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  • #32
    Originally posted by MT01 View Post
    Well, I dont want to get in the battle of what is a SBK and what is not, but this and the bandit are the only bikes in the country that can do speeds of around 200 and take a beating at the hills.
    which looks like a bike to you bro that'll be more comfy on the hills and mountains and on rocky terrans..

    the BANDIT or the KAWASAKI (or the likes like the KAWASAKI pictured here)
    Last edited by rennycornelius; 08-14-2010, 05:35 PM.
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    • #33
      Originally posted by MT01 View Post
      Autocar India said when they road-tested the Honda CBR-1000-R(naked)
      The CB-1000 is a naked Motorcycle, it doesn't have a faired cousin, would insist you to get your basics right(or ask) before posting what you assume are facts.

      Originally posted by MT01 View Post
      Buddy, you need to check out this thread.
      http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/xbhp-vid...ted-areas.html
      @JAKRAP--What is your budget? More cc's won't hurt if you can stretch.

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      • #34
        Originally posted by MT01 View Post
        Buddy, you need to check out this thread.
        http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/xbhp-vid...ted-areas.html
        Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post
        The CB-1000 is a naked Motorcycle, it doesn't have a faired cousin, would insist you to get your basics right(or ask) before posting what you assume are facts.
        +1. There is a vast difference between CB1000 & CBR1000R. Have you actually seen both? If a guy named TenHut hears you comparing his CBR with a CB, I am sure he will put up a contract on you.

        Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post
        @JAKRAP--What is your budget? More cc's won't hurt if you can stretch.
        Jakrap has money coming out of his ears so budget is actually not a problem.
        Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience.

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        • #35
          Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post
          Jakrap has money coming out of his ears so budget is actually not a problem.
          Are bubbles available for the CB? anything after market?

          This is one Motorcycle which shall take most terrains with aplomb.

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          • #36
            YouTube - Comet GTR 650 220

            A video of a gt 650r i found off net.

            YouTube - Ninja 650R Top Speed 220 km/hr

            And a video of the ninja 650r.

            My opinion, that if the hyosung is able to ripp off enough nice amount of powerband and blast beyond 200 when need and cruise at 150 all day long (which is definately not possible on Mumbai roads) and at a relatively lesser price tag than the ninja 650r, there will be many takers. And this is quite seen from the above put up videos.
            The ninja does 220 with and air box mod and an arrow exhaust, while the hyo manages to do that without any mods. I must say, I'm impressed.
            A fact -- It takes more love to share the pillion seat, than to share the bed.

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            • #37
              Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post
              Hello Jakrap. Just now saw your query.

              1. Kawasaki 650 is like a tractor. The firing sounds as a cross between 250R and a bullet. This is a commuter / poser bike. Commuter because - No clip ons, no split seat and normal seating position. Poser because - It looks good and rides pathetic. Good for riders who just want to own a big cc bike.

              If bajaj launches this, the pricing will be around 5.5 - 5.75 Lakhs.

              This one will no way ride around 200 kmph but you can take it to Ladakh without any problem. That actually you can do on your 250R. Lots of riders have done Ladakh ride this year on R15.
              @Vishwas: he he.. How to trust you buddy! Seems like you indeed rode a bullet with a Ninja 650R sticker on it

              > It is a Sports Bike and not Super Sport! Hence no clip ons.
              > It rides amazing thats why people buy it for its touring abilites. I have one and in-spite of riding R6 & R1 for quite some time i am still sticking with my 650R.
              >I have myself touched 215 km/hr (135m/hr) and it still had some juice left. The speedo tops at 140m/hr. My bike is stock, i haven't even changed the muffler. Was using a Two Brother Exhaust but then it was too loud.

              You have to experience the torque of a 650R, take it for a spin, race it with a R6 and the likes and then decide which one you want to own

              FYI 650R can easily beat a R6 till 100m/hr and then off-course extra money pays off

              Breaking is amazingly Rock-Solid. Better than any other bike in the same class.

              A week back went with one of my friend who wanted to buy a 250R. It was 2009 model, just 1000 miles. I took it for a spin and felt like i was riding my CBZ back home
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              • #38
                Originally posted by cool_dude_sunn_y View Post
                FYI 650R can easily beat a R6 till 100m/hr and then off-course extra money pays off
                If someone can post some figures done by same rider on a track, I am sure results will have a difference.

                Breaking is amazingly Rock-Solid. Better than any other bike in the same class.
                Hope the same class includes SV's and not ZX's.
                Last edited by sheelpriye; 08-15-2010, 10:33 AM.

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                • #39
                  My responses inline. I know you are a big 650R fan etc etc, but some things just dont add up.

                  Originally posted by cool_dude_sunn_y View Post
                  @Vishwas: he he.. How to trust you buddy! Seems like you indeed rode a bullet with a Ninja 650R sticker on it

                  > It is a Sports Bike and not Super Sport! Hence no clip ons.

