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  • #76
    Oh, I forgot to also express my opinion on the original subject of the thread for you learned Gentlemen.

    Both Kawasaki 650R and Hyusong 650R are Euro-III compliant and can enter India after other homologation formalities are completed. There should be at least a gap of Rs. 1.4-1.5 lakh to justify Hyusong 650R in comparison of Kawasaki. Fazer800 (with 779 cc engine) can be a Yamaha answer to both of them.

    Forget about R6 or CBR 600 RR. They don't meet the Indian requirements unless Govt. totally ignores domestic lobby and lowers the limit from 800 cc to 400 cc.

    I need a bike upto 300 cc only. So, I am not the affected party. I am now off this thread.
    Last edited by Technician; 08-17-2010, 06:36 PM.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post
      I have quoted your earlier post in total. You have claimed that - 'FYI 650R can easily beat a R6 till 100m/hr and then off-course extra money pays off ' and now you are claiming - 'I should be crazy (which i am not) to claim that a 650R (parallel twin) is faster than R6 (4 in line) in straight line!!.' You are again writing in the next para as - 'And not to forget in case of a R6 u have twist it a little more further'

      I think you are confused about exactly why and what you are arguing about. Here you are again writing that Beating same category bikes to 100 on a normal road is a days work. By what stretch of your imagination is R6 and 650R in the same category?

      I get pissed off when people make comments without understanding what they are writing and then try to defend an undefensible position.
      @trustvishwas: You got issues buddy and on top of that you are not able to decode my line and i always thought that it was me who sucked at english

      You can keep quoting what i said, but let me try once again to make it clear and rephrase myself:

      FYI 650R can easily beat a R6 till 100m/hr and then off-course extra money pays off means ... 650R bahut aasani se R6 ko pachaad sakta hai 100m/hr aur uske baad offcourse R6 aage nikal jayega. R6 mehnga hai kyonki woh ek high performance race machine hai and a stock one tops at 170 m/hr. [Yahan maine kahin nahin bola ki mein R6 ke saath race track pe race lagata hoon. I haven't even seen a race track yet]

      I should be crazy (which i am not) to claim that a 650R (parallel twin) is faster than R6 (4 in line) in straight line!!.' ... Even an idiot knows that, need i say anything

      And not to forget in case of a R6 u have twist it a little more further ... R6 will reach the same speeds as 650R but at a higher RPM and thats what i meant .. My bad that i thought u would interpret that!

      I get pissed off when people make comments without understanding what they are writing and then try to defend an undefensible position.
      Exactly ... I tried going back in this discussion and trying to read again what you wrote about how many 650R/R6 you have raced but couldn't find it ?
      BTW i dont give a crap about people with issues getting pissed, i more kinda like instigating them

      Originally posted by Hyperion View Post
      Thats what I call a flip-180.
      I would agree if i had flipped, but i dint. And if i could bring my 650R to India, i would ride down to where ever you guys are and show you what i mean


      Originally posted by Hyperion View Post
      True, when some people consider this forum as a trustworthy source of information.
      .. he he

      Originally posted by Technician View Post
      @ CDS - Bhai, kya musibat mol le li. Why to offer your experience to the people who are not receptive to your ideas and opinion even when you have qualified them with certain conditions lately.

      There are many flaws and outright inflamatory remarks in the comments of others but just leave this thread and share you valuable experience with those who are eager, and who can receive some guestimate opinion also.
      I know man, i try not if i don't know but this time since i had some experience so shared and what an experience ;p

      Originally posted by JAKRAP View Post
      Mate there is nothing wrong being said about CDS here. Dont take it personal.
      CDS has expressed some opinion which has shaken up some superbikers on the forum.
      To be explicit he siad that the 650R is faster than an R6 till 0-100mph. But the facts are against him as vishwas pointed out. I would love to have believed him too (infact think abt all those guys who spend so much money on an R6 and getting beaten by a 650R. I would have loved it if i had a 650R)
      Then he has comeback and put a caveat that it is in traffic conditions. I would definitely agree on that. Read my post above. But then he would need to clarify what kind of traffic conditions he is talking about. Different people have different ways of interpreting the same scenario. (India has too much diversity for its own good sometimes)

      As long as he can defend himself on his opinions he is welcome to do so and we are all ears.
      Yup .. Its all good. We are all individuals and are bound to have difference of opinion
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      • #78
        Guys, back off. I don't want a flame war. Please get back on topic.
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        • #79
          Originally posted by MT01
          +1

