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**worrisomebear** · 03-30-2012, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post

Chill sayank... Chill..

PGM Fi is PURCHASED from Honda. That doesnt make it any bad does it? Most people do buy out such 'exotic' technology
26bit processor. A computing guy would probably die laughing at this. You should do your research well. Find out what I said that.
12 holes are better than 6. No?
Sensors - Not true. None of the other Indian FI bikes have an o2 sensor... manufacturers resolved to use a closed loop system. If you ask me o2 sensor IS a big deal.
Maps ARE exclusive tech. They show ability of a system to be reprogrammed. All other bikes have a dumb ecu (ROM)

Why are YOU getting into these kind of arguments man, you were a sensible poster. Stick to what the chap wants and what you think suits him and why. AND NOT Which bike is better.

Satyen is spot on, i think these are not needed topics for a discussion of buying bike..ZMR PGMFI is a bought from honda and is like any other honda bike...

**sayank10** · 03-30-2012, 05:51 PM

sorry not 26 bit,it is 26 pin.
cbr 150 and 250 r have o2 sensor.
maps were there in pulsar 220 fi.
r15 is doing it with just 6 holes while zmr needs 12 hole,shows the superiority of r15 tech
ok leaving the ot path.@ts carry on your discussion.

**Kalli12** · 03-30-2012, 07:00 PM

What the hell did i do?

i never meant to take this off topic or neither i am a zmr fan was just going through a site and found that so just posted it as it had a very detailed spec of zmr simple as that

**sayank10** · 03-30-2012, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by Kalli12 View Post

What the hell did i do?

i never meant to take this off topic or neither i am a zmr fan was just going through a site and found that so just posted it as it had a very detailed spec of zmr simple as that

nobody is accusing you chillax.

**Enthusiastic** · 03-30-2012, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by sayank10

please kindly consolidate what you are trying to say,i am unable to make out any sense from your post.
only thing i undestand from your post is you are addicted to smileys.
happy sensible posting.

That was very funny lol

**Enthusiastic** · 03-30-2012, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by sayank10

please kindly consolidate what you are trying to say,i am unable to make out any sense from your post.
only thing i undestand from your post is you are addicted to smileys.
happy sensible posting.

@Sayank, well noted. But if you see carefully he used 8 smileys and all are different from each other. How many expressions he has in a single comment

**sayank10** · 03-31-2012, 12:46 AM

anyways thread-starter have you found your way to conclusion through all these ot?

**Above_All** · 03-31-2012, 01:21 AM

It seems like unknow have no answers for the relationship between Technology & Plastics he developed .

So he deleted all his posts , when members login then only they can see the things that "This message has been deleted by Unknown."

For guests or logged out peoples it hides out & other messages looks following , which made all my messages look as repeated posting without using multiquote .

I don't like that so i too deleted my messages , but if anyone just wanted to know what i posted then look at below stuff.

For those who haven't seen messages of that Unknown , use the trick of looking in past by either google cache of page or the way Samarth 619 posted here http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/pit-stop...tml#post790673

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Unknown

This message has been deleted by Unknown.

Originally posted by Above_All

sayank10 may be as per you others bikes you mentioned are great than ZMR .

But i haven't asked for any comparison

I just asked how those 15 features are plastics ? And not a technology

What is the logic or arithmatic used for summation of all these features in plastics .

In my Engineering i haven't studies such kind of summation , so i am hungry to get new kind of knowledge , i am not that much knowledgeble to understand it . Please Kindly help me to learn the logic .

BTW Tripmeter , odometer & a switch to shift between them , watch , fuel meter , speedo meter , mileage figures , & a welcome & goodbye message , if all this is called as multifunction , then i think ZMR have a multifunctional display .

Unknown

This message has been deleted by Unknown. Reason: holy crap on a cracker!!!!

Originally posted by Above_All

I am clearly saying help me to know the process by which all that come in plastics .

Addicted to smiley ? That's all expressions i get while reading you post & posting .

And the other person who saying how many expressions in single comment , well buddy i given space in each statement & each smiley is releated to respective statement .

Unknown

This message has been deleted by Unknown. Reason: world is full of unreasonable people,sigh!!!!!!

Originally posted by Above_All

^^^ ok , as you don't want to be dragged in & share knowledge of summing the things in plastics ( which are knows as technology ) . So not quoting you , not mentioning your name .

Sorry if my clear question that "How these things knows as technology come under plastics" not making any sence to you & you unable to answer .

I am not in this topic anywhere as i have not that much great knowledge about the bikes the thread starter asked ( And he already mentioned he don't like sitting position of ZMR ) .

But after getting your or someone unkonwn's post summing technology things in plastics , i thought i may get some good knowledge , so i poked in this thread .

