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  • #16
    lol how can you be confused between naked bike and a fully faired beauty, you already own a180 so going for p200ns will be just like riding another bike with more power, however if you get r15 itll be like complete different league, go for r15 bro you wont regret it even though its power is lesser then 200ns you will feel like god while riding it just for the looks
    imho r15ver 2 is the best looking bike in india below 3lk

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    • #17
      Originally posted by abhiiceman View Post
      imho r15ver 2 is the best looking bike in india below 3lk

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      • #18
        Originally posted by somen1984 View Post


        R15 overheating problem !!!! Never heard and never eperienced self!! Yes if you ride any bike in 2-3gears in bumper to bumper traffic for more than 40mins as it happens here in Mumbai,in peaks office hrs then any bike is likely to get heated. But as other few bikes gets over heated in just fews kms like 20kms, is nothing like that in R15.

        I have toured alot on my R15 never seen any overheating issues with mine or others! slight heating is there if you ride constantly for 230kms, but not over heating. For city rides go with P200NS anytime!!

        i still INMO belive R15 is the best in handling and braking, but people are comapring Duke and Ns200 with R15 in braking and handling too. So in those parts Ns200 is good!

        if you are a family person and think for decent bike with average maintenance, nice power and top speed, then go with Ns200!! any day on highways NS200 will over take R15 easily !!

        You might want to read this.. http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...-paradise.html the ninja and cbr dint overheat but the R15 did. My friends bike without anything blocking the air vents still heats up pretty badly in traffic. To him my P220 is himalayas lol i did see a couple posts about heating issues in the ownership thread.

        Originally posted by Chandan92 View Post
        hey guys
        i want to buy a bike of high performance i hav shortlisted yamaha R15 and p200ns (not considered CBR 250R for high price tag ) plz tell me which to choose in terms of both looks and performance . i mostly ride in cities although on highway in weekends. i pesently own Apache RTR 180 so plz suggest me which bike is best if u hav other bike then also share ur views
        thank you and ride safe
        I would say P200NS. The 200 is more comfortable in the city and on the highway for touring. i found the R15's riding position to be a bummer. Ofcourse you will get used to it but then comfort is comfort. Unless you want supersport styling and intend to do alot of "sporty" riding, i wouldnt suggest the R15.
        Last edited by yellowspunk; 07-17-2012, 02:29 PM.
        Regardless, Life shall go on.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by yellowspunk View Post
          You might want to read this.. http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...-paradise.html the ninja and cbr dint overheat but the R15 did. My friends bike without anything blocking the air vents still heats up pretty badly in traffic. To him my P220 is himalayas lol i did see a couple posts about heating issues in the ownership thread.
          .
          instead looking for overheating, went through a wonderfull trip log, nice one friends, thanks to bringing it to my motice!!

          There are always some ifs or buts but it doesn't mean that R15 gets heated!! I am riding it from past 2 yrs serviced on time and wash my bike every saturday! specially all under side mudguards,etc and do take care of my radiator too, always clean it with brush before washing!!

          There is no hard and fast rule! just for few R15s we can't blame overheating issues on this gem machine!! Radiator is the part where people only spray hard water but don't clean the muds from the radiator grills! it might be the issue!! No one will buy a 150cc bike for 1.3L if it heats.

          What if i have seen CBR and Duke getting heated on 230kms more than my R15!! then that doesn't mean CBR has started heating!!

          Periodic service and right approach is the best way to keep machine cool, even if we don't clean radiator specially then too R15 won't heat abnormally!!

          Originally posted by MG View Post
          It is actually the other way round. In city NS will outperform R15 very easily while on highway if there is heavy crosswind then both will be almost at par.
          I guess no!! cross wind will effect NS200 but not that much , that NS200 won't over run R15, when r15 will struggle post 12okmph to reach 130kmph, NS200 will easily catch up to 130-135kmph and would struggle after 135kmph, people are quoting NS200 top speed 140kmph+.

