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    Hi everyone, I'm new around here and this is my first thread/post.

    I've been planning to buy a bike soon and I would like your inputs.

    Budget: 1.3 ~ 2 L

    Requirements: I'll be travelling around 40~50 kms on average daily. Mostly I'll be using it to ride to my College (35 kms per day, of which 80% is on the highways and the rest on city roads). I'll be riding through light to mediocre traffic most of the time, be it in the city or on the highways. I'm looking for a powerful ride with quick acceleration and one that handles well too. I've got two choices with me, either the KTM Duke 200 or the CBR 250 R. The Duke is priced at around 1.3 L and CBR 250 R is around 1.6 or 1.7 L. I'm currently thinking about picking the Duke since its cheaper and lighter than the CBR. But I heard Duke has problems with the maintenance. I would like to know how true is that. One of my friends suggested the CBR 250 R. I know the two bikes entirely belong to two different classes. CBR is more powerful than the Duke and has better ride comfort for long rides. The main reason that I would like to go for the Duke is that I'm mostly a city rider and not a tourer. But some of my friends still suggested it. I would like to know your take on this. Is Duke the right choice for me? or should I go for the CBR? Also this is going to be my first ride .
    P.S: I'll not be taking CBR 150 R or the R15 so kindly don't suggest those. Those aren't on my mind.
    2013 R15(Sold) | 2014 Duke 390 (Sold) | 2022 Adv 390 | 2022 Ninja 300

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    Well, Among the 2, the Duke is the better handler and the CBR is the one which does better overall on the highways. Both make almost exactly the same amount of power (25Ps) so the statement that CBR is more powerful than the Duke is not exactly accurate. Duke should be the more fuel efficient one amongst the 2 (its an important point when we consider that you are a student and your commute is almost ~1500km/month)

    About the maintenance bit, the owners can guide you better, but in your case, you cannot go wrong with either.
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    • #3
      ​why not r15 or 150 r are on your mind?
      and the question remains why do i race?
      every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

      #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
      #overkill is underrated.
      #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
      #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

      (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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      • #4
        I,m not an owner of both these bikes

        But i,m also in urge of buying a new bike and i have made a well study of all the Bikes to some extent

        Since the topic is only about the two bikes i will only give input about these two

        Both these bikes may of the same segment but they both have different characters

        To be short
        CBR 250 : Touring
        Duke 200 : Street fighter

        Both these machines Chunk 25 Horses and remarkable when it comes to handling

        Duke200:
        If you are a Fan of Yamaha RX two stroke then i bet you will for sure fall in love with the Duke - Its quite exactly churns our the same kind of power delivery what you expect from a Rx or Shogun - and engine nice is quite similar too
        Its a Short stroke engine similar to the RTR and produces lot of Torque like the Fazer - but quite naturally its different then all the Bikes that are available in INDIA.
        10ltr Fuel tank capacity, All visible monster looks, Good build quality and trust worthy Racing heritage from KTM, with FE of around 35-40kmpl.

        CBR250:
        This Heavy dude is a downgraded version of bigger CBR's and looks really awe sum but its not a bike for Complete city riding, its a Tourer it does produce remarkable torque like the duke, but its a bit heavier then the duke so flicking it in traffic is quite a job, its costlier then the duke and FE is almost similar to the Duke too.
        Honda's Bullet proof Engine quality and trust of Honda are the advantages of Honda.

        Ideally the mind set of today's Bikers are all based on Bad impressions if you go for any product something or the other will be bad about it, but at the end its what you want that matters the most
        So if your mind says Duke just go for it.
        But if you ask a question VFM then i would say Ride the Wing.

        If you want a Full faired Bike or the Naked Bike is the only question - if you answer this question you will get the bike which you want.

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        • #5
          the duke now costs closer to 1.5L !! (yes i am still furious at the recent hike of 8k ex-showroom, which translates to close to 10k OTR).
          IMO..
          price apart, the duke is 'lower' on maintenance and spares cost while packing as much punch (very hooligan'ist punch at that) compared to the CBR.
          CBR is comfy for longer rides, but the comfort factor is totally rider dependent.
          If you are ok with the higher costs of spares (eg. oil filter costs 90rs on duke and around 250 on cbr, brake pads cost twice or maybe more on the cbr etcc) of the CBR and are a fan of faired bikes then go for the cbr, if you want to be a hooligan the duke!!
          and i think i wud give the upper hand to bajaj/ktm for the after sales service.

