Universal : Riding Gear Thread

[NitinGirish]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Picked up TBG Street gloves just few minutes back from Lets Gear Up.

In my ride back to office (in my RX) which lasted for 10-15 mins, I noticed that the gloves are extremely comfortable.

I fell for its carbon fibre knuckle protectors. The other gloves I considered where Rynox (I forget the model name, but its a short cuff) and the A* Celera (?)

However, to check these out I had to ride to another end of the city and I don't have the luxury of time.

Thoroughly disappointed with TBG street gloves. Left Glove finger tips are torn in one year of use. Poor durability.

Need to buy another pair now. Please suggest what can I pick up for 5-6k?

Short cuff and leather construction are my requirements apart from ofcourse good quality knuckle protectors.

[Somesh1902]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Thoroughly disappointed with TBG street gloves. Left Glove finger tips are torn in one year of use. Poor durability.

Need to buy another pair now. Please suggest what can I pick up for 5-6k?

Short cuff and leather construction are my requirements apart from ofcourse good quality knuckle protectors.

Ypu can try these :- http://www.motoignite.com/product/shima-caliber/

Heard very good things about shima quality.

[Ave2592]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Thoroughly disappointed with TBG street gloves. Left Glove finger tips are torn in one year of use. Poor durability.

Need to buy another pair now. Please suggest what can I pick up for 5-6k?

Short cuff and leather construction are my requirements apart from ofcourse good quality knuckle protectors.

Have you tried the icon pursuit? Might try your luck in aliexpress too. Its bang for value. Had used it for 1.5 years. Plus it might save a few bucks if you get them in aliexpress. I assume half the price of your requirement.
The gloves were fine but getting new ones always fancies me. [emoji12]

[B7ACKTHORN]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Thoroughly disappointed with TBG street gloves. Left Glove finger tips are torn in one year of use. Poor durability.

Need to buy another pair now. Please suggest what can I pick up for 5-6k?

Short cuff and leather construction are my requirements apart from ofcourse good quality knuckle protectors.

From my experience, TBG are a hit or a miss in quality so is the case with most of their products, with a QC that is off the peg. You can definitely consider AGV and Scorpion from performanceracing. I'd also suggest you do have a look at Shima and Rynox and do have a look at Cramster, they offer decent products that are good VFM.

Cheers!
VJ

[somenath1061]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Thoroughly disappointed with TBG street gloves. Left Glove finger tips are torn in one year of use. Poor durability.

Need to buy another pair now. Please suggest what can I pick up for 5-6k?

Short cuff and leather construction are my requirements apart from ofcourse good quality knuckle protectors.

It's a good budget you got there. You can consider Held and alpinestar as well.

[somenath1061]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Hi,

I am unable to get Pinlock visor for my MT Revenge. Spartan Progear said they dont have a model which fits it. The show room guy here said its because when you slide the visor up there is not enough gap between the visor and the helmet shell for it to accomodate the Pinlock visor. He recommended the usage of Muc Off anti fog spray. According to him once sprayed the effect will stay for 3 to 4 days. A 30 ml bottle costs Rs. 900.

Has anyone used this product? Want to know the effectiveness...I am in Kochi and with torrential rain these past few weeks, my Sunday rides are at a standstill and when I can, I have to keep the helmet visor open a bit, otherwise it fogss up.

If spray is one way you can obviously try the shampoo trick. Easy, lasts 2-3 days and as cheap as they come. Pinlock 30 is available with smk helmets, not sure why Spartans don't have it. You may try to import it from pinlock directly. Or try to find another helmet visor which fits your helmet and a pinlock max vision.

[NitinGirish]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Thank You Gentlemen for all your suggestions. Will evaluate all options and buy next weekend. Shima does look good!

[MidnightEvil Parth]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Thank You Gentlemen for all your suggestions. Will evaluate all options and buy next weekend. Shima does look good!

Shima has impact protection from Poron XRD, very sweet. Also has a year of warranty. Just in case !

[MidnightEvil Parth]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

I have been using Raida Tourbine jacket extensively since quite sometime, I guess it's time for a short review.

Until then,
the specs say it comes fitted with Sastec armours level 2 ( really large size of armours, same size for elbow as well as shoulder).
Material is more like 600d, mesh is really good quality.
The design is especially very striking, and it even has Indian flag insignia on the arms.