          Wind will effect but not that much to that nicelt curved bike INMO. in city no wonder NS200 is anytime a winner!!
          Last edited by Guest; 07-17-2012, 02:58 PM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
            There are always some ifs or buts but it doesn't mean that R15 gets heated!! I am riding it from past 2 yrs serviced on time and wash my bike every saturday! specially all under side mudguards,etc and do take care of my radiator too, always clean it with brush before washing!!

            There is no hard and fast rule! just for few R15s we can't blame overheating issues on this gem machine!! Radiator is the part where people only spray hard water but don't clean the muds from the radiator grills! it might be the issue!! No one will buy a 150cc bike for 1.3L if it heats.

            What if i have seen CBR and Duke getting heated on 230kms more than my R15!! then that doesn't mean CBR has started heating!!

            Periodic service and right approach is the best way to keep machine cool, even if we don't clean radiator specially then too R15 won't heat abnormally!!
            relax dude.. you said you dint know of such a issue.. so quoted.
            Regardless, Life shall go on.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post
              Woahhhh my two favorite bikes of todays ... Pulsar 200NS & R15... Don't go deeply in specs & all... R15 specs doenst tell complete story same in case of 200NS...


              Test Drive both of the vehicle & decide, but BE AWARE it will again make your decision tough like hell as both bikes are awesome & you will hardly find out any con's in both bikes comparison with each other, Fun Loving plus thriller...

              Don't Look for Money for sure it should not be deciding factor, If you care for you bike like you do for your gf & your loved one then there is no need to worry about maintenance & other stuff... Just Ride both of the bikes & decide what you like.. I believe top end speed of both bike will be around Same....

              About Acceleration Owners/Expert please correct me if I am wrong, P200 NS is fastest to reach 0-60 & 0-100km/h & easy handler On & off Road.... But R15 Gives you that Sporty Feeling & Luxury Insight with Speed.

              Just Make Sure to Test Drive both of the vehicle ...
              Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

              Overheating Issue!!! I remember that Yamaha Free Up-gradation Kit coz of Overheating... but it was coz of Fool Motorcyclist who cover that Engine Space with Piece of Cloth & doenst allow an air to flow through ... But Wasn't an issue regarding Bike or Physics...
              Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

              IN MY HONEST OPINIONS TOOO
              Shahbaz, kindly refrain from using caps. It means you're shouting on the forum.
              And please get rid of bolds when not required. And those italics don't look good either. Period!

              Originally posted by yellowspunk View Post
              You might want to read this.. http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...-paradise.html the ninja and cbr dint overheat but the R15 did. My friends bike without anything blocking the air vents still heats up pretty badly in traffic. To him my P220 is himalayas lol i did see a couple posts about heating issues in the ownership thread.



              I would say P200NS. The 200 is more comfortable in the city and on the highway for touring. i found the R15's riding position to be a bummer. Ofcourse you will get used to it but then comfort is comfort. Unless you want supersport styling and intend to do alot of "sporty" riding, i wouldnt suggest the R15.
              Agree with yellowspunk. Moreover, the NS @94K is VFM.

              No pointers against R15, but lets see the requirement as well. If you're a track junkie, go for R15. For the general rider who doesn't care for lap times, 0-100 or 0-60 figures, the NS is a good bet. After all, how many times are you going to cross 60 in city. (assuming you're a responsible rider).

              If you're into touring, then both would serve good, but as always - "There's no replacement for displacement."
              Plus, you get more power at the wheel. (23.5 ps - 17 ps = 6.5 ps -> which is a lot!) This means more power in the lower and mid RPM range. You'll feel an insane amount of thrust right from the word go.

              Regarding the R15 heating issue, its a one off case literally. I read the trip log but then it must not be forgotten that the R15 is a high revving engine with less amount of displacement at its disposal (Ananth had a Ninja, Sai had a CBR 250R) so its bound to heat up in a sub 500 kms trip.