          PS: i am still at the price hike and may end up with a 200ns! semma kadupa iruku !! unnoda budget la oru path aaiyram adjust panna mudiyuma ?
          Last edited by s1d; 10-14-2012, 08:06 AM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
            Well, Among the 2, the Duke is the better handler and the CBR is the one which does better overall on the highways. Both make almost exactly the same amount of power (25Ps) so the statement that CBR is more powerful than the Duke is not exactly accurate. Duke should be the more fuel efficient one amongst the 2 (its an important point when we consider that you are a student and your commute is almost ~1500km/month)
            Well the reason I thought CBR was more powerful was because although Duke has the same power as CBR, its short geared and it will be redlining in top gear at 135ks while CBR will still have some more steam left to go further, atleast that's what I've heard. Although I won't be going past 120ks unless I'm touring. The reason I thought of CBR 250 is mainly because of the ride comfort and that ABS technology. I guess I won't be getting an ABS version of the duke, but if I could somehow improve the ride quality (someone mentioned about padding the seats), I would happily pick the Duke.
            Originally posted by Thunder View Post
            with FE of around 35-40kmpl.
            If you want a Full faired Bike or the Naked Bike is the only question - if you answer this question you will get the bike which you want.
            Are you sure about the FE of duke ? I thought it was 30-35kmpl .
            Well actually I'm a fan of Naked bikes so that pretty much leaves it to Duke I guess .
            Originally posted by s1d View Post
            the duke now costs closer to 1.5L !! (yes i am still furious at the recent hike of 8k ex-showroom, which translates to close to 10k OTR).
            IMO..
            price apart, the duke is 'lower' on maintenance and spares cost while packing as much punch (very hooligan'ist punch at that) compared to the CBR.
            if you want to be a hooligan the duke!!
            and i think i wud give the upper hand to bajaj/ktm for the after sales service.

            PS: i am still at the price hike and may end up with a 200ns! semma kadupa iruku !! unnoda budget la oru path aaiyram adjust panna mudiyuma ?
            Lol, actually my dad wanted me too go for the P200NS as well. I don't know why he got a liking for the pulsar all of a sudden, because before the 200NS was out, he used to be a big hater of the pulsars. I had to do a lot of convincing to get him to extend the budget to 2L. Oh and the duke has released its new colors recently. I'll still go for the Orange version though

            Oh and btw, I'm 5'7'' and 70kgs in weight if that matters anything.
            I haven't test ridden these bikes yet. I'll probably do it next week or so.
            Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
            ​why not r15 or 150 r are on your mind?
            Well firstly its the power. Both these rides are below 20 Bhp. You might then ask me again why not go for the P200NS. I don't like its looks when compared with the Duke 200. As far as I've seen Duke is a crowd magnet on the roads. More so than the R15 simply because you don't see too many dukes. I've seen like 10~20 R15s in my own locality, but only 1 Duke on the roads. And I want to be accustomed to high power machines because my future rides will be 900 or 1000cc bikes. Also the R15 or CBR 150 R are quite expensive for what they deliver. While the Duke offers so much for such a low price.
            2013 R15(Sold) | 2014 Duke 390 (Sold) | 2022 Adv 390 | 2022 Ninja 300

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            • #7
              Go for the Duke buddy.The CBR is equally good but the Duke has the best Thrills to price ratio

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Ezilkannan View Post
                Well firstly its the power. Both these rides are below 20 Bhp. You might then ask me again why not go for the P200NS. I don't like its looks when compared with the Duke 200. As far as I've seen Duke is a crowd magnet on the roads. More so than the R15 simply because you don't see too many dukes. I've seen like 10~20 R15s in my own locality, but only 1 Duke on the roads. And I want to be accustomed to high power machines because my future rides will be 900 or 1000cc bikes. Also the R15 or CBR 150 R are quite expensive for what they deliver. While the Duke offers so much for such a low price.
                so basically you want a "crowd- magnet' bike,and some thing unique,sounds similar to a "big boy' in the market.
                and the question remains why do i race?
                every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                #overkill is underrated.
                #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

