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Go with classic 500. It will not disappoint you in giving you a classic look as well as give a good look for city commuting as well. Engine and ride quality wise rest remain the sameOriginally posted by Avinash_A View Post
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Both are same technically except the fi.which makes a minute difference in power and torque.seat height is a bit lower in classic 500.for me every Enfield is a real bullet.price difference is around 10000.go with what your heart saysOriginally posted by Avinash_A View PostWhich bike to choose between CLASSIC 500 VS BULLET 500??
Both the bikes are tempting one! Look wise similar to each other... But somewhat in mind I am getting a echo that CLASSIC is not a real BULLET!
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Which bike to choose between CLASSIC 500 VS BULLET 500??
Both the bikes are tempting one! Look wise similar to each other... But somewhat in mind I am getting a echo that CLASSIC is not a real BULLET!
So what are the pros and cons of both these bikes? Any expert advice!
My childhood dream was to ride a bullet one fine day, so somewhere tug of war is happening in mind between Technology (FI in CLASSIC) VS Real Vintage Heritage
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Ok I must have searched for a specific thread before I created one on my own.
Please help me with this.
There's a 2007 thunderbird 350, done 40k kms, single owner, rust free and looks pretty good.
The guy is quoting me 50k for it. Is it worth it? Are the lean burn avl engines good? Looking forward to expert insight
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It costs around 1,10,000 ex-showroomOriginally posted by HyperRetard View PostJust wondering, how much does a Std 350 cost Ex-showroom?
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Just wondering, how much does a Std 350 cost Ex-showroom?
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A quick question: I have made the payment for my Standard 350 and the registration is expected to happen anytime this week. When I asked if I could check the vehicle before the registration happens, I was told no. The salesman, who has been quite nice until now assured me that I will be getting a "fresh piece" from the factory. I have read a lot of folks doing pre-delivery inspections. Is this not the norm anymore? Or, does it change from showroom to showroom?
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Thanks achyutish for patiently answering all queries in detail. That really helped a lot.
I have one more query. The RE sales guy has average knowledge apparently. Can the suspension be softened on the TD bike as well? I mean are you referring to the setting on the base of the suspension by twisting it to different point?
2 years/20,000Km is great. RE website still mentioned 1 year/10k Kms so I was willing to let that go in terms of paint. Secondly thats why I was talking about the Ash colour bcoz traffic cops don't know the difference between Ash and Tan (hopefully).Originally posted by achyutish View PostCan be done, but the "base" colour, i.e., the colour registered with should remain the same. Also, the dealers might crib on repainting before warranty is over (and RE now gives 2yr/20k KM warranty, which is pretty long)
Changing Maroon, silver, Black to Tan is more obvious I feel. Otherwise all colours look amazing on Classic. Will keep your input in mind and maybe will get that maroon stripe on the existing colour instead.
I agree that it does change the looks a bit but I was planning for a minor sacrifice if the gains are worth it. The spring seat of classic had a bouncy feel. Will check the alternatives and see the suspension softening thing.Originally posted by achyutish View PostGet the suspension softened. That seat is real good. I have a TBTS type seat lying at my home. Bought it for 4.2k. The problem is if you change the seat, you should also change the handle to electra which is higher than classic, but it spoils the whole look of the classic plus the classic's handlebar is a real beauty.
Thats great. I have a dream of going to Leh on a motorcycle someday. It may or may not materialize but I thought TBTS would eliminate the need of carrying petrol in luggage. 550km range of CL is decent in itself.Originally posted by achyutish View PostSmall, indeed it is, but only when compared to the TBTS. Other bikes provide similar tanks. And if ridden sanely, It'll give more than a 550Km of tank range. I myself get a constant 47/48kmpl from the CL350. As for TBTS 350, it perhaps has the longest tank range in the whole world.
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Let me take it part by part and answer it up (with my limited knowledge, that is)
Originally posted by PaddleShifter View PostHi guys, please help me with a few queries as I have no prior experience with a cruiser bike or a RE. -All RE's are not cruisers. Only Thunderbird is. Others (Electra,STD,CL,GT535) are retro street category.
Top priority from all my vehicles has always been that they should look good for sure. -RE's ACE the "looks" dept.
Classic 350 [appealed to Heart]
Pros:
- Beautiful colours in Classic, esp Ash and Tan (only in 500cc but I guess 350 can be repainted to that). - Can be done, but the "base" colour, i.e., the colour registered with should remain the same. Also, the dealers might crib on repainting before warranty is over (and RE now gives 2yr/20k KM warranty, which is pretty long)
- Less tech so cheaper to maintain. Price of headlight, speedo console etc. - I do not know of TB, but Classic is dirt cheap to maintain. I do a monthly service costing me 250 bucks and change the oil at 2k interval. My drum lasted for 15k KMs and my disk is still strong after 17k+ running, so that's something to say. Rubbers are the same.
