Pune to nearest Sea - how many Km? From the place I stay to sea...22.6Km

I can post mine too...it doesn't have rust now...after lubing

[QUOTE=antz.bin;890843]been lubed just twice in the last 3 months.
But how many Km? Mine has done about 1800 in last 2 weeks!!! Had to lube twice;

Unless you're thoughtful to it, it's not. My point to Pravu was only to state that, either he's ignorant about the issues with other bikes OR he doesn't want to see them or both; like I keep saying, every motorcycle has issues, it's up to the owner to live up to it as there's no bike is perfect in the world. If it were, then we wouldn't be having so many brands & models isn't it? And most importantly, CBR 250R isn't that bad to be termed for words like "CRAP"

Thank you; but we did have a reputation of posts (and threads) getting deleted the moment they were posted in the past & hence the apprehension. Anyway, it's immaterial now as it doesn't happen these days.

Sssshaabba!!!

Reading the past few posts.. this is my view on them:

1. Manufacturers are not to be held responsible for the actions (or lack of) a ASC ?? People suggesting we change the ASC because they do not provide proper service.
My view: ASC are the front end to the manufacturers, just because a few of us (here on forums etc..) are aware of contacting the Manufacturer/emailing them directly etc.. doesn't mean every person knows these means of contacting the manufacturers. For at least 80% of them i would say ASC is the first and last point of interaction, beyond which they go to a third party mech ('local mech') or simply diss the product.

2. I don't think we should beg, convince, befriend, bribe(give money for chai pani ) etc etc.. to get proper service for our vehicles from the ASC. It is their duty to service the vehicles and provide spares - and if they are not able to fix an issue, they should direct us to the right party (another ASC etc..). In most cases it is their replies like 'saar its like that only' , 'there is no problem' and make the customer run around. This is totally unacceptable!

Analogy : If you went to doctor and the treatment wasn't correct, what would you do? Is the hospital not responsible for the doctor's action? Would you have the same amount of patience (while dealing with an ASC) if it were your health ?

Lastly... every bike will/may have issues either right off the factory or due to some wear n tear (unexpected or unfactored in by the manufacturer) or error on the rider, but it is the ASC that has to look into them and solve them (by contacting the manufacturer if necessary). And to the point were aargee mentioned that some bikes are a product of 'over-boring' >> at some point before this overbore it started off on paper... evolution is fair in war and manufacturing (i am not sure on evolution in love )

Most of the cases the customer in India is a Goat.. WHY ? He is welcomed with a garland and treated to some chai etc at the time of enquiring/buying the bike, and after a few days its RAMZAN (no offence to religion!!)
And i don't think we should be comparing the government services with the private players... now imagine the govt making automobiles

All this is OT to this thread.

If a 150 cc engine can be fitted in 250cc frame, then can 250cc engine be fitted in 150cc Frame ??

I don't think so. A 150 cc frame will be much smaller than the one for 250 cc and you can't fit it in, yet I still couldn't believe that a 150cc engine was fit in a 250 frame. I mean didn't the guy who bought the bike not notice it when he took the delivery? or did he? If he hadn't noticed it during the PDI, then there's some fault on his side too.

Can you spot out just seeing an engine which bike has what cc ?? I am into biking from last more than 15 yrs but I can't say which engine is of which cc just looking at it!!!

I think no one can do that, unless until they know the bore sizes!!

What I meant is that, if you look at the engines used for Cbr 150 r and CBR 250 R, you can easily find the differences. If you don't believe me, just take a closer look next time you see them. I don't know how it is for other rides, but when it comes to the CBR, surely the engines differ when you look at the 150 and 250 cc. Atleast I have noticed the difference.

It was just the cylinder that was 'swapped' not the entire engine!(i hope thats what he meant) so stop worrying about the frame etc

I thought what he said was that a CBR 250 R was fit with a 150 cc engine. So I thought, they put the 150 engine on the 250 bike, if it was the cylinder though, I don't know how he found out. Did he dismantle the engine to find it out or some mechanic/service guy observed it?