                (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                  so basically you want a "crowd- magnet' bike,and some thing unique,sounds similar to a "big boy' in the market.
                  Not exactly, like I said, the first thing is the power. Looks matter too. Compared to the R15 or CBR 150 R, duke's got more. That's the obvious reason. R15 is almost as good as the Duke in terms of looks, but not so in regards of the power, that's why I left it out. And the CBR 150 R well, its the same reason I left it too. Now 200NS has got 23Ps but I left it out too because its still not as powerful as the Duke, and lacks the aggressive naked streetfighter looks of the Duke. Basically I need a ride that gives maximum value for money. I see the Duke to fulfil this more than the others. Just a requote of what I said before, the Duke offers so much for such a low price.
                  2013 R15(Sold) | 2014 Duke 390 (Sold) | 2022 Adv 390 | 2022 Ninja 300

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ezilkannan View Post
                    the Duke offers so much for such a low price.
                    warning: the thrill ain't cheap anymore,duke is 10 k rs more dearer.
                    big boy=gt 250 r.
                    are you game for a 2nd hand ninja?
                    and the question remains why do i race?
                    every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                    #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                    #overkill is underrated.
                    #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                    #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

                    (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                      warning: the thrill ain't cheap anymore,duke is 10 k rs more dearer.
                      big boy=gt 250 r.
                      are you game for a 2nd hand ninja?
                      I can afford that. I'm sure it won't be higher than 1.5 L atleast. As for the Ninja is concerned, well its ok for me to take a second hand, well maintained ninja, but my dad will never want to get me a second hand bike. He has agreed to buy the Duke since I wanted a ride fast, i.e. within 3 or 4 months. If I wait for like a year or so, I can get him to buy me a ninja. Now wouldn't that be sweet? Sadly I can't wait that long, so I'll have to settle for the Duke. Maybe in future I'll get the bigger version of Ninja or something like that.
                      Last edited by Ezilkannan; 05-28-2013, 03:28 PM.
                      2013 R15(Sold) | 2014 Duke 390 (Sold) | 2022 Adv 390 | 2022 Ninja 300

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                      • #12
                        Buy a CBR250R ABS version...
                        ABS is a feature u just cant ignore, especially because you are a new Rider...

                        I too travel 50Km/day (To college) on my CBR250R ABS, and its my first bike
                        Similar to you, and I just love it
                        The higher weight & Fairing on the CBR make it more stable at high speeds, and its Top end is also greater than the Duke
                        Also if you want more power out of it later on, an ECU upgrade will help u do that, unlike the duke, since its already at 10k RMP at its top power output...
                        I get a mileage of 30, so I reFuel to Full Tank every saturday and it costs around Rs.750 which is fair enough...

                        If its speed u want, faired bikes are always better,
                        And again ABS is a feature u just cant ignore...

                        CBR ABS all the way
                        CBR250R with Leo Vince Cobra Exhaust

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by kidpikoon View Post
                          unlike the duke, since its already at 10k RMP at its top power output...
                          Hmm, even duke's ECU can be remapped to higher RPMs
                          2013 R15(Sold) | 2014 Duke 390 (Sold) | 2022 Adv 390 | 2022 Ninja 300

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Ezilkannan View Post
                            Hi everyone, I'm new around here and this is my first thread/post.

                            I've been planning to buy a bike soon and I would like your inputs.

                            Budget: 1.3 ~ 2 L

                            Requirements: I'll be travelling around 40~50 kms on average daily. Mostly I'll be using it to ride to my College (35 kms per day, of which 80% is on the highways and the rest on city roads). I'll be riding through light to mediocre traffic most of the time, be it in the city or on the highways. I'm looking for a powerful ride with quick acceleration and one that handles well too. I've got two choices with me, either the KTM Duke 200 or the CBR 250 R. The Duke is priced at around 1.3 L and CBR 250 R is around 1.6 or 1.7 L. I'm currently thinking about picking the Duke since its cheaper and lighter than the CBR. But I heard Duke has problems with the maintenance. I would like to know how true is that. One of my friends suggested the CBR 250 R. I know the two bikes entirely belong to two different classes. CBR is more powerful than the Duke and has better ride comfort for long rides. The main reason that I would like to go for the Duke is that I'm mostly a city rider and not a tourer. But some of my friends still suggested it. I would like to know your take on this. Is Duke the right choice for me? or should I go for the CBR? Also this is going to be my first ride .
                            P.S: I'll not be taking CBR 150 R or the R15 so kindly don't suggest those. Those aren't on my mind.
                            Actually a college student should go with some mileage stuff with some average power, because when you earn, you are more responsible on money matters, whether to smoke it on petrol or save it.