Cons:
- No rear disc brakes. Braking felt bad after driving a thunderbird - I Do not know how to put this and probably, and rightly so, would be burned alive for this, but I *feel* drum is NOT that bad. Recently there was an oil spill on the road where I stay. My disks were unusable due to the sludge & grime paste that was made out of the oil with road dirt, but the drums, being internal expanding, worked to steer me through it cautiously.
- "Bouncy" front seat. Felt like a deal breaker. Can be changed to TBTS seat? -Get the suspension softened. That seat is real good. I have a TBTS type seat lying at my home. Bought it for 4.2k. The problem is if you change the seat, you should also change the handle to electra which is higher than classic, but it spoils the whole look of the classic plus the classic's handlebar is a real beauty.
- Less gadgetry. No tacho, no MID. - Genuine problems, but I *personally* have never missed them.
- Seating position felt bit awkward to me with the handlebar being too close. (I am 6' tall, 85+Kg). Maybe installing handlebar of TBTS will solve that? - Read my point above.
- Smaller fuel tank (13.5 litres) - Small, indeed it is, but only when compared to the TBTS. Other bikes provide similar tanks. And if ridden sanely, It'll give more than a 550Km of tank range. I myself get a constant 47/48kmpl from the CL350. As for TBTS 350, it perhaps has the longest tank range in the whole world.
Thunderbird 350 [Appealed to head]
Pros:
- Better front seat, better handle, better seating position (personal).
- Rear disc brake. Felt so good to apply rear brakes on a TBTS.
- Bigger fuel tank (20 liters) so more range per tankful of fuel.
- Rear LED lights look so elegant.
- More gadgets in speedo console.
Cons:
- Taller in height and shorter in length so doesn't look as beautiful and heart captivating as a Classic.
Summary is that CL350 looks more beautiful while TBTS felt more comfortable and has better brakes too.
Can you guys please help with your inputs. And please answer the following queries as well> Thanks in advance.
1. Can TBTS seat and handlebar be fitted on a CL and will that give 'almost' similar comfort as a TBTS? - Yes It can be, but would spoil the whole look as well as the geometry
2. Possible to repaint a CL350 Ash colour to the Tan colour of CL500 giving exact, good finish? Or is painting not recommended but rather body parts should be replaced? you can paint, but that would need you to necessitate necessary changes to your smartcard which is a hassle in itself. My suggestion would be to get the mudguards of the CL500(would fit without hassle) and to use chrome strip vinyls in the tank.
3. Can experienced members compare the level of vibrations in TBTS350 vs CL350? Vibs are a part of the RE experience. It has an awesome torque. Ride it at 50 KMPH in 5th gear and that rich messaging experience of phuket would be delivered to you.
Jokes apart, you will get used to the Vibrations. But Vibes will be there. CL is more pronounced due to the shorter handlebar. TBTS Butterfly Handlebars vibrates a wee bit less
Just ONE point. When you are choosing a "ROYAL ENFIELD" your mind should have ALREADY stopped working. Get the one your heart desires. The only point of TBTS is that awesome DRL cum projector headlight and that awesome tank range, both of which is great to have but not much to crib if you don't. and as per me, TB ain't a "BULLET".
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Hi guys, please help me with a few queries as I have no prior experience with a cruiser bike or a RE.
I am 30 years old, 6 feet, 85+Kg with 6 years of city biking experience when I owned a Karizma from 2004-2011.
My intended use is mainly weekend driving, highway driving that may be extended to daily city commute as well.
Top priority from all my vehicles has always been that they should look good for sure.
I have removed all bikes (Gixxer SF, RS200, Avenger etc.) from my shortlist except the RE bikes mainly because most bikes these days look just a bit small for tall riders.
RE bikes are available on spot delivery or at the most 1 week of waiting for all models except the standard bullet (which has a waiting period owing to its very high demand in Chandigarh/Punjab). So that adds to my confusion as I can not book first and then have months for thinking.
I am listing a few Pros and Cons of both models as per my own personal opinion.
Classic 350 [appealed to Heart]
Pros:
- Longer and shorter so looks so much more beautiful.
- Beautiful colours in Classic, esp Ash and Tan (only in 500cc but I guess 350 can be repainted to that).
- Classic looks more beautiful than TBTS.
- Less tech so cheaper to maintain. Price of headlight, speedo console etc.
Cons:
- No rear disc brakes. Braking felt bad after driving a thunderbird.