                  Is it that only supersports bikes have clip-ons? Well in that case, that makes my RTR a supersport. Wow!Anyway, 650R is a streetbike not a sports bike. If anything, the 250R is more inclined to sportiness than the 650R.


                  > It rides amazing thats why people buy it for its touring abilites. I have one and in-spite of riding R6 & R1 for quite some time i am still sticking with my 650R.

                  Inspite of having an R1 and an R6 , you still sided with the 650R? With all due respect to the 650R, I must say, love IS blind

                  >I have myself touched 215 km/hr (135m/hr) and it still had some juice left. The speedo tops at 140m/hr. My bike is stock, i haven't even changed the muffler. Was using a Two Brother Exhaust but then it was too loud.

                  You have to experience the torque of a 650R, take it for a spin, race it with a R6 and the likes and then decide which one you want to own

                  FYI 650R can easily beat a R6 till 100m/hr and then off-course extra money pays off

                  It has nothing to do with the money. Thats how the power band for R1/R6 bikes is. That make most of their power at the higher reaches of the tacho. Even so, its hard to believe R6 will not pwn a 650R at any speed.

                  Breaking is amazingly Rock-Solid. Better than any other bike in the same class.

                  A week back went with one of my friend who wanted to buy a 250R. It was 2009 model, just 1000 miles. I took it for a spin and felt like i was riding my CBZ back home

                  Whats your point? If you cant tell the difference between your CBZ back home and the 250R, I seriously doubt any of your other comments about
                  these two bikes are of any value.

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                  • #40
                    Originally posted by cool_dude_sunn_y View Post
                    @Vishwas: he he.. How to trust you buddy! Seems like you indeed rode a bullet with a Ninja 650R sticker on it

                    > It is a Sports Bike and not Super Sport! Hence no clip ons.
                    > It rides amazing thats why people buy it for its touring abilites. I have one and in-spite of riding R6 & R1 for quite some time i am still sticking with my 650R.
                    >I have myself touched 215 km/hr (135m/hr) and it still had some juice left. The speedo tops at 140m/hr. My bike is stock, i haven't even changed the muffler. Was using a Two Brother Exhaust but then it was too loud.

                    You have to experience the torque of a 650R, take it for a spin, race it with a R6 and the likes and then decide which one you want to own

                    FYI 650R can easily beat a R6 till 100m/hr and then off-course extra money pays off

                    Breaking is amazingly Rock-Solid. Better than any other bike in the same class.

                    A week back went with one of my friend who wanted to buy a 250R. It was 2009 model, just 1000 miles. I took it for a spin and felt like i was riding my CBZ back home
                    Its not about the money bro. Its about the power band. The 650R dies off at top end, and that's where the R6 becomes alive. There's a vast difference between the two. One is a super-sports (R6) and the other is a tourer (650R).

                    And for heavens sake, dont compare a 250R with a Cbz.
                    Last edited by nicky_cool_dude_2004; 08-15-2010, 02:56 PM. Reason: Added a point
                    A fact -- It takes more love to share the pillion seat, than to share the bed.

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                    • #41
                      Wooo..thats some serious discussion over the last two days. Thx guys.

                      @AntzBin, Are u sure these are figures but what I have seen for 2010 GT650R is 82bhp.

                      I do know that the JAPs normally quote the dry weight and others like Ducati,Triumph quote the wet weight. The dry weight is pretty useless. How abt the koreans. Is it dry or wet? If its wet, its just a 4kilo difference (if the kawi weight too is wet)

                      Originally posted by MT01
                      +1

                      The perfect SBK for off-roading, currently is the HyperMotard.
                      Or import a KTM.

                      Game on, buddy.
                      THe purpose is not offroading alone. It is an all purpose bike
                      1) Going to office everyday. Its just a 15 km ride and i normally go through the highway.
                      2) Weekend Ride. INcludes smooth tarmac as well as lil offroading
                      3) Give all those civics, skodas and accents a run for money on the highway. I tried doing it on my NInja 250R..but post 150 kmph i felt like a sitting duck
                      4) I would want to do a Ladakh on it.

                      Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post
                      The CB-1000 is a naked Motorcycle, it doesn't have a faired cousin, would insist you to get your basics right(or ask) before posting what you assume are facts.

                      @JAKRAP--What is your budget? More cc's won't hurt if you can stretch.

                      Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post
                      +1. There is a vast difference between CB1000 & CBR1000R. Have you actually seen both? If a guy named TenHut hears you comparing his CBR with a CB, I am sure he will put up a contract on you.

