jacket (thermal liner is a must, rain liner doesn't matter), and have narrowed down to these :
* Cramster Breezer 4.0,
* DSG Phoenix,
* LS2 jacket :quoted at 5800 at the good old Lalbagh road, could make a bargain and get it for lesser price. But couldn't find reviews about ls2 jacket here.
Liked Spartan Helios and also DSG Nero, but these do not have a Thermal liner + the price.
I am very much inclined towards the Breezer and might go for that itself.
But, would like to seek a little advise from all you guys.
At that price range the Cramster Breezer is the best buy. DSG Nero is also a good jacket but the only downside is the DSG customer support.
The Helios comes with the thermal liner but you have to pay extra for that and also it comes default with the Knox armour. If you can extend your budget then i will suggest you go for the Helios or else it's the Breezer for you.
Yeah my 100th post
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Originally posted by nadz11.ns View PostLeather come from...?
Animals.. Goats, cows etc etc..Leather as I and most of people know has its sources such as animals, crocs,goats etc but I never heard of cow and it's organ usage in leather making(not a user of leather products and used to avoid till now). And I'm planning to buy a riding jacket(collecting cash) But Will not/Cannot buy a leather jacket made of cow or its parts.Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post@Anuj_Gupta : Who said about "all" riding jackets? And I hope you know what leather is :P
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[MENTION=65015]Anuj_Gupta[/MENTION]:
Leather is is made by drying and treating the skin of animals.
How to Make Leather: 9 Steps - wikiHow
Does this mean you'll stop wearing leather shoes, belts and watches with a leather strap as well?
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I don't have leather shoe,purse,belt or any item AFAIK of my personal things. And yes if it contains cow parts, I won't wear it regardless of anything. But I can wear "other" leather items only when it's extremely necessary, ex-gears.Originally posted by nirvan View Post[MENTION=65015]Anuj_Gupta[/MENTION]:
Leather is is made by drying and treating the skin of animals.
How to Make Leather: 9 Steps - wikiHow
Does this mean you'll stop wearing leather shoes, belts and watches with a leather strap as well?
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Motorcycle leathers - gloves, jackets, pants and boots the world over are predominantly made with cow/bull hide for their high abrasion resistance qualities. Goat and sheep hide are used for softer areas like folds, joints etc. Kangaroo and stingray hide are the most premium because their abrasion resistance is even higher than cow hide.Originally posted by Anuj_Gupta View PostLeather as I and most of people know has its sources such as animals, crocs,goats etc but I never heard of cow and it's organ usage in leather making(not a user of leather products and used to avoid till now). And I'm planning to buy a riding jacket(collecting cash) But Will not/Cannot buy a leather jacket made of cow or its parts.
If you cannot use leather as a religious sentiment, I suggest you look at textile apparel made from Cordura fabrics and Aramide mesh only.
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Thanks VJ bhai...it works out a lot cheaper than buying a full leather riding jacket, and I can have it tailored to a perfect fit. Yes, armor pockets will be easy to incorporate and hopefully should fit better. My Cramster's arms are quite bulky and the armor tends to shfit around a bit, even when it is fastened at the tightest setting.Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View PostSecondly there is not a problem in designing your custom jacket, provided the seams are stitched in the right manner with good quality rip resistant theads, at least not easily. And then removable pockets for armors, perforations (if any) for ventilation. It's a very good idea, indeed I contemplated for the same and posted a review of it long back in this thread. But if you can get it done, I see no problems. But make sure it's done with proper supervision and the guy is experienced in what he's doing.
Not to mention the look-good factor when it comes to leather
Thinking of this design - simple and elegant.
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My dad had made a custom jacket (for my elder brother) few years back. It was really good and the looks were awesome. But that was soft leather one.Originally posted by bbsrailfan View PostThanks VJ bhai...it works out a lot cheaper than buying a full leather riding jacket, and I can have it tailored to a perfect fit. Yes, armor pockets will be easy to incorporate and hopefully should fit better. My Cramster's arms are quite bulky and the armor tends to shfit around a bit, even when it is fastened at the tightest setting.
Not to mention the look-good factor when it comes to leather
This idea looks good. But the threads and the stitching would be important. And not to mention the armour. Do keep us updated if the plan is executed
Ride safe and have fun.
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Remove LS2 from the list. not good.Originally posted by Sal View PostThanks very much for your valuable replies @B7ACKTHORN, @Sunnyside_up! .
Well, i have dropped the idea of going for the fake A*, and was doing and a little bit of R&D around the internet and this thread looking for info on jackets under 6K. I wanted a all weather jacket (thermal liner is a must, rain liner doesn't matter), and have narrowed down to these :
* Cramster Breezer 4.0,
* DSG Phoenix,
* LS2 jacket :quoted at 5800 at the good old Lalbagh road, could make a bargain and get it for lesser price. But couldn't find reviews about ls2 jacket here.
Liked Spartan Helios and also DSG Nero, but these do not have a Thermal liner + the price.
I am very much inclined towards the Breezer and might go for that itself.
