The Official Mumbai Offline Meet(G2G) Thread

[j4zb4]

Heard there were few accidents... Some serious ones... Why is there no mention of them...? And certain people just walked away from the scene and didn't bother to help anyone... Is this our so called "brotherhood"...?

I do not now the whole picture so I wont comment too much... But what I heard was really shocking and very very disappointing...

[niks_devil666]

I heard there was a hit and run case ... no details other than this

[j4zb4]

^^ It was more like the guy who hit was battling alone as the remaining "brotherhood" just ran away...

[darkknight]

^^ It was more like the guy who hit was battling alone as the remaining "brotherhood" just ran away...

if you donot know the details husain than isnt it better to first get complete information?

fb has enough discussions on & a consensus has been arrived at to better discuss it in person rather than playing the roles of keyboard warriors

[nav75]

A few friends who were riding to Rajamchi, when they overtook a group. Some riders on 220, CBR and ZMA(not sure which group they were) upped their pace and re-passed them as if they wanted to get their position in the race back.
And they almost crashed while negotiating a curve.

Now in this case, no amount of riding gear will help. What would have helped is, what I am saying since beginning: "Safe riding" practice and proper group riding.
Yes, we can make one wear all the safety gear in the world but if he isn't going to ride safe, even the best of gear will be of no use.

[darkknight]

A few friends who were riding to Rajamchi, when they overtook a group. Some riders on 220, CBR and ZMA(not sure which group they were) upped their pace and re-passed them as if they wanted to get their position in the race back.
And they almost crashed while negotiating a curve.

Now in this case, no amount of riding gear will help. What would have helped is, what I am saying since beginning: "Safe riding" practice and proper group riding.
Yes, we can make one wear all the safety gear in the world but if he isn't going to ride safe, even the best of gear will be of no use.

everyone has now confirmed to this point nav -- lets also wait for pune g2g discussion the coming Wednesday to further this point.
will also help if you join the pune people so that things discussed are finalised & hopefully applied by everyone

[j4zb4]

if you donot know the details husain than isnt it better to first get complete information?

fb has enough discussions on & a consensus has been arrived at to better discuss it in person rather than playing the roles of keyboard warriors

Thats precisely why I came on this thread on a hectic Monday Nitin...

Its not about being a keyboard warrior Nitin... I would ask the same questions face to face... I am not scared... When I heard about this I was concerned and came here to know the exact things... But all I see are happy posts describing how good the Sunday was and no mentions of any mishaps...

[darkknight]

Thats precisely why I came on this thread on a hectic Monday Nitin...

Its not about being a keyboard warrior Nitin... I would ask the same questions face to face... I am not scared... When I heard about this I was concerned and came here to know the exact things... But all I see are happy posts describing how good the Sunday was and no mentions of any mishaps...

saale tu scared --tereko hi dekh kar raat mein lo ghabraate hain

the reason as specified earlier is clear & once things are resolved it will be posted here.

[alankarmisra]

saale tu scared --tereko hi dekh kar raat mein lo ghabraate hain

the reason as specified earlier is clear & once things are resolved it will be posted here.

LOL yeah Husain does look like quite the villain these days.

@DK: Actually I got the full information moments ago (thanks Husain for sparking my interest). And while I will refrain from posting the specifics here or discussing it right away, don't you think its high time xbhp started posting specific details of accidents and the like online while witholding sensitive information like names etc? I think, and this is just an opinion, that people deserve to know what goes on in rides not for voyeuristic pleasure but so that they know that things really do go wrong in rides, so we don't come across looking like theoretical bikers who keep preaching guidelines which nobody needs to read - I mean why would I bother if I assume everything is beautiful and Megan Fox wants to spend quality time with me. Its understandable there would be an ensuing discussion which would run into pages but I think that's important - moreover the meeting on Wednesday could benefit from the perspectives you get here because not everyone is going to be present at the meet and this should serve as a good channel to voice their opinions.

No? Just thinking aloud!

Edit: BTW, its interesting how only days ago we were discussing the importance of a group riding culture based on another incident which occurred a few weeks earlier and just a few days later, all hell breaks lose again. I'm not patting myself on the back, I'm extremely sad and disillusioned with the episode but yeah looks like we are on the right track by at least identifying the problem correctly. I understand it will take time to come up with and enforce solutions.

[satyenpoojary]

Thats precisely why I came on this thread on a hectic Monday Nitin...

Its not about being a keyboard warrior Nitin... I would ask the same questions face to face... I am not scared... When I heard about this I was concerned and came here to know the exact things... But all I see are happy posts describing how good the Sunday was and no mentions of any mishaps...

Who here knows how Hussain had his crash a lil while back

- There was no hit and run,
- The ride from Panvel to Lonavala was HORRIBLY planned and thus executed like that. From what I am being told by individuals is that people forgot the group protocols and started ripping. And so even the noobs who mentioned they had a nice time did so too...


