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  • #31
    Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
    and you call that lots of technology?

    i've been going through about bikes and found these techs about zmr

    1. PGM-Fi: Programmable Fuel Injection
    2. 16 Bit ECU Processor For Rapid Digital Fuel Injection Mapping
    3. Oil Cooled Engine
    4. 12 Hole Fuel Injector For Better Atomization Of Fuel
    5. Engine Oil Temperature Sensor Which Provides Different Fuel Mixtures At Different Temperatures
    6. Intake Air Temperature Sensor Which Senses The Intake Air Temp To Determine & Supply The Optimum Air To Fuel Ratio
    7. Throttle Position Sensor Which Detects Throttle Opening & Provides Input To The ECU
    8. Crank Position Sensor Which Senses The Position & Time At Which Fuel Needs To Be Injected In Relation To Crank Angle
    9. Oxygen Sensor Ensures Correct Air Fuel Ratio For The Catalytic Convertor
    10. Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor
    11. Idle Air Control Valve
    12. Gas Charged Shock Absorbers
    13. Rear Disc Brake

    those are the 6-high tech sensors

    to me thats a lot of technology :P
    Last edited by Kalli12; 03-30-2012, 01:45 PM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by driver View Post
      5-Avenger 220 (I seriously want some inputs about this bike from you people, its like nobody wants to talk about this bike or something)
      I rode the avenger for a week when in Goa.
      - It is little difficult to steer it in very slow traffic, otherwise it is the most comfortable bike to cruise on (did amost 60-70 Kms a day on the bike).
      - The only issue i found was that it doesn't corner very easily on sharp curves (but that's what almost all cruisers do).
      - It has the same 220 engine which is on pulsar but makes less peak power so engine shouldn't be too much of a bother.
      - Pillion is quite uncomfortable on long stretches (Acute bum pain for the pillion if you ride continuously for more than an hour ) But the driver seat is 'Oh so comfy' that you'd want to cruise on for hours without hurting your bum (something that is quite pronounced while riding the P220 on long hauls)
      - About the Silencer issue that you had mentioned, the bike i rode was about an year old but didn't show any signs of rusting even while in a coastal place like Goa.

      Meet up with someone who own an avenger (friend of a friend or someone who has owned avenger for a while) for any inputs on the small issues but remember TEST DRIVE - don't just go by anybody's opinion to buy a bike.

      Cheers
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      • #33
        Originally posted by sayank10 View Post

        zmr is same old zma with more plastics and a injection of fi.
        @Sayank10... how much you have toured???? And how much was on a full faired bike? and if you havent understood the difference what a faired, semi-faired and naked bike make in touring dont start giving opinions on touring bikes like ZMR. Morover no other INDIAN bike offers anywhere near technology
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        • #34
          Originally posted by eliksir View Post
          The ZMR is an improved ZMA with a lot of technology.
          Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
          like?i thought it was with a lot of plastic.
          Originally posted by eliksir View Post
          There's more to ZMR than just the fairing.

          "12 hole fuel injector, 16 bit ECU and 6 high-tech sensors"
          Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
          and you call that lots of technology?
          Originally posted by Kalli12 View Post
          i've been going through about bikes and found these techs about zmr

          1. PGM-Fi: Programmable Fuel Injection
          2. 16 Bit ECU Processor For Rapid Digital Fuel Injection Mapping
          3. Oil Cooled Engine
          4. 12 Hole Fuel Injector For Better Atomization Of Fuel
          5. Engine Oil Temperature Sensor Which Provides Different Fuel Mixtures At Different Temperatures
          6. Intake Air Temperature Sensor Which Senses The Intake Air Temp To Determine & Supply The Optimum Air To Fuel Ratio
          7. Throttle Position Sensor Which Detects Throttle Opening & Provides Input To The ECU
          8. Crank Position Sensor Which Senses The Position & Time At Which Fuel Needs To Be Injected In Relation To Crank Angle
          9. Oxygen Sensor Ensures Correct Air Fuel Ratio For The Catalytic Convertor
          10. Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor
          11. Idle Air Control Valve
          12. Gas Charged Shock Absorbers
          13. Rear Disc Brake

          those are the 6-high tech sensors

          to me thats a lot of technology :P
          Add

          14.Tubeless Tyres
          15.Complete Digital Meter Assembly

          in the list

          And i think its a lot of Technology . Not just a plastic

          sayank10 hame bhi to batao ye sab technology na hokar plastics ke andar kaise aate hai

          ( How all this come in plastics not in technology )

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          • #35
            lol 1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9.10
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            • #36
              Why the stupid discussion here??