But, would like to seek a little advise from all you guys.
now since you want an all weather jacket, you must first decide whether you want a mesh jacket or a non-mesh jacket. mesh jacket will be better in summer and non-mesh will be better in winter. so decide accordingly.
DSG Nero has a thermal liner, you can check the website or call the Planet DSG guys. i am using one.
personally i liked nero better that phoenix & breezer.
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Thanks. Good to know that my ideas aren't lunatic hereOriginally posted by nadz11.ns View PostThis idea looks good. But the threads and the stitching would be important. And not to mention the armour. Do keep us updated if the plan is executed

I am planning to get the order placed in the 2nd week for Feb. Provided this works out well, the final delivery will be around 1st week of March. Will surely post reviews here
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Thanks. Good to know that my ideas aren't lunatic hereOriginally posted by nadz11.ns View PostThis idea looks good. But the threads and the stitching would be important. And not to mention the armour. Do keep us updated if the plan is executed

I am planning to get the order placed in the 2nd week for Feb. Provided this works out well, the final delivery will be around 1st week of March. Will surely post reviews here
Biking is not about how many Km/h you put on your Speedo. It's about how many miles you put on your Odo. Ride Safe, Ride Long!
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Originally posted by bbsrailfan View PostThanks VJ bhai...it works out a lot cheaper than buying a full leather riding jacket, and I can have it tailored to a perfect fit. Yes, armor pockets will be easy to incorporate and hopefully should fit better. My Cramster's arms are quite bulky and the armor tends to shfit around a bit, even when it is fastened at the tightest setting.
Not to mention the look-good factor when it comes to leather
Thinking of this design - simple and elegant.
Not at all a bad decision, as compared to a basic mesh and a leather jacket is, the advantages of leather is far superior when it comes to mesh, especially when one takes a spill and sees a gaping hole in his/her 6000 odd jacket, and what to do now? Dunk or ditch!
But that being said, leather will get scuffed and even give up a sacrificial layer when you take a slide, but the good news is it won't rip, which means you wake up, see your under arms, smile again, which big phew and ride off. Whereas it's totally the opposite, and I guess you should know it, at least by experience.
So if you feel it's right, go ahead, but make sure the stitches are well done and not clumsy job, because mesh rips, in the center or at the point of impact, leather will blow up the seams, the force or impact energy is all stressed on the seams, so make sure they are well stitched with good quality high tensile thread.
Cheers!
VJ
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One of my buddy has recently bought LS2. His body frame is more of XXL and his feedback was positive. Though as [MENTION=48174]chaosaddict[/MENTION] said, padding is not that great to rely upon. That being said, if you are looking for ultimate protection I would anyday prefer A*Originally posted by chaosaddict View PostLS2 hasn't received much of a positive review,
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Originally posted by chaosaddict View PostBreezer is good for the price and like I was suggesting a fellow rider in Bangalore thread to avoid DSG for the next couple of months due to faulty stitch in recent batch, SPG Icarus and Cramster Breezer are your best bet. LS2 hasn't received much of a positive review, maybe @Team Torque can give a one line review of the same though he's a genuine A* person.
And yea, more importantly, both Helios and Nero has removable thermal liners. Rest is up to you.Originally posted by Soul_Hunter View PostRemove the LS2 jacket from your list. Its not worth it, not at all.
At that price range the Cramster Breezer is the best buy. DSG Nero is also a good jacket but the only downside is the DSG customer support.
The Helios comes with the thermal liner but you have to pay extra for that and also it comes default with the Knox armour. If you can extend your budget then i will suggest you go for the Helios or else it's the Breezer for you.
Yeah my 100th post
Cheers
Originally posted by Team Torque View PostOne of my buddy has recently bought LS2. His body frame is more of XXL and his feedback was positive. Though as @chaosaddict said, padding is not that great to rely upon. That being said, if you are looking for ultimate protection I would anyday prefer A*
Originally posted by princesirohi View PostRemove LS2 from the list. not good.
now since you want an all weather jacket, you must first decide whether you want a mesh jacket or a non-mesh jacket. mesh jacket will be better in summer and non-mesh will be better in winter. so decide accordingly.
DSG Nero has a thermal liner, you can check the website or call the Planet DSG guys. i am using one.
personally i liked nero better that phoenix & breezer.
Thanks a lot for your replies mates
Guess, i would be going for the Breezer itself. However what are the Non-mesh jackets called? Are they called Cordura?
Mate, i had the similar idea of getting a custom leather jacket done, but couldn't find the right guy to do it.Originally posted by bbsrailfan View PostThanks. Good to know that my ideas aren't lunatic here
I am planning to get the order placed in the 2nd week for Feb. Provided this works out well, the final delivery will be around 1st week of March. Will surely post reviews here
I had a particular Jacket in my mind (Wolverine Origins jacket :P)
This one :
Had given the same idea to a friend of mine, and he had got it done (same pattern jacket) somewhere in Kerala, and the work done was flawless (but it was non-armored).
Could you tell me, if there is someone who could do it in Bangalore? And what about the armors, how to source them? Would SPG provide only armors?It's a lot like nuts and bolts - if the rider's nuts, the ride - bolts!
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