- "Bouncy" front seat. Felt like a deal breaker. Can be changed to TBTS seat?
- Less gadgetry. No tacho, no MID.
- Seating position felt bit awkward to me with the handlebar being too close. (I am 6' tall, 85+Kg). Maybe installing handlebar of TBTS will solve that?
- Smaller fuel tank (13.5 litres)
Thunderbird 350 [Appealed to head]
Pros:
- Better front seat, better handle, better seating position (personal).
- Rear disc brake. Felt so good to apply rear brakes on a TBTS.
- Bigger fuel tank (20 liters) so more range per tankful of fuel.
- Rear LED lights look so elegant.
- More gadgets in speedo console.
Cons:
- Taller in height and shorter in length so doesn't look as beautiful and heart captivating as a Classic.
Summary is that CL350 looks more beautiful while TBTS felt more comfortable and has better brakes too.
Can you guys please help with your inputs. And please answer the following queries as well> Thanks in advance.
1. Can TBTS seat and handlebar be fitted on a CL and will that give 'almost' similar comfort as a TBTS?
2. Possible to repaint a CL350 Ash colour to the Tan colour of CL500 giving exact, good finish? Or is painting not recommended but rather body parts should be replaced?
3. Can experienced members compare the level of vibrations in TBTS350 vs CL350?Last edited by PaddleShifter; 09-06-2015, 01:13 PM.
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The self start doesn't need any throttle on mine though, but maybe your brother is right about the high idle rpm set thing..Originally posted by deejayrox View PostSorry about going OT, but I had a noob query. I got delivery of my desert Storm yesterday. Now if I'm pressing self start, the starter cranks, but the bike does not start unless I apply some slight throttle. This is the case even after running in the evening for approx. 30km or so. Now my bro who had came with me for delivery said that there is nothing to worry about that as usually at the time of delivery the idle rpm is set a bit high and they will revert to a lower rpm after first service and this is the reason why it wont start without throttle. Is it true or should I be worried?
Apart from that the delivery experience was average-okayish. No explanation about my ride or anything, even the bike was not washed properly. But I was in a hurry so did a quick inspection and left. Also I guess my name will be messed up in the RC book and in the insurance paper, so that is another headache.
On your first free service your bike will be cleaned so well it'll look better than when you took delivery of it
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Sorry about going OT, but I had a noob query. I got delivery of my desert Storm yesterday. Now if I'm pressing self start, the starter cranks, but the bike does not start unless I apply some slight throttle. This is the case even after running in the evening for approx. 30km or so. Now my bro who had came with me for delivery said that there is nothing to worry about that as usually at the time of delivery the idle rpm is set a bit high and they will revert to a lower rpm after first service and this is the reason why it wont start without throttle. Is it true or should I be worried?
Apart from that the delivery experience was average-okayish. No explanation about my ride or anything, even the bike was not washed properly. But I was in a hurry so did a quick inspection and left. Also I guess my name will be messed up in the RC book and in the insurance paper, so that is another headache.
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Well you have your answer. Standard is the one..Originally posted by srs View PostStandard 350 - I rode it with a grin across my face. Ear to ear. On both test drives. Best experience.
Electra - Easiest U-turn but lacked the joy of the Standard 350.
Classic 350 - It was good and not that different from the Electra.
Thunderbird 350 - It wasn't what I expected at all. I returned after 50 meters or so.
Iff.. u do want to choose b/w Classic and electra, classic it is..
classic
1. colour options to choose from.
2. pilion seat can be removed. believe me the single seated Classic is damn sexy !!
3. disc brakes..
by the way all the 3 versions share the same heart.. choose what your heart wants !!
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Right, so after much resistance I finally gave into the temptation of giving Royal Enfield a shot. I went for a test drive yesterday and I absolutely fell in love with the Standard 350. I also tried the other bikes and I am listing them below along with my observations:
Standard 350 - I rode it with a grin across my face. Ear to ear. On both test drives. Best experience.
Electra - Easiest U-turn but lacked the joy of the Standard 350.
Classic 350 - It was good and not that different from the Electra.
Thunderbird 350 - It wasn't what I expected at all. I returned after 50 meters or so.
Now, I went through the specs and the differences between the Electra, Classic 350 and Standard 350 isn't much. Colour options, gas powered shock absorbers, slight dimensional variations, electric start and disc brakes. Otherwise everything is the same.
Are the above differences worth sacrificing that grin? I have used drum-brakes all along and I drive very conservatively. If they are, which would be a better choice - the Electra or the Classic 350?Last edited by srs; 07-28-2015, 05:08 PM.
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guys, would applying teflon layer coating anyway void the warranty ?
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