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  • Please help me select my first bike.

    Hi All,

    After going through all the sites where I could compare bikes and read reviews about them, I think XBHP is the best place for doing so. Cheers to xbhp and its creators.

    I am a new member here. My height is ~6' and I weigh ~72kg.

    First of all, I apologize for writing a long requirement list. I just don't want to end up with a wrong bike and regret for choosing it.

    I am planning to buy my first bike (with budget of (100+-20)K) which could suit all my needs as mentioned below (in order of priority) -

    1- Should be comfortable for long trips on weekends (by long trips I mean 300 to 600 kms). Considering the fact that I work whole day sitting in front of a computer, my back tends to rest in a curved position. The point is I don't want any back pains after or during long rides. I do not want to damage my sitting posture permanently and hence I think it would be good to straighten my posture while riding my bike after long working hours. Would also need a comfortable pillion seat.

    2- Should be really great at speed, power, nice engine and handling.-
    max speed near 125Kmph (without any vibrations)
    engine-150 cc or above.
    power near 17 bhp
    Handling- like a good commuter. I would need to ride 27 kms through traffic jams every day to my office.

    3- Should look "class apart" among other vehicles on road. By this I dont mean to sound like atypical person, its just that I dont want to buy a bike which you can spot anywhere every time you hit the roads.

    4- Should have an avg. mileage . i.e not less than 30 kmpl

    I have considered various bikes and read a lot of reviews on each of them . I have deduced certain cons on each of my pre-final contestants (PFB in order of priority).

    Its really hard to find any negative review on following bikes (might be because bike owners rarely criticize their own bike or just because these bikes are really good)-(& bike owners of respective bikes- please dont get offended)

    1- Avenger 220(I dreamed of owning 1 for a really long time)- I had to drop idea of buying this because
    >> Its not really very comfortable for people with height more than 5'7 or 5'8. (and hence violates my highest priority clause by being uncomfortable)
    >> Bad for city traffics due to its length and really bad for sharp turns (many a times bike's silencer gets rubbed on taking sharp right turns)
    >> I have heard horror stories about Pro-biking and overall quality of parts (Odomtere, headlight, clutch wire and shocker going kaput).

    2- Pulsar 220- violates my "look apart" clause mentioned above.
    >>I dont mean to offend pulsar owners here. But I see 50% bikes on road with pulsar tags.
    >>I heard that Bajaj engines have a life period of 2 years. (My friends told me that you can easily spot diff between a old and new pulsar by just listening to the sound their engine makes)

    3- Apache RTR 180-Just loved the idea of having ABS in 2 wheelers. But -
    >> I heard Apache series vibrates on higher speed.
    >> And also, its not really comfortable for long rides.

    4- R15 & Karizma ZMR- have read great reviews about it. But I had to drop idea of buying this too because
    >> Sitting posture is too lean.(violates my clause 1)
    >> I also heard that R15's pillion seat is not so great.

    5- FZ16- Looks are really great. But I read from other reviews that it is-
    >> Low on power
    >> Low mileage
    >> Biggest problem is that my friend has the same bike and has the same colour which I like (black). So don't have this option left for me.

    6- Fazer - ditto (as it has the same specs as FZ16).

    Recently, I heard that Honda has launched its CBR 150R. I heard it would cost around 130K INR and also that its waiting period would be 4 months from the date of booking (which is atrocious ). I can stretch my budget to have this bike, provided that you pro-bikers give positive reviews about it.

    I do not claim to be sure of the aforementioned cons of each bike and hence, I request respective bike owners to correct me regarding the same. (I really need Avenger owners to tell me that all my cons on Avenger are wrong.)

    Bikers, please help me out here.

    Thanks and regards.
    The world stands apart for a man who knows where he is going.