              This thread is cluttered with ZMR Fanboys and anti-ZMR Douchebags fighting on silly topics. Mods have advised other Xbhpians against creating such nuisance earlier too. Now just grow up and stop fighting and help Driver, who has created this thread realize his dream of owning a good bike.
              Take your fight somewhere else
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              • #37
                Originally posted by siddharth_ZMR View Post
                @Sayank10... how much you have toured???? And how much was on a full faired bike? and if you havent understood the difference what a faired, semi-faired and naked bike make in touring dont start giving opinions on touring bikes like ZMR. Morover no other INDIAN bike offers anywhere near technology
                Not so sure about that Sid! There are bikes that offer similar and better technology; made in India too! I'm sure you can think of some names.
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                • #38
                  Theres only the CBR with all of that IIRC and I guess now the Duke!

                  and that is THE CBR best touring bike in India today
                  Last edited by satyenpoojary; 03-30-2012, 04:56 PM.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by ankitshringi View Post
                    This thread is cluttered with ZMR Fanboys and anti-ZMR Douchebags fighting on silly topics. Mods have advised other Xbhpians against creating such nuisance earlier too. Now just grow up and stop fighting and help Driver, who has created this thread realize his dream of owning a good bike.
                    Take your fight somewhere else
                    +1 Same thoughts..help him choose the bike frenz
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                      Theres only the CBR with all of that IIRC

                      and that is THE best touring bike in India today
                      with the fuel prices going up and down, the best touring mechanism is a camel..self fueling, ample fuel, easy pace, auto-pilot...what else would one want? -- sorry for the extreme OT

                      I agree with Satyen, the CBR has to be one of the better tourers available today. Agreed that it does not feel like a typical Honda, it still is a VFM package for touring.

                      No offense to RE owners, I do not really like a bullet or any iteration of that kind; however, that is personal taste and I know of many who have sold off their bikes to own a Bullet.

                      All said and done, when it comes to choosing between the ZMA and ZMR, I would vote for the ZMA.
                      Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by niranjanvaidya View Post
                        with the fuel prices going up and down, the best touring mechanism is a camel..self fueling, ample fuel, easy pace, auto-pilot...what else would one want? -- sorry for the extreme OT

                        I agree with Satyen, the CBR has to be one of the better tourers available today. Agreed that it does not feel like a typical Honda, it still is a VFM package for touring.

                        No offense to RE owners, I do not really like a bullet or any iteration of that kind; however, that is personal taste and I know of many who have sold off their bikes to own a Bullet.

                        All said and done, when it comes to choosing between the ZMA and ZMR, I would vote for the ZMA.
                        +1 on the camel.
                        The problem is people get obsessed with the cubic capacity and the technology (or the lack of it) in these discussions and that plagued with the fanboyism kill the discussion.

                        More tech isnt necessarily good. No tech isnt necessarily good either. Find if that tech is really needed for your use or benfits you in any form.

                        I would have loved to buy the ZMR over the ZMA had it not been hideous to my eye!
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by niranjanvaidya View Post
                          with the fuel prices going up and down, the best touring mechanism is a camel..self fueling, ample fuel, easy pace, auto-pilot...what else would one want? -- sorry for the extreme OT
                          lol "Auto-pilot mode" ... icing on the cake!

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Above_All View Post
                            Add
                            14.Tubeless Tyres
                            15.Complete Digital Meter Assembly
                            humble dio,twister offers tubeless tyres.
                            now digital meter is not tecnology,it is quite common this days.
                            technology is the mfd[multi-functional display] of duke.
                            Originally posted by siddharth_ZMR View Post
                            @Sayank10... how much you have toured???? And how much was on a full faired bike? and if you havent understood the difference what a faired, semi-faired and naked bike make in touring dont start giving opinions on touring bikes like ZMR. Morover no other INDIAN bike offers anywhere near technology
                            so now fairing is technology huh?
                            and you are saying that no other indian bikes is as tech laden as zmr.bite me.anyways where duke and r15 stands in your tech parameter.

