The Official Chennai Offline Meet(G2G) Thread

[sayhi2sai]

thanks for all the pointers guys...

the problem is i am currently in hyderabad and my bike's registration is of rajasthan so will not be able to get the NOC....

i dont know for how long i will be ther in chennai....

so if I preserve the transit recipt of train or the courier guys it shouldnt be a problem for at least an year?

the good thing is I always carry all the papers (except NOC) along with me at all times in original....

and my commute will be mostly around the chennai SEZ...

i dont have a problem paying the road tax in chennai if it can take the police off my back... but do I need the NOC to pay that as well? and after paying the road tax for how many days can I use the vehicle without the NOC or without getting new registration??

Section 48 of Indian Motor Vehicles act of 1988 clearly states that , you only need to obtain an NOC, if you need to apply for a new registration in a different state, which is mandatory after a period of 12 months. So for a period below 12 months, you can happily keep the bike in the new state. It's best if you can keep the railway transit receipt with you, if that's not available,(say you are riding your bike from a different state) get a pollution certificate on the last day from that state as a proof that you were physically present in a different state on that day.

And I don't think paying road tax here will solve anything, because the road tax we pay here is lifetime and not yearly. The process is to get an NOC from the state where the bike is originally registered. Submit that NOC in the state you are shifting to. Pay the roadtax again in the new state. Get that reciept, and claim for reimbursement of the roadtax you payed in the other state. As this is a very long and tedious process and generally involved bribing many people, it might never come through. Hope it helps...

[aargee]

I am not sure if ZMR can serve that purpose Aargee...are not bikes meant to be used in that fashion.

Whaaaaat??? Didn't expect to hear this from you Amit!!! C'mon man!!! I loved your's & Kirosh's ZMA.

@aargee, I can share my experience with my Ninja 250R.

Thanks to have chipped in Senthil; I certainly value your opinion

like going to office & shopping in peak traffic, heavy rain, mud & slush etc

This is my purpose of a 250cc bike too; be it ZMR/C250R or even the N250R

The general maintenance of Ninja is not at all expensive

Ah!!! Well, I've been going through the N250R ownership thread & people have reported every alternative service of about Rs 7K. That's way too expensive Senthil. Like I keep saying, buying is one time affair, but maintenance is for lifetime. My point on this highly paid service is that, I could extend a little further, say about 10K & then opt for a 600cc motorcycle, which is ideal weekend motorcycle. But right now, I'm not in a position to afford for a weekend ride.

I'm pretty sure that no variant of Karizma (stock condition) is capable of 140 Kmph top speed

Yes, I'm aware of that too. But like I said, its only a compromise; the next alternative. C250R will be an ideal bike, but HMSI has changed the delivery date to 6 times since Feb & I'm gradually loosing faith with the current delivery date they've promised.

Like PSR says, wait is good in a way; as the first lot of C250R's were prone to some issues with SHIM & weldings on frame. May be HMSI addresses them in their subsequent lots. But for sure, if HMSI/dealer changes the currently promised, mid Jul, delivery date, I'm sure to cancel my booking & no more Honda!!!

[Aparajith]

My 2 cents!

Aargee, ur requirements will not suit the ZMR. Reason being - Extra 8 - 10 kg weight via fairings with no increase in torque/power figures over the ZMA. If I am not wrong, it shud be slower than a ZMA!
U might break ur back, but the R15 might be better as its got a similar power figure to the ZMA With a lighter weight. I would suggest that u wait for the new R15.
Maybe am going OT here, but why dont u use the money to book the Ninja 650 and take an extended EMI so that it does not hurt u much? Its a lot more rugged - can be used as a daily commute and weekend ride as well.
HMSI's attitude is sickening at best! And why not try getting the CBR250R from a showroom outside Chennai? Say somewhere close - Vellore/Pondy etc and get the bike here for registration. U might get better service there due to the number of customers.

[Only Amit...]

Whaaaaat??? Didn't expect to hear this from you Amit!!! C'mon man!!! I loved your's & Kirosh's ZMA.

But for sure, if HMSI/dealer changes the currently promised, mid Jul, delivery date, I'm sure to cancel my booking & no more Honda!!!

My love for ZMA havent decreased Aargee...but it doesn't suit your requirements.

Aargee, ur requirements will not suit the ZMR. Reason being - Extra 8 - 10 kg weight via fairings with no increase in torque/power figures over the ZMA. If I am not wrong, it shud be slower than a ZMA!
Maybe am going OT here, but why dont u use the money to book the Ninja 650 and take an extended EMI so that it does not hurt u much? Its a lot more rugged - can be used as a daily commute and weekend ride as well.

You are right Apar...ZMR is bit slower but little more refined than ZMA.I don't think R15 can serve the purpose as well.

Aargee is not going for N250R just for the maintenance cost, but senthil has mentioned that its not that expensive.Aargee may be you can have a detailed discussion with baby ninja owners and reiterate on your thoughts.

[aargee]

ur requirements will not suit the ZMR

Somehow ZMR is more appealing to me than ZMA

but the R15 might be better as its got a similar power figure to the ZMA With a lighter weight. I would suggest that u wait for the new R15.

I saw the new R15 here; but I love the old R15 a lot; especially the RED one. I was contemplating to get one too. But somehow, I prefer using a 250cc for regular use.

Maybe am going OT here, but why dont u use the money to book the Ninja 650...daily commute and weekend ride as well.

Not a OT at all; loan & vehicle is something hard for me to digest, but that's me Hope I change my mindset in future. But yes, N650R is a good option, when it comes for a weekend ride. Certainly not for everyday commuting Apar. My standard of living has to improvise for that

HMSI's attitude is sickening at best

I'm really getting annoyed with them that, I'm thinking of selling my Activa too!!!