              If I were you, I'd take the NS because :-
              1. More power at lower revs - more comfortable in the city.
              2. Bajaj brand - cheaper spares.
              3. Highway touring is quite do-able.
              4. @94K, its a steal and leaves me with the extra 30-35K to buy good gear!

              Cheers
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              ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
              P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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              • #22
                Originally posted by abhiiceman View Post
                lol how can you be confused between naked bike and a fully faired beauty, you already own a180 so going for p200ns will be just like riding another bike with more power, however if you get r15 itll be like complete different league, go for r15 bro you wont regret it even though its power is lesser then 200ns you will feel like god while riding it just for the looks
                imho r15ver 2 is the best looking bike in india below 3lk
                Thanx bro for ur advice

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                  Shahbaz, kindly refrain from using caps. It means you're shouting on the forum.
                  And please get rid of bolds when not required. And those italics don't look good either. Period!



                  Agree with yellowspunk. Moreover, the NS @94K is VFM.

                  No pointers against R15, but lets see the requirement as well. If you're a track junkie, go for R15. For the general rider who doesn't care for lap times, 0-100 or 0-60 figures, the NS is a good bet. After all, how many times are you going to cross 60 in city. (assuming you're a responsible rider).

                  If you're into touring, then both would serve good, but as always - "There's no replacement for displacement."
                  Plus, you get more power at the wheel. (23.5 ps - 17 ps = 6.5 ps -> which is a lot!) This means more power in the lower and mid RPM range. You'll feel an insane amount of thrust right from the word go.

                  Regarding the R15 heating issue, its a one off case literally. I read the trip log but then it must not be forgotten that the R15 is a high revving engine with less amount of displacement at its disposal (Ananth had a Ninja, Sai had a CBR 250R) so its bound to heat up in a sub 500 kms trip.

                  If I were you, I'd take the NS because :-
                  1. More power at lower revs - more comfortable in the city.
                  2. Bajaj brand - cheaper spares.
                  3. Highway touring is quite do-able.
                  4. @94K, its a steal and leaves me with the extra 30-35K to buy good gear!

                  Cheers
                  Thanx bro for your advice, i hav to travel maximum of 70 KM on express highway and i m a college going guy so will ns fulfill my needs (being a tourer you will understand what a rider wants in his bike) and i also want to know that is pulsar 200ns available in chhattisgarh??

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Chandan92 View Post
                    Thanx bro for your advice, i hav to travel maximum of 70 KM on express highway and i m a college going guy so will ns fulfill my needs (being a tourer you will understand what a rider wants in his bike) and i also want to know that is pulsar 200ns available in chhattisgarh??
                    Let me answer your queries with pointers :-

                    1. 70 kms (round trip/Highway) - NS will do it with ease.
                    2. Requirements of a college going guy - Looks, power, uniqueness, ability to seat a possible female counterpart comfortably - NS nails it!

                    Question - Can I get the above facts with an R15?
                    Answer - Yes sir, except that uniqueness (exclusivity would be a better word here). There are R15's (V1 and V2) on road already....

                    Regarding availability, BAL is launching the NS in a phased manner. If its not available now, it should be available within a month or so. Make sure you book your soon, else you may have to queue up for long.

                    P.S - What's your height bro? The NS is a tall bike. Its taller than the P220. In case you're less than 5' 4" or 5' 5", you may face difficulty. Then the R15 would suit your stature more. If you're above 5' 10", ditch the R15 right away!