Now i think that some one unknown is not accepting its his post & not gonna share the process of summation .

So sorry again thread starter for going OT .

Will ask some seniors guys later about the process of summing technolgies in plastics .

Unknown

This message has been deleted by Unknown. Reason: never ever say anything about zmr or zma,got it=me to myself.

Originally posted by Above_All

^^^^ even a 8th standard student can understand the question as i have asked it more than couple of time on this same page .

The things is like "Soye hua ko jagana aasan hai , par notanki kar rahe ko nahi" ( its easy to weak up someone who is sleeping but not to the one who is making acting of sleeping . )

As that unkonwn is making act of sleeping , so i am out of this topic . Others please continue your suggestions & help the thread starter to decide .

Peace & chill .

Unknown

This message has been deleted by Unknown. Reason: i just ran into a wall.

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**Dinesh.P** · 03-31-2012, 03:58 AM

Hi Guys let us help him in deciding his ride... It has become an Karizma thread..
Karizma is a very good product from Hero no one can oppose it and ZMR is Hero's flagship model.

He has shortlisted the bike please help him in choosing the bike from the list he has......

**driver** · 03-31-2012, 05:13 AM

Originally posted by sayank10 View Post

anyways thread-starter have you found your way to conclusion through all these ot?

If only.. :-/

**driver** · 03-31-2012, 05:43 AM

Gentle Reminder-
Thread topic is - Please help me select my first bike.
and not - Please start a debate over Karizma and go bananas. (I really didn't need all that kind of info but yeah you people certainly are amusing).

Originally posted by ankitshringi View Post

I rode the avenger for a week when in Goa.
- It is little difficult to steer it in very slow traffic, otherwise it is the most comfortable bike to cruise on (did amost 60-70 Kms a day on the bike).
- The only issue i found was that it doesn't corner very easily on sharp curves (but that's what almost all cruisers do).
- It has the same 220 engine which is on pulsar but makes less peak power so engine shouldn't be too much of a bother.
- Pillion is quite uncomfortable on long stretches (Acute bum pain for the pillion if you ride continuously for more than an hour

) But the driver seat is 'Oh so comfy' that you'd want to cruise on for hours without hurting your bum (something that is quite pronounced while riding the P220 on long hauls)
- About the Silencer issue that you had mentioned, the bike i rode was about an year old but didn't show any signs of rusting even while in a coastal place like Goa.

Meet up with someone who own an avenger (friend of a friend or someone who has owned avenger for a while) for any inputs on the small issues but remember TEST DRIVE - don't just go by anybody's opinion to buy a bike.

Cheers

Thnx Ankit...

For those who still might care.. My final list is -

1-CBR 150R
2-P200NS
3-Karizma R + ZMR (on people's demand)
4-Avenger 220

I think now only Test Drive of top 3 bikes will help me choose The One.

@Other pro bikers (present or previous owners of Avy 220).. Please give me some good reasons of why I should (or should not) buy Avenger 220.

**Kalli12** · 03-31-2012, 12:26 PM

AFAIK CBR 150R is just 20k less than 250R(NON-ABS) if you are going for 150r better try stretching the budget and hop onto 250R!

**siddharth_ZMR** · 03-31-2012, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by driver View Post

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For those who still might care.. My final list is -

1-CBR 150R
2-P200NS
3-Karizma R + ZMR (on people's demand)
4-Avenger 220

You might go for CBR 150R if that fits your budget coz its supposed to be track oriented so it will fun to ride and will def score over P200NS. If budget constraints are there then P200NS is def VFM. karizma R is a tourer and relaxed bike. So unless you tour or love riding relaxed dont go for Karizma R...

**Enthusiastic** · 03-31-2012, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by driver View Post

Gentle Reminder-
Thread topic is - Please help me select my first bike.
and not - Please start a debate over Karizma and go bananas. (I really didn't need all that kind of info but yeah you people certainly are amusing).

Thnx Ankit...

For those who still might care.. My final list is -

1-CBR 150R
2-P200NS
3-Karizma R + ZMR (on people's demand)
4-Avenger 220

I think now only Test Drive of top 3 bikes will help me choose The One.

@Other pro bikers (present or previous owners of Avy 220).. Please give me some good reasons of why I should (or should not) buy Avenger 220.

If you are a kind of a guy who would love to see all the other options in your RVM and comfortable riding in the city go for P200NS. ZMR would be the best if you go on long tours frequently. I think Karizma R is not that especial for touring so you can remove that. I would recommend going for CBR 250R instead if you're planning for CBR150 only if 3-4kmpl won't matter you much.

**sayank10** · 03-31-2012, 04:20 PM

let me ge one thing clear.what do you want a tourer? or a street fighter? or a track tool? or a pretty much every thing?

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