Update: Went to the showroom again, and booked the CBR 250 R ABS . I'll have to wait 2 months till I get the ride, I hope it will be in time for my upcoming b'day .

II Update: Unexpected turn of events. I had to cancel the booking and wait for few more months as my parents aren't allowing me to get a new ride due to astrological reason . Looks like I won't be able to get one till mid 2013 by which the next version of the duke will be out. Yes I mean the 390 and it comes with the ABS. Keeping my fingers crossed for the D390.

the 390 shud be here around mid 2013, if you can wait that long
i almost booked the d200 but the price shot up and i gave up
i am wondering if i shud get the p200ns now (or something like a unicorn n sell it off after a year and get the d390) - ( i would hopefully have enough money by then)!

I'm gonna pay a visit to the Probiking showroom and try and get details about the 390. Maybe I'll make a pre-order when the booking starts . What I find very interesting is the pricing of the 390. Some website said that the pricing expected would be around 1.9 L ex-showroom. Even if they are understating the price by about 10~15% , its still a very competitive price. Since I'm gonna have to wait till next year or so, dad has agreed to raise the budget to 2.5~3 L. Also not to mention the Honda CBF/R 500 that will come around by next year. Although I doubt they will be within my budget. If say Honda released their rides for a lesser price within 3 L range, I might pick them, else I will be much happier to take the 390. There's only a tiny difference between the power and torque of the two machines. I don't like the looks of the CBF 500. But the CBR 500 is better in terms of looks.

Both these are reasonably good. Go for any you like. For city purpose, duke is better option.

Another update. I'm in a great fix at the moment. I now have a 4L budget, but not the rides that I'm expecting. That pretty much takes both the D200 and CBR 250 off the list. Here's what I have in my mind right now. All these rides are yet to enter the market. Probably by next year.

1. Ninja 300 ABS
2. Duke 390R (If at all there exists one)
3. CBR 500R (If at all it comes to India)

So far, I know that the Ninja is coming to India by next year (probably Q2). I'm not sure of the 500 R since when I asked one of the dealers, they said they don't have any info on that. And the faired D390 is much of a speculation. But if its released by Q3 of 2013, I might try it out. No official word on that either. I'm more preferred to the Ninja as its neither too low nor too high when it comes to power. As I've mentioned before, my future rides will be bigger machines, preferably litre class. Regarding the 500R, if it comes to India, will it be a good idea to jump into the 500CC segment straight away or is it better to do it like 300,600 and 1000? I'm quite confident of riding it even if its a 500cc. But I just want to hear your opinions.

It's on your confidence and maturity level. I know a guy who never owned a bike, but owned a R1directly. If you are comfortable with bigger cc then go for it. As your budget has gone up then look at hyosung GT650N or even N 650. But you have to take loan also.Bro 4L is a big amount think 100 times before you buy........

I think you should wait for the CBR 500.It seems ideally placed.
Duke 390R hasn't even been unveiled yet,the CEO just stating that it is under 'development'.So it is safe to assume it won't be here until 2014.

As for the Ninja 300,I don't think it will ever be sold at the same price as the 250R,with additions like slipper clutch and added equipment and a most probable duty hike in 2013.
From purely a price to performance and value for money perspective I suggest the CBR 500.

However if you are a discerning sports bike enthusiast and want precise and agile cornering characteristics ,nothing like the Ninja.I can personally vouch for that .The current one is a gem of a machine and I am sure the new one will live up to its reputation.

Isn't the N650 and GT650N over my budget? Last time I checked, they were near 5L exshowroom. Not sure whether my dad is gonna take a loan, maybe he will pay the money in 2 or 3 installments.
Ofcourse I know that a N300 will cost more than a CBR 250. I think it will be around 3.2~3.5L. I've also heard that the CBR 500R is also gonna be priced around 3.5 or 3.75L range, but the thing is, I haven't been able to get any kind of confirmation from them about whether they are bringing it to India or not. Surely I think it won't be before the 300's launch. If I could get any official confirmation that 500R will come to India before or by Q3 of 2013, I'll surely try it out.