There is a fundamental difference in the skill and approach towards the art of group riding. This was precisely why I was harping on every one to NOT leave with the bigger bikes or unknown groups. But I was in for a nice surprise when I came out of McD. Most of the people disappeared! I dont want to indluge in mudslinging but its a fact. For what? a stupid picture with\from the roadtrip team? wasnt there enough opportunity for that?
or brushing shoulders with the other groups whose riding style we arent sure off?

With only Saurabh, Tushar, and a few other hand full of people we began our ride and had a fun ride to the destination with NO incidents what so ever. Ofcourse we were a smaller group.

What beats me is this. If I can ride a Ninja650 in about an average speed of 60-70kmph why were the rest of you all ashamed in your f'cking punny bikes? Its not that I cant speed, its not that varsha is afraid of speed either. And trust me its not my arrogance about the big bike, Its that sense of responsibility when in a group. And THAT was grossly outnumbered!

[niks_devil666]

What beats me is this. If I can ride a Ninja650 in about an average speed of 60-70kmph why were the rest of you all ashamed in your f'cking punny bikes? Its not that I cant speed, its not that varsha is afraid of speed either. And trust me its not my arrogance about the big bike, Its that sense of responsibility when in a group. And THAT was grossly outnumbered!

you nailed it ! completely agree

[alankarmisra]

- There was no hit and run,

Partial truth and misleading! (although I don't see why??)

- The ride from Panvel to Lonavala was HORRIBLY planned and thus executed like that. From what I am being told by individuals is that people forgot the group protocols and started ripping. And so even the noobs who mentioned they had a nice time did so too...

Which is what I was thinking off. The current strategy is to call everyone at one location and then assume that some senior will take responsibility for figuring out lead/tail. With 100+ riders even if 2 seniors take responsibility, its impossible to control a bunch of adrenalin junkies waiting to try out their skills/prowess/stupidity against the bigger beasts. One suggestion would be to (strangely enough) agree with what Kakkar had to say ie plan ahead - figure out who is coming and assign riders to seniors - each senior making sure that only the allocated members ride with him - any addons could be allocated last minute. If a senior isn't coming, make it HIS responsibility to figure out an alternative. I know all this sounds like a lot of work, but given our experience with rides going wrong (and how) I think it would be worthwhile for xbhp to enforce standards. Note that I'm not suggesting we do this for every ride, only the mega g2gs where the number is too large, the number of unknowns too many and the magnitude of immature egos infinitely huge. And I suggest that the xbhp MODS do this actively instead of HOPING that someone would take responsibility. If there's nobody willing to take responsibility, simply cancel the ride. Seriously, lets not ride where we KNOWINGLY endanger riders and pedestrians.

[rkakkar]

I think most of us office going folks have a long weekend coming up. Would be a good time to hold a G2G for this. Also, I feel the forum should still be updated with all the details and not just the "final decision at the G2G" as there might be people who could not make it for the G2G but might hold valid points themselves.

[rkakkar]

Partial truth and misleading! (although I don't see why??)

+10000
Although I think I might know why, but still I don't feel the reason why should certain things be discussed among only a handful of people.

[niranjanvaidya]

Who here knows how Hussain had his crash a lil while back

- There was no hit and run,
- The ride from Panvel to Lonavala was HORRIBLY planned and thus executed like that. From what I am being told by individuals is that people forgot the group protocols and started ripping. And so even the noobs who mentioned they had a nice time did so too...


There is a fundamental difference in the skill and approach towards the art of group riding. This was precisely why I was harping on every one to NOT leave with the bigger bikes or unknown groups. But I was in for a nice surprise when I came out of McD. Most of the people disappeared! I dont want to indluge in mudslinging but its a fact. For what? a stupid picture with\from the roadtrip team? wasnt there enough opportunity for that?
or brushing shoulders with the other groups whose riding style we arent sure off?

With only Saurabh, Tushar, and a few other hand full of people we began our ride and had a fun ride to the destination with NO incidents what so ever. Ofcourse we were a smaller group.

What beats me is this. If I can ride a Ninja650 in about an average speed of 60-70kmph why were the rest of you all ashamed in your f'cking punny bikes? Its not that I cant speed, its not that varsha is afraid of speed either. And trust me its not my arrogance about the big bike, Its that sense of responsibility when in a group. And THAT was grossly outnumbered!

With no "Super Like" button around, I can only say that you hit the nail right on it's head.

Me, Inder, Ritwik and Roger had been to Amby Valley and on the way to the meet venue, saw a horde of riders, without any formation, scattered from the innermost lane to the outermost lane. Thankfully they were not speeding.

Leaves me to wonder, are people really thinking before riding? OR does just knowing how to keep a motorcyle on the move qualify people to be on group rides?