What else is more important than these on an automobile? Suspension? Fuel tank? Plastics? Handling? Fairings?

Keeping your sarcasm aside, pls, are you aware & CAN LIST down the issues with Duke pls? Don't you think issues are common with every motorcycle manufactured in the face of Earth?


I'm sure you'll be surprised to know a few Ninja 250R's belong to this category

Pls...show me the source of the posts. If you say, I know, then sorry...everyone else also knows

Pravu, seriously, I think you should start quoting few posts from owner's rather than saying "I know" statements. Pls provide the sources

Considering the fact CBR 250R was a freshly brewed from paper to reality compared to over boring a 125cc to 200 cc, the issues with CBR are far far less than Duke. I mean no disrespect even to a TVS champ, but to say, not just CBR is has issues, but, other bikes out there ALSO have issues.

Well said aargee. I was about to ask the same question. I mean what good is a bike that has so much on other things but a very bad engine? Isn't engine supposed to be the most important aspect of any vehicle? Its weird that someone will compromise on engine quality over others. Not for me though, I would always want a ride whose engine is of top notch. Another reason for picking Honda.

Well...in addition to a RELIABLE engine, frame is quite important component too; unless we have a good alloy wheels, non leaking suspensions, or radiator giving up or FI issues we cannot afford to stop in the middle of no where to keep fixing things. So all of the components are absolutely necessary to keep the entire motorcycle to keep going.

Like I keep saying, even a 13L motorcycle has issues; the only question is, how much we're willing to live up with these issues & keep going. Time & again I've been advocating, Buying is one time affair, but maintenance is for lifetime. And from what I've been coming across, every motorcycle is manufactured top notch, but, the ASC's (in this country) are the one's to rot them due to meager carelessness. And we all tend to blame the manufacturer as they don't control the ASC's or dealers. While it is true to some extent that the manufacturers have to control them, but then, are we fighting with our Govt for their accountability? Are we asking for our roads to improve? Are we asking for better service in Railways?

I'm not saying just live with it, but finding better ways to own the product. Just one bad experience from dealer should not keep us away from owning good products, that's all. This entire country is infected with such plague & especially the entire Eastern region has extremely bad state of affairs.

Anyway, keeping all these aside, as such I don't find any major issues with CBR 250R to keep it riding on the road for everyday use...and...that must be the same case with Duke too. Since I haven't ridden Duke extensively, I can't comment much on it.

I completely agree with aargee, every vehicle is different. No bike is perfect or no bike is absolutely bad. It's not created by god, everything is created by humans. At the end of the day we need to realize what we need in which bike we are comfortable.

@TS- Xbhp is a great forum to understand what to expect and what are the nature of issues members face in different bikes. Consider those views as the guidelines but not rules. When you are buying, test ride the bike 2 or 3 times and whichever you are comfortable, you should go for that. You are going to live with that and maintain it for long time.

I test rode R15 V2 for 3 times, and tried CBR 250, DUKE 200, APACHE 180 ABS. All of these bikes are very good in their own respect. But what I was comfortable based on my need and my usage I bought, which is CBR 150R.

It may be Duke or CBR 250R. Test drive it thoroughly, go thru D200 & CBR's threads or atleast aargee's FAQ's which covers almost all aspects of CBR 250R.

Very Simple to decide !! With what can yu live with ??

Even RE people are thinking themselves as King with the RE issues. Same is with most of the bikes.
Today as i own a R15 i am happy but who don't want a R15 handling and braking with CBR 250 power and speed ?? But still people are buying R15 and enjoying it.

So i guess this should answer your question. Even if CBR gets rusted in 3 yrs and you have to sell it in scrap, then too it's worth with ABS/power/Speed/Comfort that it gives to riders

Alone ABS makes a great difference. Recently one of my friend fell from his CBR and i guess to some extent ABS would had saved him!!

Ask me, when suddenly my bike skids on highway for nonsense car people braking in middle of highway, That time you really call god for miracle and you are saved to write it here!!

The story is as usual. ROFL.No wonders of you guys.

And Aargee, If you are so fond of sources, better reach me via PM or phone. I can soothe your hunger for proofs for sure. A die hard fan for nothing. I know truth always bites.

Why PM or phone? I don't understand?

Anyone can claim anything for that matter just because we all have an internet connection & PC in front of us. There're so many things that floats around here & I'm sure you're aware of all that.

When you say something in public forum, why not show the proofs here? Why to do something in secret? Let other's also know what's going on unless you want to chicken out

Why don't you just put up the source right here in this thread?

@pravu: Back your allegations up with credible sources asap or take them back. Your Rofl-ing and careless allegations could influence one or more guys to skip the CBR, and propagate this drivel to everyone else they know. Without credible sources, you risk maligning the reputation of one of the biggest motorcycle manufacturers in the world. A company that has been responsible for the tech revolution in our motorcycling industry. The company that triggered our power commuter era, and the company that has invested heavily in our country. If it comes down to your word vs Honda, we'll all always back Honda, unless you give us credible reason to think otherwise. And that doesn't make any of us fanboy's. We're just grateful that Honda is around in our market, putting out excellent products. Yes, they may have niggles, serious flaws too. But not the kind you are alleging. Sources now, please. If any of your allegations are true, I promise to bring it out to Honda, the press and whoever else could help.

@aargee: when will this ever stop? cannot stand the forum when this crap happens. How do you bear it?

I take anything for discussion; it proves to be a point when it has credible points to support; knock it off when it doesn't. If one has open mind & willingness to learn, nothing is considered as crap. Happened to learn it from one of the greatest mind in this forum - PSR Sir.

ROFL.....

What can be called as CRAP for a bike ??

Din't brake when you wanted ? Or ABS din't work ? or Handle came out ? or wheels broke/came out ? or suddenly your bike exploded ??
Or your accelerator/clutch wireskeep breaking in a month?
or Tyres are like ICE skating on roads ??
Or Even a 70-80cc vehicle with a pillion over takes you when you are single on CBR ?
or bike is smoking like Deisel engine ?
or radiator is only for name , don't work ?
or FI is useless doesn't brake??

Or someone gave you some good money to abuse HONDA / CBR?? or something else ??


Still thinking how can CBR 250 be blamed as CRAP ??

Please advice ?? And is this bike yours or someones else ?? If you find it so crap then i guess you might have sold it and brought some other bike ?? isn't it ??
There has to be some reasons which makes you say it as a CRAP !!

It just gets my goat when baseless allegations and rumours make their way into these threads. I don't even like the CBR, but it is impossible to disrespect Honda's role in our market for the past 25+ years. Will need a bullet through my skull to open my mind to this drivel, nothing less. You keep fighting the good fight Sir, we're lucky to have you.

Somen...now your comments are more hilarious ROTFL

Fight? Me? I thought I was laying down simple straight facts; I'd say we're all fortunate to have each others here

lol... Actually i was thinking how can a person get irritated or say crap to a product ? So started the scenarios which can make it utter shit product?? And AFAIK CBR has some small niggles but can be solved, in which tyres are one of it and people change it to Pirili model.

Must be the ASC; I happened to see one of Pravu's earlier post where he was complaining about the Honda ASC; sometimes, yes, we blame the manufacturer for the lousy service that we get.