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    • #3
      Fazer would suit your other requirements but after 80 the acceleration is not that good and top speed would reach 112kmph I guess. Why you don't have new P200NS in your options. It has everything you wanted and is refined too. Top speed of 136-140 would be more than enough for you.
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      • #4
        If u r going to ride predominantly alone R15 V2.0 is the best bet else Pulsar 200 NS meets ur requirements...
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        • #5
          what about the Karizma ZMA ?
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          • #6
            have a look at cbr 150 r.
            and the question remains why do i race?
            every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

            #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
            #overkill is underrated.
            #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
            #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

            (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Enthusiastic View Post
              Fazer would suit your other requirements but after 80 the acceleration is not that good and top speed would reach 112kmph I guess. Why you don't have new P200NS in your options. It has everything you wanted and is refined too. Top speed of 136-140 would be more than enough for you.

              For quite some time I did consider of buying Fazer but had to drop the idea because of the same reason- "not very good for high speeds".

              I don't have P200NS in my list coz I think it would be having same cons as P220. (please correct me if I am wrong here)
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              • #8
                Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                have a look at cbr 150 r.

                I know its not in the market now but I do need some more info regarding its mileage on Indian roads, handling and stuff...

                I am inclined towards buying this bike, but just wanted a consensus (from you guys) on whether its worth spending 130k or not.
                The world stands apart for a man who knows where he is going.

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                • #9
                  The Pulsar 200 NS engine is based on the KTM 200,so I don't think reliability should be of you're utmost concern.Also, the reviews sound very much promising regarding quality of the bike. Moreover, the newer pulsar 220s are a far cry from the earlier ones.Do wait for it and see.
                  As for the CBR150R, does all that the R15 does,has a better pillion seat,should give you good mileage and will hopefully remain a little exclusive due to it's slightly higher price alone.

                  Do wait for around a month and have a test ride of both these bikes
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by eliksir View Post
                    what about the Karizma ZMA ?
                    M not really sure about this but from what I can see from internet - Havn't they changed the name to ZMR??

                    and if its really diff than ZMR, Is it available in market?? (price?,specs?, comfort level w.r.t to zmr??)
                    Last edited by driver; 03-28-2012, 10:37 PM.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by driver View Post
                      I don't have P200NS in my list coz I think it would be having same cons as P220. (please correct me if I am wrong here)
                      Your are completely wrong here. P220 and P200NS are completely far apart and P200NS is miles ahead of P220 (apart from fairing, top-speed and projector lamps).
                      P200NS was created as a joint project by Bajaj & KTM to develop a common base of 200cc engine. So P200NS shares its common base with the Duke 200.
                      The bike engine is much more refined compared to P220. The review whatever I have read from the auto-experts are very good about the engine, looks features so its very unlikely that the bike would not last for several years.
                      The sound of the bike is awesome (from the videos I have seen).
                      You get a fresh model.
                      It does not look like a normal pulsar and you will have your "look apart" factor intact. It is the best looking naked sports bike in our country today with brutal acceleration claims. You should get around 35kmpl in the city as estimated.
                      You also get monoshocks, Bybre discs, nice digital speedo and lots of goodies.
                      Please checkout this video before going ahead to any other bike. This bike is sheer value for money. It looks underpriced even at 1lakhs

                      Pulsar 200NS
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                      • #12
                        All your requirements shout out one name....over and over again.

                        Motorcycling Experience:
                        2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                        2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                        2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                        2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                        2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                        2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                        The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                          All your requirements shout out one name....over and over again.


                          ^^ +1!! wow just by seeing that i wanna get my hands on it right away!!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by driver View Post
                            Havn't they changed the name to ZMR??
                            The ZMR is an improved ZMA with a lot of technology.

                            The ZMA (aka Karizma R) is still very much alive in the market, comes to around 85k on road and is a proven tourer. And that pic is of the ZMA.
                            CRAP Blog

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                            • #15
                              Why don't you consider Royal Enfield 350 Std it will suit your budget and very good for weekend trips very comfortable seating position and good pillon seat.
                              Even you cross 110+ the bike wont vibrate very reliable and proven machine.
                              FE above 30KMPL and a 350 classic look.

                              If you need a good reliable machine for weekend trips as well for city commuting RE will suit you the best. When you are concerned more on the looks you can extend your budget and go for RE Classic 350
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                              Yamaha RX135 (2000)
                              Bajaj Pulsar 150 (2004)
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