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  • #61
    pretty much every thing.. (which is not really possible I guess)

    As I have mentioned in my req. mail that it is my long lost dream of owning 1 Avenger (lost because of all the cons I have mentioned). And if all these cons are really true than I will drop avenger off my list.

    And now I am considering of including CBR 250R in my list for TDing too. (though I do need to go bankrupt for buying this..but wouldn't mind if its really worth it)
    Last edited by driver; 03-31-2012, 05:41 PM.
    The world stands apart for a man who knows where he is going.

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    • #62
      avenger 220
      Pros: Good mid-range power
      Low centre of gravity
      Stability at high speeds
      Wide seat with dual foam-density seat
      Low Battery indicator
      DC Ignition

      Cons: Engine smoothness is less
      Very stiff gear & clutch
      Very poor Rear brake
      Rear suspension is less effective
      and the question remains why do i race?
      every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

      #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
      #overkill is underrated.
      #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
      #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road
      (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by driver View Post
        pretty much every thing.. (which is not really possible I guess)

        As I have mentioned in my req. mail that it is my long lost dream of owning 1 Avenger (lost because of all the cons I have mentioned). And if all these cons are really true than I will drop avenger off my list.

        And now I am considering of including CBR 250R in my list for TDing too. (though I do need to go bankrupt for buying this..but wouldn't mind if its really worth it)
        My pick would be zma among the list it satiates all your needs( but remember ther is no useful update in it for long time)
        Avenger-under panic braking it fish tails like nothing ; let me tell you a disaster i cant forget in life my friend met an accident right infront of my eyes due to panic braking riding an avenger, ended up with multiple fractures ;braking seriously under rated ;It will not just let you feel like god but can also make you peep at god at times of panic braking;
        CBR 250 - Dude my sincere advice dont mind becoming bankrupt ,buying this one you wont regret ;the initial niggles that were present seem top ve been adressed (the cbr150 being a new lot you MIGHT end up in a first lot of bike which MAY have some niggles )Look how the customisation options by joel for this cbr is shaping up so if you want a ride to last with you for long time, gO the cbr250 way ; the day you find it less enthusiastic up the entertainment factor by going for some performance parts so hope this one will keep you happy on a long run;
        Last edited by raja_roadster; 03-31-2012, 06:06 PM.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by raja_roadster View Post
          My pick would be zma among the list it satiates all your needs( but remember ther is no useful update in it for long time)
          ZMA when updated is called ZMR they both are the same bikes(zmr is the result of updates made on ZMA they both are the same just like r15 and r15 v2) its just that the old karizma has got so much craze that hero decided not to phase it out

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Kalli12 View Post
            ZMA when updated is called ZMR they both are the same bikes(zmr is the result of updates made on ZMA they both are the same just like r15 and r15 v2) its just that the old karizma has got so much craze that hero decided not to phase it out
            ZMr 250 is on cards, so perhaps if u wish to wait you can as well
            M3:15

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            • #66
              Originally posted by worrisomebear View Post
              ZMr 250 is on cards, so perhaps if u wish to wait you can as well
              please share the link,i am super-excited.
              and the question remains why do i race?
              every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

              #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
              #overkill is underrated.
              #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
              #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road
              (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by driver View Post
                Gentle Reminder-
                Thread topic is - Please help me select my first bike.
                and not - Please start a debate over Karizma and go bananas. (I really didn't need all that kind of info but yeah you people certainly are amusing).




                Thnx Ankit...


                For those who still might care.. My final list is -

                1-CBR 150R
                2-P200NS
                3-Karizma R + ZMR (on people's demand)
                4-Avenger 220

                I think now only Test Drive of top 3 bikes will help me choose The One.

                @Other pro bikers (present or previous owners of Avy 220).. Please give me some good reasons of why I should (or should not) buy Avenger 220.
                My 1 rupee of openion .

                1- & 2- are not available yet so best bet is let them hit the road , wait 1 or 2 month to get results from owners & then decide . Don't follow any review blindly as i think its posted by only some hours experince while an owner can tell good story .

                3- as you don't like sitting position or so , so leave it cause once you buy & don't like it , you have to leave with it , with things in mind "why i made this decision , even i don't like it in first place."

                4- bike looks good , but get openions from real owners . Who using it or used it .


                Originally posted by worrisomebear View Post
                ZMr 250 is on cards, so perhaps if u wish to wait you can as well
                Ya heard it before a year & someone posted a conversation with upper management person in ZMR thread .

                But then no news untill now .

                I hope this is not something like posted HERE
                Last edited by Above_All; 04-02-2012, 10:31 AM.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                  zmr is same old zma with more plastics and a injection of fi.
                  What more do you expect??? Sound system with Video facility???

                  zma is now being retailed at 84-85k rs i guess.
                  Its 88K in Kerala, India.

                  here you go again,no matter what people ask you will always suggest zma.phew...
                  Please re-read the OP's post once again. IIRC He particularly said 125Kmph top speed and 17Bhp. Any other suggestions???