                            CBR 250 is mainly for touring for people who want power and speed on tours.

                            Duke is mainly city bike but no bike is like you can't use it in other way!!!

                            CBR ABS comes approx 2.0L and STB for 1.7L but thing is why to spend this much amount on bike when you are a college student.

                            I don't think a college student who has 35kms daily as an average should go with 250 or 200cc because you will be paying approx Rs120 daily/Petrol min, which can be on more higher side too.

                            The power and speed you are expecting would cost you with min average of 25kmpl by CBR and Duke would be close to 30kmpl. These are the figures which you will get if you ride these bikes at 110kmph or plus. It is very normal,if Duke or CBR are once on highway then you or any rider will ride 110-120kmph as an average speed.

                            If money itches you then go with CBR as it's best on highway with power.

                            If you think sensible then power or speed, then go with Dazzler/Unicorn/CBZ-hunk/Impulse, P150 and GS150r the best!!

                            Impulse is one of the best comfort bikes as reported by riders for good highway ride.(Actually comfort is very imp for 15kms+ ride daily cases)

                            Go with mileage with decent power than Mega Power like Duke or CBR or NS or P220 ..etc

                            No maintenance is trouble free!! It's purely on SVC you get!! My friend faces issue with Bajaj and Hero parts, but similarly my other friend don't have any issues!! So it's purely on how your SVC is?

                            Originally posted by kidpikoon View Post
                            Buy a CBR250R ABS version...
                            ABS is a feature u just cant ignore, especially because you are a new Rider...

                            I too travel 50Km/day (To college) on my CBR250R ABS, and its my first bike
                            Similar to you, and I just love it
                            The higher weight & Fairing on the CBR make it more stable at high speeds, and its Top end is also greater than the Duke
                            Also if you want more power out of it later on, an ECU upgrade will help u do that, unlike the duke, since its already at 10k RMP at its top power output...
                            I get a mileage of 30, so I reFuel to Full Tank every saturday and it costs around Rs.750 which is fair enough...

                            If its speed u want, faired bikes are always better,
                            And again ABS is a feature u just cant ignore...

                            CBR ABS all the way
                            From to where you go to college ??

                            Weekly 750 that means 4 weeks a month = 750*4 = Rs 3000 and anything more than college routine, some tour or other stuff would cross this Rs3000/- mark right ??

                            Surely, your parents are loving you alot. Ypu are lucky Bro!!

                            But you could have saved your parents money to great extend and petrol too. But if money doesn't matter you or your family then awesome!! But most of us are not that lucky so we have to settle at some average thing, But no regrets, today by own money I had own R15 and enjoy to the brim!! No petrol or money issue at all now.
                            Last edited by Guest; 10-14-2012, 10:29 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                              Actually a college student should go with some mileage stuff with some average power, because when you earn, you are more responsible on money matters, whether to smoke it on petrol or save it.

                              CBR 250 is mainly for touring for people who want power and speed on tours.

                              Duke is mainly city bike but no bike is like you can't use it in other way!!!

                              CBR ABS comes approx 2.0L and STB for 1.7L but thing is why to spend this much amount on bike when you are a college student.

                              I don't think a college student who has 35kms daily as an average should go with 250 or 200cc because you will be paying approx Rs120 daily/Petrol min, which can be on more higher side too.

                              The power and speed you are expecting would cost you with min average of 25kmpl by CBR and Duke would be close to 30kmpl. These are the figures which you will get if you ride these bikes at 110kmph or plus. It is very normal,if Duke or CBR are once on highway then you or any rider will ride 110-120kmph as an average speed.

                              If money itches you then go with CBR as it's best on highway with power.

                              If you think sensible then power or speed, then go with Dazzler/Unicorn/CBZ-hunk/Impulse, P150 and GS150r the best!!

                              Impulse is one of the best comfort bikes as reported by riders for good highway ride.(Actually comfort is very imp for 15kms+ ride daily cases)

                              Go with mileage with decent power than Mega Power like Duke or CBR or NS or P220 ..etc

                              No maintenance is trouble free!! It's purely on SVC you get!! My friend faces issue with Bajaj and Hero parts, but similarly my other friend don't have any issues!! So it's purely on how your SVC is?
                              He wants a powerful & Fast machine, and not just a mode of Transport...
                              And since he is ready to spend 2L, I think CBR250R ABS is the best he can get...
                              CBR250R with Leo Vince Cobra Exhaust

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