                    Cheers!
                    Last edited by Divya Sharan; 07-17-2012, 08:15 PM.
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                    Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                    Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                    ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                    P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by MG View Post
                      It is actually the other way round. In city NS will outperform R15 very easily while on highway if there is heavy crosswind then both will be almost at par.
                      I feel the same way round is correct. Tried the NS today at office, Power delivery is amazing, its the 1st Pulsar which has no characteristics of a typical Pulsar. But, NS is not as flick-able as Duke or R15, very sure that the R15 will take over the traffic tangles much better than the NS, with equivalent skilled riders on both bikes.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                        Let me answer your queries with pointers :-

                        1. 70 kms (round trip/Highway) - NS will do it with ease.
                        2. Requirements of a college going guy - Looks, power, uniqueness, ability to seat a possible female counterpart comfortably - NS nails it!

                        Question - Can I get the above facts with an R15?
                        Answer - Yes sir, except that uniqueness (exclusivity would be a better word here). There are R15's (V1 and V2) on road already....

                        Regarding availability, BAL is launching the NS in a phased manner. If its not available now, it should be available within a month or so. Make sure you book your soon, else you may have to queue up for long.

                        P.S - What's your height bro? The NS is a tall bike. Its taller than the P220. In case you're less than 5' 4" or 5' 5", you may face difficulty. Then the R15 would suit your stature more. If you're above 5' 10", ditch the R15 right away!

                        Cheers!
                        Thanx bro again for your valuable advice
                        my height is 5'10" and can you avail me some close pics of Pulsar 200NS and maximum what could be its onroad price

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Chandan92 View Post
                          Thanx bro for your advice, i hav to travel maximum of 70 KM on express highway and i m a college going guy so will ns fulfill my needs (being a tourer you will understand what a rider wants in his bike) and i also want to know that is pulsar 200ns available in chhattisgarh??
                          lol your a coll guy then looks matter the most (and also power),but with that rear seat of r15 itll be heaven when u take your GF for a ride

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                            135kmph, people are quoting NS200 top speed 140kmph+.

                            Wind will effect but not that much to that nicelt curved bike INMO. in city no wonder NS200 is anytime a winner!!
                            140+ that you are talking about is the figure posted by me and everyone is quoting that figure

                            Originally posted by HarishK View Post
                            But, NS is not as flick-able as Duke or R15, very sure that the R15 will take over the traffic tangles much better than the NS, with equivalent skilled riders on both bikes.
                            With 12000km done on NS I completely disagree to the traffic theory having ridden both the bikes one after another and seeing and experiencing many R15's around me. The highway thing also stands true unless you are not crouching on NS
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by MG View Post
                              140+ that you are talking about is the figure posted by me and everyone is quoting that figure


                              With 12000km done on NS I completely disagree to the traffic theory having ridden both the bikes one after another and seeing and experiencing many R15's around me. The highway thing also stands true unless you are not crouching on NS
                              I am Glad to hear R15 still rules the highway!!! Awesome!!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Chandan92 View Post
                                Thanx bro again for your valuable advice
                                my height is 5'10" and can you avail me some close pics of Pulsar 200NS and maximum what could be its onroad price
                                If BAL doesn't revise the prices, then the NS should come just under 1L INR. Else you can add 3-4K to it.
                                MG is 5' 11" or 6". You can find his review and many pics here.
                                MG's review - P200NS

                                Originally posted by abhiiceman View Post
                                lol your a coll guy then looks matter the most (and also power),but with that rear seat of r15 itll be heaven when u take your GF for a ride
                                Umm, let me repost what I'd said above.

                                Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                                Let me answer your queries with pointers :-

                                1. 70 kms (round trip/Highway) - NS will do it with ease.
                                2. Requirements of a college going guy - Looks, power, uniqueness, ability to seat a possible female counterpart comfortably - NS nails it!

                                Question - Can I get the above facts with an R15?
                                Answer - Yes sir, except that uniqueness (exclusivity would be a better word here). There are R15's (V1 and V2) on road already....
                                See the bold part? That's the difference. Not providing grab rails for the pillion along with a puny seat so high that makes the pillion seem to be sitting on the first floor of a building doesn't look cool IMO.
                                Last edited by Divya Sharan; 07-18-2012, 01:12 AM.
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                                ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
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