          The perfect SBK for off-roading, currently is the HyperMotard.
          Or import a KTM.
          Hypermotards are SBKs!!! roflmao


          Originally posted by TenHut View Post
          I think Hyosung should be given a chance ! I too read somewhere that they used to supply engines to Suzuki for quite a loong time. Dont bash up the Hyosung...the Japs were equally bashed in the 1970s and 1980s for their quality and look where they r today !
          +100, I'll buy a hyosung without thinking thrice.
          Last edited by spiderweb; 08-17-2010, 09:14 PM.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Technician View Post
            (what you people call them Autobahn or what in America) till the speedo shows figures equivalent to 100kmph in miles or so.
            Run while you can .The germans are bound to get you soon. The Autobahn is in Germany! (There are some in swiss and Austria too)

            Read CSD's posts carefully..He says 100mph and not 100kmph

            Originally posted by Technician View Post
            Also, @ Jakrap - Please don't make such statements as this smells of racism and may earn you a good censure in future. 99.99% of XBHP constitue such souls only.
            Well mate..only thing I can say to you on this is..go through the thread again. You can understand who is the poor man in question (thats me).
            That was my attempt on a self deprecating bit of humor.

            And by the way get your facts right on what racism is in the first place.

            The term "racial discrimination" (racism) shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.

            If this may aid your understanding...THe Rich vs Poor has never been termed racism. It is called snobbism


            Originally posted by cool_dude_sunn_y View Post

            Yup .. Its all good. We are all individuals and are bound to have difference of opinion
            We good mate. Infact, i never said anything against your opinion in the first place!. Infact would love to hear more about your experinec on the 650R in terms of the ride quality and maintenance issues.
            Last edited by JAKRAP; 08-17-2010, 09:33 PM.
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            • #81
              Originally posted by rossiter View Post
              Guys, back off. I don't want a flame war. Please get back on topic.
              Damn .. I thought probably i would finally have some decent number of posts in my name and you r telling to stop it

              Just kidding, its all good. Nothing more from my side

              And how i wish we had roads as good as autobahn in India .. !!
              Last edited by cool_dude_sunn_y; 08-17-2010, 09:35 PM.
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              • #82
                ^^Thank you. Any more post on the R6 vs 650R will be deleted without any intimation.
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                • #83
                  If this may aid your understanding...THe Rich vs Poor has never been termed racism. It is called snobbism

                  OT - Thank you, Sir.
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                  • #84
                    I Used the comet gt250 for 14000 kms I can say quality is not that bad,I never suffered any issues,I will love to grab a gt650r.
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by sudipta_roy View Post
                      I Used the comet gt250 for 14000 kms I can say quality is not that bad,I never suffered any issues,I will love to grab a gt650r.
                      Sudipta, the main complaints found across the net on the GT650R is mainly on the build issues especially
                      1) Brakes
                      2) Brake Pads
                      3) Quality of the plastic
                      4) Parts falling off
                      But i bet they have been ironing out these issues over the last 3-4 years and 2010 bike is got good reviews thou they still need to match up to Kawi and suzuki.

                      Did you feel that any of these issues when you had your comet. I understand that you had a GT250 (so the quality of plastic might not apply). THanks
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                      • #86
                        We did take two GT650Rs around Australoia and subjected them to ample torture for 23,000kms, none of the quality issues came up.
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Sunny View Post
                          We did take two GT650Rs around Australoia and subjected them to ample torture for 23,000kms, none of the quality issues came up.
                          When can we expect an xbhp Official GT650 Review & test-ride?

                          A damn interested in this bike...

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Sunny View Post
                            We did take two GT650Rs around Australoia and subjected them to ample torture for 23,000kms, none of the quality issues came up.
                            Right from the horses's mouth so to say.

                            based on BI report I think xbhp too should have a review on it if possible.
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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Sunny View Post
                              We did take two GT650Rs around Australoia and subjected them to ample torture for 23,000kms, none of the quality issues came up.
                              Sunny, Would you have a ride report on the same ( know am asking too much here) but if you have a link for the same would be very helpful
                              And was it post 2008 (2009/2010) models??
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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Sunny View Post
                                We did take two GT650Rs around Australoia and subjected them to ample torture for 23,000kms, none of the quality issues came up.
                                so how about a write up and review of the GT650R based on the Great Australian Roadtrip??

                                I'm sure it would be helpful for xBHP members who are all prepped to spend 4.5 lac on a bike.

                                It would also help with members not having to wait for reviews once the bike
                                is launched officially... sparing them from 90 to 150 day waiting periods.
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