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Sandeep, how are you? its long time you have posted on the thread. Great to see you back. Hope everything is fine with you.
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yes its true, but this is because of FI and some change in exhaust. when i was buying zmr their showroom manager told me that there is no mechanical change to the engine, except for a little tune- up.Originally posted by Satyamzma View Postthere is the difference ...the ZMR has .5 bhp more then ZMA
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The feel of ZMR is different from 60 to 100 kmph than the ZMA-R. The ZMR's 60-100 kmph timings are better with linear power curve due to FI; no flat spots or hiccups.
Also, due to FI, there will be no fuel wastage and ZMR delivers great mileage. ZMR delivers an FE of 47-50 kmpl at 70-80 kmph speeds on highways.HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
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i hardly get 38 overall mileage, i change gears at 4k.Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
Also, due to FI, there will be no fuel wastage and ZMR delivers great mileage. ZMR delivers an FE of 47-50 kmpl at 70-80 kmph speeds on highways."Biking is Divine"
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Anmol, I just quoted highway mileage and not overall combined mileage. The overall combined mileage for ZMA will be at 32-34 kmpl only. ZMR's fuel injection system will minimize the fuel loss at all rpm range. Did you ever calculate FE cruising at 70-80 kmph?? I used to get 40 kmpl at 70-80 kmph speeds with my ZMA. I am sure ZMR can give around 47 kmpl with same riding conditions. At 90-100 kmph speeds, it would deliver around 40 kmpl, where as ZMA gives around 34 kmpl.Originally posted by anmol_1990 View Posti hardly get 38 overall mileage, i change gears at 4k.HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor
Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats
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Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View PostAnmol, I just quoted highway mileage and not overall combined mileage. The overall combined mileage for ZMA will be at 32-34 kmpl only. ZMR's fuel injection system will minimize the fuel loss at all rpm range. Did you ever calculate FE cruising at 70-80 kmph?? I used to get 40 kmpl at 70-80 kmph speeds with my ZMA. I am sure ZMR can give around 47 kmpl with same riding conditions. At 90-100 kmph speeds, it would deliver around 40 kmpl, where as ZMA gives around 34 kmpl.
40kpl on a karizma zmr at 100kph speeds? You sure know how to crack a joke buddy
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I was referring to a specific bike (ZMR) in my statement (which has a fairing). Of course I have "heard" about something called leg-guard/crash guard.Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
Heard about something called leg-guard/crash guard?
Don't LOL too much, my friend. I had a nasty fall from my ZMR, but the fairing took the beating. I believe it did save my legs.Originally posted by krUnIzZlE View PostLOL, someone please explain to me how to fairing protects the legs????? LOLOLOLOLOOLOLOL
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I will take it that I have limited riding experience, and limiting motorcycle knowledge, compared to both of you. Having said that, I think I have read somewhere that body cowl/fairing DOES protect the rider in the event of a fall (to some extent). And I have experienced it.
Don't assume that the other person is an idiot before jumping on that keyboard. If you disagree, there are better ways to express that. Thank you.
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Aren't you underestimating the Honda's PGM-FI? I got 67kmpl at 70 kmph on highway with Stunner FI. I am sure ZMR gives 40 kmpl at 90-100 kmph highway cruising. With Stunner's experience and BI's test figures, I am assuming the above figures.Originally posted by RogueRider View Post40kpl on a karizma zmr at 100kph speeds? You sure know how to crack a joke buddy
I am ready to take my words back and stand corrected if ZMR owners say they are getting FE below 40 kmpl.HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
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Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats
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Originally posted by RogueRider View Post40kpl on a karizma zmr at 100kph speeds? You sure know how to crack a joke buddy
Buddy you are correct but RIDE it to BELIEVE it that you are incorrect.
In fact only time I went for a long drive in the Expressways in this 3500 kms till date the bike has given the best FE.
Myself was pretty stunned.
Originally posted by krUnIzZlE View PostLOL, someone please explain to me how to fairing protects the legs????? LOLOLOLOLOOLOLOL
Hey man, once you fall you realize that. Neither did I believe till my fall last week.34567 kms and ZMR sold :(
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True! If HH can use the FI mill in regular ZMA or ZMR without the fairing, it sells like hotcake. I am gonna right away sell my Dazzler and buy it.Originally posted by Satyamzma View Postso its actually a great bike delivering great efficiency even while riding at 100 kmph....best bike for tours and Highways
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Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor
Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats
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Originally posted by RogueRider View Post40kpl on a karizma zmr at 100kph speeds? You sure know how to crack a joke buddy
Rouge Rider: You sure dont know what a ZMR does buddy 'coz you dont ride oneOriginally posted by ravi@17bhp View PostTrue! If HH can use the FI mill in regular ZMA or ZMR without the fairing, it sells like hotcake. I am gonna right away sell my Dazzler and buy it.
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I have done a 156km dash @ 110kmph avg. on NH7 to Hyderabad got a FE of 38+kmpl so dude try it out once and comment on it
Ravi bhai sure told the right thing, only thing I dont understand is, how he can be that accurate with these FE numbers
All the wise men of the world are called wise only after they spoke their mind, so dont keep the ideas to yourselves!
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Don't you find the suspension/chassis/dynamics to be better on the Dazzler and yes the brakes too?Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View PostTrue! If HH can use the FI mill in regular ZMA or ZMR without the fairing, it sells like hotcake. I am gonna right away sell my Dazzler and buy it.
I am really not sure what FE P-220 gives with speeds hovering around 100kmph, but for sure the R15 manages 40kmpl if you don't exceed 110kmph.
Would personally prefer a Karizma with PGM-FI. Rest of the features aren't as important and I may(if I had to pick from HH) buy a ZMR, chuck its lower/belly-pan fairing and ride.
^^Haven't ridden the ZMR and my impressions are from Karizma-R. Sorry, but rear-disc brakes don't contribute much unto my braking.Last edited by sheelpriye; 09-15-2010, 11:18 AM.
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