                            Originally posted by Kalli12 View Post
                            1. PGM-Fi: Programmable Fuel Injection
                            2. 16 Bit ECU Processor For Rapid Digital Fuel Injection Mapping
                            3. Oil Cooled Engine
                            4. 12 Hole Fuel Injector For Better Atomization Of Fuel
                            5. Engine Oil Temperature Sensor Which Provides Different Fuel Mixtures At Different Temperatures
                            6. Intake Air Temperature Sensor Which Senses The Intake Air Temp To Determine & Supply The Optimum Air To Fuel Ratio
                            7. Throttle Position Sensor Which Detects Throttle Opening & Provides Input To The ECU
                            8. Crank Position Sensor Which Senses The Position & Time At Which Fuel Needs To Be Injected In Relation To Crank Angle
                            9. Oxygen Sensor Ensures Correct Air Fuel Ratio For The Catalytic Convertor
                            10. Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor
                            11. Idle Air Control Valve
                            12. Gas Charged Shock Absorbers
                            13. Rear Disc Brake
                            pgm-fi is borrowed from honda,even glamour and stunner have it.
                            r15 has 26 pin ecu processor.
                            r15 with 6 hole fuel injector has better throttle response.
                            o2 sensor,crank postion sensor,tps is commomn in all fi bikes.
                            p220 has oilcooled engine,engine oil temp sensor,temp based ignition mapping.
                            maps and iacv is not at all exclusive techs.
                            while unicorn offers a monoshock ,a 1 lakh rupee bike doesn't offer it.p220 has been offering rear disc since 2007.now rtr,hunk,cbz,dazzler have it.
                            Last edited by sayank10; 03-30-2012, 05:37 PM.
                            and the question remains why do i race?
                            every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

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                            #overkill is underrated.
                            #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                            #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

                            (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                              humble dio,twister offers tubeless tyres.
                              now digital meter is not tecnology,it is quite common this days.
                              technology is the mfd[multi-functional display] of duke.

                              so now fairing is technology huh?
                              and you are saying that no other indian bikes is as tech laden as zmr.bite me.anyways where duke and r15 stands in your tech parameter.


                              pgm-fi is borrowed from honda,even glamour and stunner have it.
                              r15 has 26 bit ecu processor.
                              r15 with 6 hole fuel injector has better throttle response.
                              o2 sensor,crank postion sensor,tps is commomn in all fi bikes.
                              p220 has oilcooled engine,engine oil temp sensor,temp based ignition mapping.
                              maps and iacv is not at all exclusive techs.
                              while unicorn offers a monoshock ,a 1 lakh rupee bike doesn't offer it.p220 has been offering rear disc since 2007.now rtr,hunk,cbz,dazzler have it.
                              Chill sayank... Chill..

                              PGM Fi is PURCHASED from Honda. That doesnt make it any bad does it? Most people do buy out such 'exotic' technology
                              26bit processor. A computing guy would probably die laughing at this. You should do your research well. Find out what I said that.
                              12 holes are better than 6. No?
                              Sensors - Not true. None of the other Indian FI bikes have an o2 sensor... manufacturers resolved to use a closed loop system. If you ask me o2 sensor IS a big deal.
                              Maps ARE exclusive tech. They show ability of a system to be reprogrammed. All other bikes have a dumb ecu (ROM)


                              Why are YOU getting into these kind of arguments man, you were a sensible poster. Stick to what the chap wants and what you think suits him and why. AND NOT Which bike is better.
                              Last edited by satyenpoojary; 03-30-2012, 05:29 PM.
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                              • #45
                                So if they have it, does the ZMRs O2 sensor become obsolete? And remember these bikes are like recently launched...

                                I am NOT falling for this discussion. Take a time out, and read through your post.
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