                  Originally posted by Satyamzma View Post
                  Oh boy this bike still looks Hot & Lean...but why you installed leg guard on it??
                  Cost of a ZMA = 88K, cost of a Leg = Priceless.
                  For me looks always come second to functionality and reliability.

                  Originally posted by Kalli12 View Post
                  ^^ +1!! wow just by seeing that i wanna get my hands on it right away!!
                  Lol, thanks... And you cant have it.
                  Motorcycling Experience:
                  2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                  2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                  2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                  2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                  2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                  2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                  The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                  Adios Comrades!
                  A.P. 2018

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                    What more do you expect??? Sound system with Video facility???
                    how about a monoshock/liquid cooling for an upgrade? of course if hero could provide sound system & video facility they are welcome, nobody is complaining.
                    Let's bring down the monster of corruption to it's knees.. please visit http://ipaidabribe.com/

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                    • #70
                      Hi all,

                      I have now decided to take a test drive of following bikes. (in order of degree of my interest in each)

                      1-CBR 150R + 250R
                      2-P200NS
                      3-Karizma R + ZMR
                      4-Avenger 220

                      @Avenger220 owners - I m still waiting for your critics. (plz elaborate comfort level in accordance with my height, which is ~ 6').

                      I think it will take another 1-2 months for me to lay my hands on each of these bikes for TDs. I will surely let you guys know the bike I will buy.

                      @ Moderators- I don't think that avenger owners are really the "helping" types and as I have made up my mind, please tell me the next steps of "what-bike" customs for continuing this thread. (I mean if its really necessary then you people can close this thread).


                      @All- Thanks for all your inputs. Really appreciate the sincerity of suggestions. You guys are F-ing awesome.
                      Last edited by driver; 04-02-2012, 01:45 AM.
                      The world stands apart for a man who knows where he is going.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Above_All View Post
                        HERE
                        and you thought i was really excited about zmr 250.ninja cbr gt250 r is enough for us,we don't need another hideous looking bike from hmc.
                        Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                        What more do you expect??? Sound system with Video facility???
                        may be they should start providing them to start entertaining rider as because their bikes lack pick-up,lacks cornering ability,lacks top speed,lacks futuristic styling,lacks thrill.
                        and don't come swearing by the touring capabilities of zma,there are other better tourers out there.



                        Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                        Please re-read the OP's post once again. IIRC He particularly said 125Kmph top speed and 17Bhp. Any other suggestions???
                        why not r15,cbr 150r,rtr 180,rtr abs.why it always have to be a zma?
                        Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
                        how about a monoshock/liquid cooling for an upgrade? of course if hero could provide sound system & video facility they are welcome, nobody is complaining.
                        add to that a better chasis,reduced weight,better mass centralization for better handling at corners.more top speed,wider rear tyre.proportionate fairing,projector head lamps,better brakes.may be an abs.
                        Originally posted by driver View Post
                        @All- Thanks for all your inputs. Really appreciate the sincerity of suggestions. You guys are F-ing awesome.
                        you are leaving this thread being unresolved,this is not done.
                        and the question remains why do i race?
                        every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                        #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                        #overkill is underrated.
                        #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                        #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road
                        (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                        • #72
                          @sayank10 bro: why not r15,cbr 150r,rtr 180,rtr abs.why it always have to be a zma?
                          ride the zma at such high speeds for long duration why people suggest it, the stability is really cool at high speeds
                          @driver: zma or cbr250 which ever of these both will satisfy most of your expectation is uptp you ; I would suggest you rather pick anyone of the two

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by raja_roadster View Post
                            @sayank10 bro: why not r15,cbr 150r,rtr 180,rtr abs.why it always have to be a zma?
                            ride the zma at such high speeds for long duration why people suggest it, the stability is really cool at high speeds
                            leave aside rtr ,i guess r15,cbr,p220 are equally stable.now i don't know what is called stable,today i did a 90 kmph on a empty flyover on my passion plus,no wobbling,.no unstable feeling,braking to a complete halt was good to.passion is not meant for that speed right?i know things get different after 110 kmph,but it is not like that rtr flies away like a piece of paper and zma remains rock solid.
                            and the question remains why do i race?
                            every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                            #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                            #overkill is underrated.
                            #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                            #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road
                            (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                            • #74
                              @ driver i think you decided to wait for the upcoming bike to heat the road , so its may be around 1 or 2 month , so i suggest you ask the moderators to close this thread .

                              As you can get nothing from this thread instead of giving apportunity for some frustrated persons to start a brand war . Just check the quoted content below & think .

                              Originally posted by Unknown
                              zmr 250 another hideous looking bike from hmc.

                              their bikes lack pick-up,lacks cornering ability,lacks top speed,lacks futuristic styling,lacks thrill.
                              and don't come swearing by the touring capabilities of zma,there are other better tourers out there.
                              Mods time to look in this thread & some posts & posters leading to start brand war .

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Above_All View Post
                                @ driver i think you decided to wait for the upcoming bike to heat the road , so its may be around 1 or 2 month , so i suggest you ask the moderators to close this thread .
                                .
                                please look up for post #70
                                The world stands apart for a man who knows where he is going.

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