The Official Pune Offline Meet(G2G) Thread

[pronoy_banerjee]

Any updates

Hey Guys, I finally finished my exams

I'd be coming to pune from bhopal on 29th this month,I plan to take the NH3 from indore to nashik then Nh-50, any updates on these highways regarding their condition.??

heard about a lot of diversions on NH-3 near nashik.

[shrinathrao]

Instead of putting all those hypothetical questions on thread, why don't you ask them during our G2Gs? Nav75 and Niks both were present in last one. Why not get your query answered there & then?

Sirji, I came and you disappeared. So it slipped out. And everyone knows you are a big supporter of noobs like me.

[ROCKRZ]

nice to see a meaning full discussion on the thread.
I dont have much to contribute regarding this topic but do continue... many of us just read and try to learn.

btw, any rides this weekend? i am looking for a ride of around 300 kms this weekend...

[sundaram2329]

hey guys!!...just got back from mumbai...any plans for this sunday?? do tell me we have somethin in store.......LAST RIDE OF THE YEAR !!!

[siddharth_ZMR]

sorry to interrupt such a nice discussion.... how about riding to KOLAD on 25.12.11.... suggestions please......

I agree with Tenhut and others that details of cornering cant be learned on forums but basics learnt here help novice like me to avoid the initial set of mistakes.....

Anyways.... great to see good discussion on the thread!!!

[niks_devil666]

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[antz.bin]

Hey Guys, I finally finished my exams

I'd be coming to pune from bhopal on 29th this month,I plan to take the NH3 from indore to nashik then Nh-50, any updates on these highways regarding their condition.??

heard about a lot of diversions on NH-3 near nashik.

While coming from bhopal, take the exit @Malegaon towards Manmad and continue towards Shirdi-Kopargaon-Ahmednagar-Pune. This option is MUCH better(and shorter) than Nasik-Pune. Road condition inside Ahmednagar district is ALWAYS better than Nasik-Pune NH50.

[Sumit_B]

After reading all the inputs related to cornering, came to a conclusion that "Live demos are always better"

When's the next cornering session??? ( 150 - 250cc segment )

[rohitlc]

Nice weekend with good discussion going on and almost extinct members coming back.... Our efforts seem to be paying off.

[scarface]

Have ridden a few times at the limit of traction, though never on big bikes.
- Riding though few sections of a road covered with a layer of crushed ice. The actual layer was a few inches thick but trucks that went by had created a canal of crushed ice. There, even any kind of acceleration was putting the rear into a slide. Forget about using the brakes. At places fall meant end of life as it was on the edge of a valley. (Straight section on a flat surface)
- Riding uphill for a couple of km's on freshly snowed road. With traction at its lowest best, it wasn't as bad as previous case (of riding on crushed ice), we had only option to control the bike via acceleration and gravity working in out favour. (Straight section uphill with a few curves)
- Heavy rains for almost 150+km's of ghats and twisties. For most of times, the speed was controlled via throttle and gear box.
- Coming downhill on a dirt track. I was already in 1st gear and had to cut the speed and the only option I had was rear brake. This was done a few times.


I would love to see this in action sometime. As per the theory and basic physics, without leaning the bike, it got to run wide. How wide, will depend on how much you gas.


Have scraped my bike's foot pegs, while leaning the bike. You can't lean a bike more than that. As I haven't crashed yet while leaning the bike, I guess I haven't yet tested the limit and I would like to keep it like that for as long as I can, on public roads.
Even on other bikes that have their foot pegs a bit more rear wards, you can lean the bike only to an extent before running out of traction (due to low contact patch). Then the solution is to start body shifting. Body shifting is fine on a section of twisties that you are aware of but not on an unknown road. As when you start shifting your body weight, your vision into the turn, as compared to more upright body position will be reduced. Reducing vision into a corner on a public road, isn't the best thing to do.


Fundamentals don't change but the rider who is pushing the limits is going to crash more often than the rider who is not pushing close to the limits. Hence, what a rider pushing to limits might not do, the rider who is taking it safe could do.
While there are many riders who are against using of trail braking and braking while in a corner, there are also many people who do either/both of them. Including some racers.


Talking about credentials, not doubting theirs but without sounding rude, I got close to 3L km's of riding on Indian roads in various conditions (1lane, 2lane, 4lane, 6 lane, 8 lane roads; back roads; mountain roads; off-roads; ice; snow; gravel; etc).

Ask those racers, sometimes it feels so easy/safe to ride on a race track than an average Indian road.

Since we keep learning all the time, the reason why I'm going to CSS to learn new things.

People were riding before google or its creators were even born and most of them did decently good at riding.


Have been to track a few times, including a riding school. Have done my share of doing no-brakes, entry-point, exit-point, apex, front brake only drills.
The reason why trail braking/braking in corner on track could/should be banned for beginners is that there are ZERO variables on the track to worry about. On track one can easily push as hard as one wants. And as I said previously, trail braking/braking in corner could land you in trouble when you are pushing close to limits.
On street, at least I, don't push anywhere close to the limit. Hence, I haven't faced any issues with trail braking/braking in corner at way below riding on limit. But that's just me.
May be, over a few cup of their choice of beverage, I will have a 1-1 conversation with the instructor to get their views about the same.


There are a few things that we can't replicate in a controlled environment. Like for example, a steep downhill with a U turn at the end (extent of slope, you can judge that the bike would be doing close to 80-90km/hr without accelerating).
You would already be in 1st gear at the start to turn, would have braked to cut down all the speed. But still you will keep gaining speed due to the slope. Here, you got to brake to but cut speed, example of trail braking.

Not that I always use trail braking/rear brake in a corner. Just that in some cases I find trail braking/braking in corner to be safer than otherwise.

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I'd like to see Nav75's funda @ lavasa ... how about tomorrow?

[kartikpai]

Hi All,

Sorry if this post goes out of discussion range .. If any one is able to lend me a tripod for the following period 26th Dec - 10th Jan , please let me know. I am heading to a small backpacking trip.. Not on my bike .. But just on public transports.. I am heading to Hassan -- Belur-- Halebidu--Karkala--Sringeri--Agumbe & places around my native.

Thanks,
Kartik G Pai

[inder.cool]

Re: The Official Pune Offline Meet(G2G) Thread

Pune thread is ALIVE!!

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[prakhararya]

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[Sumit_B]

Handgloves??

Hi guys, want to buy handgloves in a day or two...short listed DSG primal and cramster TRG-2 (Attached pics of both the gloves n their features). Palm protecter is missing in Cramster whereas DSG primal has it. Shall I go for DSG? My budget is Rs.2500. Any other suggestions within this range?? Thanks.

EDIT: I have seen both the gloves, wore them. According to me, both are equally good and comfortable. Just need an expert opinion before I go for one.

[Eshan-P180]

Hi guys, want to buy handgloves in a day or two...short listed DSG primal and cramster TRG-2 (Attached pics of both the gloves n their features). Palm protecter is missing in Cramster whereas DSG primal has it. Shall I go for DSG? My budget is Rs.2500. Any other suggestions within this range?? Thanks.

EDIT: I have seen both the gloves, wore them. According to me, both are equally good and comfortable. Just need an expert opinion before I go for one.

Go for Primal buddy.
Not much strain on hand and the design of the glove for long touring is quite good. Also palm protection is present on the glove.

TRG2 is bit uncomfy when considering long rides. Thats personal experience.

In terms of reliability both should last long.

TRG2 can be called as a stiff glove, break in would be quite long. Primal is soft and has better components.