And why not try getting...better service there due to the number of customers.

I think even the tier II & III cities might be crowded by now. Even a mere 5-6 bookings at those dealerships means a lot to them.

Its the waiting time that is killing. If you look at the ownership thread, HMSI started delivering from Apr end/May 1st for people who've booked in Jan. Its June now, but still, HMSI has only cleared for people who've booked until mid Jan. It takes one whole month for them to get the bikes delivered for upto 15 days of booking.

[aargee]

Aargee may be you can have a detailed discussion with baby ninja owners and reiterate on your thoughts.

No Amit. Strictly no N250R as it is sure to burn out my pocket. After that I can only park it at home & not able to afford for fuel. And remember, I'm not selling any of my vehicles; so adding N250R to the stable is like almost maintaining another car. Which I can't afford for now.

Let's see where this killing wait leads to; otherwise, I'll have to settle with other options. But certainly, what HMSI is doing here is no good for sure.

[psr]

Aargee, i had patiently gone through the many models and manufacture of bikes as recollected in 'Ownership Experience', and there were only two bikes which satisfied the 2 R s I was looking for.. RELIABILITY and REFINEMENT..I had read through 400+ pages and 4,000+ posts in Karizma thread and there are no serious engine problem reported throughout.No disappearance of oil, no seizures, no engine break downs...and it is able to do a true 125 Kmph as top speed(140 speedo).Many have gone on long trips maintaining 100 to 110 Kmph for long duration without issues...
The other bike satisfying the 2 R s is the Ninja 250.
which is why i had expressed my opinion that a ZMA-R is VFM IF you are going to maintain 100 to 110 Kmph only. and a Ninja for above that...
The CBR is VFM in satisfying most of requirements of a tourer, but reports of problems does not induce confidence.
I took 6 months to get my ZMA-R..and every day and week was worth it.
So you can choose to wait and get a better reliable CBR...It is a waiting game, but the rewards will be worth it...esp., since your primary intention is to get a relaxed and capable tourer.

[aargee]

PSR ji, Apar, Amit, Sri - Just check this - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/news/177...tml#post644510

Kawasaki is also a Japanese company like Honda; they also manufacture at Thailand(HMSI has an edge of manufacturing plant in India), yet they can deliver in 90 days, while it takes 5 months (150+ days) for HMSI to deliver the ride here.

Ji, this is what I'm beginning to hate about Honda in India now!!! They seem to make artificial demand for their products. When they do so much drama now, imagine the scene with ASC & spares in the future.

[psr]

PSR ji, Apar, Amit, Sri - Just check this - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/news/177...tml#post644510

Kawasaki is also a Japanese company like Honda; they also manufacture at Thailand(HMSI has an edge of manufacturing plant in India), yet they can deliver in 90 days, while it takes 5 months (150+ days) for HMSI to deliver the ride here.

Ji, this is what I'm beginning to hate about Honda in India now!!! They seem to make artificial demand for their products. When they do so much drama now, imagine the scene with ASC & spares in the future.

Yes I was aware of the price last week and at 4.5 ex-showroom the pricing is a killer..compared to the N 250...Now they have to re think on the N 250 pricing....Kawasaki was quick to emerge in the market and take their place, while Honda chose to sit back on a throne and loose.
Even in car Honda India had given nightmares to owners....So long as Hero and Honda were to-gether and Hero Motors took care of brand positioning and service etc.,....things were acceptable...Now with Honda doing a solo run ,expect a " Higher Than Though " attitude from them...
Sri got his ZMA-R after 3 months of waiting.....for a model which is manufactured since 2003.

[aargee]

Now they have to re think on the N 250 pricing....

So...you mean...the wait for C250R is good? Anyway, the servicing cost doesn't come down, so I'm not more biased on N250R. To me, the maintenance has to be in my acceptable limits.

I'm getting a strong feeling that HMSI & Honda SIAL are creating artificial demands in this country.

[uRban-X]

guys my name is Ananthu and am from trivandrum, am currently in chennai attending classes for my Chartered accountancy course.. I needed to buy this monts xbhp mag. Esp cause it features the helmet awareness ride we conducted in tvm a few months back. Am staying at a hostel nr. Mylapore tank, can any of u guys please suggest a nearby place where i can get the mag. I don hav a ride so. Plz suggest bus nos. And othr details.
Cheers,
Thanks in advance !

[psr]

So...you mean...the wait for C250R is good? Anyway, the servicing cost doesn't come down, so I'm not more biased on N250R. To me, the maintenance has to be in my acceptable limits.

I'm getting a strong feeling that HMSI & Honda SIAL are creating artificial demands in this country.

Yes at 1.58 on road the CBR 250 is VFM...but be prepared for bad service experience, as Honda never corrects it's mistakes.I think the early CBR with shim problem is still sleeping at the Honda A.S.S....awaiting spares..

[shahdupeshkhan]

spot on

Yes at 1.58 on road the CBR 250 is VFM...but be prepared for bad service experience, as Honda never corrects it's mistakes.I think the early CBR with shim problem is still sleeping at the Honda A.S.S....awaiting spares..

i totally agree with psr..

[psr]

So...you mean...the wait for C250R is good? Anyway, the servicing cost doesn't come down, so I'm not more biased on N250R. To me, the maintenance has to be in my acceptable limits.

I'm getting a strong feeling that HMSI & Honda SIAL are creating artificial demands in this country.

Here is a link on the CBR 250 design concept and engine cross section...very informative...

Honda CBR 250 R : Engine Design [Archive] - Honda CBR250 Forum : Honda CBR 250 Forums

[aargee]

Ji, see this is also one of the point - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/news/154...tml#post644845

Tks for the link, I'm going through it now