                      Jakrap has money coming out of his ears so budget is actually not a problem.
                      To all those whomsoever to it may concern ...am a POOR man (Read "NOT" TENHUT ). I have no income from other "sources" and i dont have the money to buy either the Ducati 696 or the CB1000 or the Bandit. If I do that, my folks might put a contract on me. THe max is a 650R/GT650R (5.5) before I sign the lifelong contract .
                      Do intend to raise around 35% of the capital requirements for the 650R by selling my existing Ninja 250R. If the bike can do a ladakh another 10% of the capital would be raised by selling my existing Enfield too!

                      The litre dream would be waiting till I am around 35 and provided i get the necessary clearances and i have the money (hopefully the duty too might come down) at that time.



                      Originally posted by nicky_cool_dude_2004 View Post
                      YouTube - Comet GTR 650 220

                      A video of a gt 650r i found off net.

                      YouTube - Ninja 650R Top Speed 220 km/hr

                      And a video of the ninja 650r.

                      My opinion, that if the hyosung is able to ripp off enough nice amount of powerband and blast beyond 200 when need and cruise at 150 all day long (which is definately not possible on Mumbai roads) and at a relatively lesser price tag than the ninja 650r, there will be many takers. And this is quite seen from the above put up videos.
                      The ninja does 220 with and air box mod and an arrow exhaust, while the hyo manages to do that without any mods. I must say, I'm impressed.
                      Thx mate, Yes mate am pretty impressed with the specs of the Hyosung for the price it comes at. THe only worry is the A.S.S and network of Dealerships! Moreover it has higher ground clearance 165mm than the Kawi at 145mm.
                      Last edited by JAKRAP; 08-16-2010, 03:25 AM.
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                      • #42
                        Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post
                        If someone can post some figures done by same rider on a track, I am sure results will have a difference.


                        Hope the same class includes SV's and not ZX's.
                        @Sheelpriye: I hope someone could post some figures but since i have the first hand experience i dont really care.

                        I have owned a 650R for 2 Years now and a R1 for 4 months, in addition i have ridden 3 different R6 for a pretty long period.

                        * When i commented about the braking, i did not include R1.

                        Originally posted by Hyperion View Post
                        My responses inline. I know you are a big 650R fan etc etc, but some things just dont add up.
                        @Hyperion: First of all i don't care about what you think about the facts! Facts will always remains the facts no matter what!

                        The problem here is that you and many other people start jumping the moment they think their fav brand is put down or something. I am a Honda fan first of all.

                        Don't think u r going to take the trouble of getting ur facts right and the only proof i can give you is attached below. Ninja 650R is a Sport Bike, see the picture below.



                        R6 is a high rev bike and an inline 4, it is no comparison to a 650R and 650R is faster till 100 miles/hr coz it is low rev and has amazing mid level torque. R1 then again is a total different ball game, R1 is low rev and an amazing bike but it cannot be ridden everyday some 50 miles without feeling tired.

                        Flicking a 650R is a dream and handling is exactly like my CBZ.

                        You don't have believe anything i say buddy, if u had the first hand experience we wouldn't have been arguing at the first place

                        If i have to choose between a CBZ and a 650R, i will still choose my CBZ. "Love is indeed blind", only the lucky ones get to experience it

                        Originally posted by nicky_cool_dude_2004 View Post
                        Its not about the money bro. Its about the power band. The 650R dies off at top end, and that's where the R6 becomes alive. There's a vast difference between the two. One is a super-sports (R6) and the other is a tourer (650R).

                        And for heavens sake, dont compare a 250R with a Cbz.
                        @nicky_cool_dude: I agree buddy there is no comparison, i wasn't even trying. he he .. I was just being relative, coz thats how i felt after being on my 650R all the time
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                        • #43
                          Originally posted by cool_dude_sunn_y View Post

                          @Hyperion: First of all i don't care about what you think about the facts! Facts will always remains the facts no matter what!

                          The problem here is that you and many other people start jumping the moment they think their fav brand is put down or something.
                          Right back at you !

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                          • #44
                            Originally posted by Hyperion View Post
                            Right back at you !
                            he he .. But for what!

                            I was writing about my experience and not asking you if you believe it or not!
                            Nothing is IMPOSSIBLE - The word itself says I M POSSIBLE.

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                            • #45
                              Originally posted by JAKRAP View Post
                              Do intend to raise around 35% of the capital requirements for the 650R by selling my existing Ninja 250R. If the bike can do a ladakh another 10% of the capital would be raised by selling my existing Enfield too!

                              The litre dream would be waiting till I am around 35 and provided i get the necessary clearances and i have the money (hopefully the duty too might come down) at that time.
                              The best way for you would be to take your ninja 250r to Ladakh first and then sale it off.
                              Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience.

                              Check out my Ladakh travelogue - Ladakh Ride 2010

                              If you are getting bored with nothing to do in office check out my Rajasthan travelogue - Rajasthan Ride 2012

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