Raida does mention the back unit is a foam 'pad' and can be changed to a protector from Sastec. I really appreciate them for this.

So this is now my summer jacket for the time being. Rains are almost here and I may be switching back to the touring jacket.

[Astrix]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Thoroughly disappointed with TBG street gloves. Left Glove finger tips are torn in one year of use. Poor durability.

Need to buy another pair now. Please suggest what can I pick up for 5-6k?

Short cuff and leather construction are my requirements apart from of course good quality knuckle protectors.

5-6k is a really good budget for gloves and you have a plethora of options to choose from.
On one hand, you have the imported ones such as Held, Alpinestar, Shima, Revit, etc. and on the other, you have Domestic brands like Cramster, Rynox, Spartan, etc.

I believe that most of the brand (Indian or EU) are eventually getting in manufactured from more or less the same places and thus the quality output would be more or less the same. However, there will be a huge disparity in the price. The foreign ones would, of course, be passing on the overheads to the end customer translating to a higher price. On the contrary domestic brands would be providing the same quality, if not better at a lesser price since the brands are from India the overheads are much lesser and also the supply chain is shorter and thus lesser margins to be distributed.

For Eg: Shima gloves using Knox SPS with outer stitching are provided at around 7500/- while the same is provided by domestic brands at half the price. No denying that Shima gloves do have a lot more technical aspects to the gloves which are not available in the domestic gloves. But the price is almost double.

Personally, I also prefer to use Indian products given an option which of course is reasonable. Hope this will help you take a call.

With regards to brands, you may look at Revit, Shima, Scorpion in the international ones and Cramster, Rynox, Spartan, RE (They have good gloves too) in the domestic ones. All these brands are quite there in the market and have proven their mettle. Always try them on before buying as comfort (Outer stitching is often more Comfi) and fit is one of the most important.

Hope this helps.

[apacherider]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Please suggest a good riding jacket under 8000 for daily use.. also suggest a good online site with emi option..

[MidnightEvil Parth]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

5-6k is a really good budget for gloves and you have a plethora of options to choose from.
On one hand, you have the imported ones such as Held, Alpinestar, Shima, Revit, etc. and on the other, you have Domestic brands like Cramster, Rynox, Spartan, etc.

I believe that most of the brand (Indian or EU) are eventually getting in manufactured from more or less the same places and thus the quality output would be more or less the same. However, there will be a huge disparity in the price. The foreign ones would, of course, be passing on the overheads to the end customer translating to a higher price. On the contrary domestic brands would be providing the same quality, if not better at a lesser price since the brands are from India the overheads are much lesser and also the supply chain is shorter and thus lesser margins to be distributed.

For Eg: Shima gloves using Knox SPS with outer stitching are provided at around 7500/- while the same is provided by domestic brands at half the price. No denying that Shima gloves do have a lot more technical aspects to the gloves which are not available in the domestic gloves. But the price is almost double.

Personally, I also prefer to use Indian products given an option which of course is reasonable. Hope this will help you take a call.

With regards to brands, you may look at Revit, Shima, Scorpion in the international ones and Cramster, Rynox, Spartan, RE (They have good gloves too) in the domestic ones. All these brands are quite there in the market and have proven their mettle. Always try them on before buying as comfort (Outer stitching is often more Comfi) and fit is one of the most important.

Hope this helps.

Shima RS1 has Knox sliders, others may have it too, but you have to keep in mind you are paying 7500 for goatskin leather which is much supple and durable compared to calf leather. Kangaroo is the best, no denying.

But regarding goat vs cow leather, the tensile, abrasion, sheer strength of leather be it goat or cow is dependent on the process it has been through for a specific end product.

Add to that XRD impact protection, ceramic covered fabric. These gloves are greatly abrasion resistant.
Not to mention CE certification.

About gloves, my favorites are Solace and Cramster in Indian brands, Shima and Joe Rocket in international brands.

[MidnightEvil Parth]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Please suggest a good riding jacket under 8000 for daily use.. also suggest a good online site with emi option..

I would suggest RideOn Opulent mesh jacket. This comes with a proper back protector and not an advertised back protector which turns out to be a foam, like other brands.

The armours on arms are level 1.
It also gets a woollen winter liner.

[Astrix]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

Shima RS1 has Knox sliders, others may have it too, but you have to keep in mind you are paying 7500 for goatskin leather which is much supple and durable compared to calf leather. Add to that XRD impact protection, ceramic covered fabric. These gloves are greatly abrasion resistant.
Not to mention CE certification.

About gloves, my favorites are Solace and Cramster in Indian brands, Shima and Joe Rocket in international brands.

No denying Shima are good as I said in my previous post too and yes they are CE certified too. Its just that the price is 7500+. For those with such budget it is a good product. But most foreign brands add overheads and addition in supply chain make the price higher.

but in the 4k mark, you get good gloves with Knox SPS in domestic brands and those are quite sufficient. One may save that extra 3K and invest in something else.

With regards to leather Kangaroo is the best (Knox gloves), then is Cow hide and then is goat hide. Infact goat hide is the cheapest leather, but most brands domestic - TBG Rynox Spartan Cramster all use goat hide..even Shima uses goat hide.

Eventually, 80% of the gloves is made up of leather and all brands use goat hide, so 7500 is a hard price to defend as compared to domestic brands but that's fair given the XRD protection and Super-Fabric (Ceramic Covered fabric as you mentioned).

I prefer Cramster Rynox Spartan for gloves in domestic brands (3k-4k)..Shima Scorpion Revit in the international brands (7k+)

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Please suggest a good riding jacket under 8000 for daily use.. also suggest a good online site with emi option..

You can make a pick as all brands are good.

If you ask me, I would recommend you to stick to Spartan Cramster Rynox, tried and tested brand!
Personally, have been using the Rynox Tornado pro jacket for a long time and it's an amazing jacket. Have been recommending this one for a long time. EMI options are available on Rynox's website too. Even Spartan provide an EMI option.

But trust me all are good, go out there and just make a pick as all here will have their own preferences. If you choose to go with the Rynox Tornado pro and plan to buy it from a dealer make sure you mention Tornado Pro 'L2' to the dealer as it comes with Knox Microlock Level 2 protectors now.

[neil.jericho]

Re: Universal : Riding Gear Thread

I would let you look at better shell quality instead of the armours here.
Level 1 is more than ready to take impacts, remember a level 1 protector inside a strong shell is better than a level 2 in a weak shell.

Talking about Rynox Storm evo, the jacket may be good, but it still doesn't use the type of mesh or the material you would expect looking at your gears background.

I would suggest you go with Rev'it jacket, mostly a level 2 like the Rev'it Tornado 2. (Seeflex level 2 armour on elbows and shoulder, back insert ready to be replaced by a level 2 seesoft). The material is polyrib with 1000d pwr shell. (Rev'it does not use cordura, and it hardly matters)

PWR is rev'it made own material, their own polyamide blend, which is mostly nylon. Even the mesh is 75d PWR mesh here.

Seeflex armour is totally next generation with great ventilation ! Nothing comes close to that thing in sheer ventilation, costly sure, but the armour is worth it. The weight is a little more, compared to the likes of Sastec armours though.

Another jacket brand you may look at is ScorpionEXO covert flannel jacket or other jackets from them.
Since you will be spending the bucks, look at the material denier, shell quality, look for double safety seam stitch, and the quality of mesh in shell.
Second, look at armour used, since you are buying it for sheer comfort and ventilation, the armour should be light, airy and flexible.

The armour used by Rynox is a knox microlock unit on the shoulder and elbows and a XY on back. Knox is heavy, almost comparable to the likes of seeflex, seesoft while the exact opposite is Sastec used by scorpion (very light), you can try that for yourself, don't believe my words.
Knox is good armour though.
The XY back protector, I haven't found any reliable sources telling me it's any good, though it passes the CE testing, which arguably many armours do, a little heavier than sastec, since you are already using one, you will know.


Attaching some pictures of Rev'it jacket for you. [ATTACH]241542[/ATTACH][ATTACH]241543[/ATTACH]

Excellent post, thanks for taking the time out to reply. Unfortunately I cant find Revit or Scorpion gear anywhere in Cochin! I will continue the hunt though and update the thread if there are any updates.