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**Brat** · 08-16-2011, 05:55 AM

Originally posted by melroyal View Post

Frame sliders, also called frame protectors, fairing protectors, or crash bobbins, are an accessory used on street motorcycles for the purpose of maintaining the bike's side fairings and internal components in the event of a crash, or preventing damage from dumping (dropping) the bike. They are made of plastics such as Delrin, acetal, or nylon, or sometimes aluminum. The frame sliders are usually located and installed on the engine bolts on the left and right side fairings.
Along the same lines, sliders are sometimes added to motorcycle bar ends, and to front or rear axles, called fork sliders and swingarm spool sliders. These provide some potential damage reduction for the suspension components, wheels, and other parts by making contact with the ground before the rest of the bike.

Wont the R version of the GT require us to drill a hole on either sides of the fairing to have this installed?

**Brat** · 08-16-2011, 06:02 AM

Originally posted by vikyk View Post

Bro, let me give you a little idea about GT 650R.

My GT 650R fell on road, when a speedy car hit it from back side just after 5 days of my purchase ( my bike is 25 days old now). My bike was in standing position only, not even moving. What i lost:

- Left side handle bar

(the worst thing, it fell on ground and handle gone)
Cost: Rs. 4397.40

- Left side mirror
Cost: Rs. 3600

- Left side lever assembly clutch
Cost: Rs. 2365.15

- Scratches light ones (no repair)

- Service cost at home as it was impossible to ride bike without that handle bar :
Rs. 3500

- 10 days of wait and 40 calls to hyosung to get that repaired.

I hope you got the idea of maintenance. After bike got damaged, i had to take help of almost 8-10 people to be towed it to my home, using a loading tempo.

So an advice to all GT 650R owners , do anything, handle damn carefully this bike otherwise a single fall, will put you in worst situation like this. Getting towing service from the Hysoung in other cities, where they don't have service centers, is pretty tough and time taking, including service cost and towing cost.

Ugh... i hope this wont affect the overall handling of the bike.

**melroyal** · 08-16-2011, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by vikyk View Post

Great, thanks for the information. Can you tell me from where you will be buying these for your bike? I can also contact to same vendor or have to search for one.

Hi vikyk.It's available at Performance racing store,click here for website.

Originally posted by Brat View Post

Wont the R version of the GT require us to drill a hole on either sides of the fairing to have this installed?

Yes bro,it would require drilling a hole in the fairing.

**rohan_5013** · 08-16-2011, 02:55 PM

Hey guys,I was just wondering..I heard that 600cc were illegal in India..then how come these bikes have been launched and Yamaha,Honda arent releasing their 600cc bikes?I know these are v-twin engines and R6,etc. are in-line fours,but still..
Sorry for the dumb question

**Samarth 619** · 08-16-2011, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by rohan_5013 View Post

Hey guys,I was just wondering..I heard that 600cc were illegal in India..then how come these bikes have been launched and Yamaha,Honda arent releasing their 600cc bikes?I know these are v-twin engines and R6,etc. are in-line fours,but still..
Sorry for the dumb question

All jumbled up info, Rohan bro. Let me correct...

Firstly, only the GT is a V-Twin engine, Ninja is a parallel twin.

Secondly, 600cc's are not illegal by any law.
Bikes above 800cc can be imported and sold without homologation.
Bikes below 800cc have to be homologated and then launched, which makes it a costly affair, which explains why Yamaha and Honda didn't bring their 600's so far.

But you never know when the times will change...

Clear? Any more queries? You can PM me too...

**nagoo** · 08-16-2011, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by rohan_5013 View Post

Hey guys,I was just wondering..I heard that 600cc were illegal in India..then how come these bikes have been launched and Yamaha,Honda arent releasing their 600cc bikes?I know these are v-twin engines and R6,etc. are in-line fours,but still..
Sorry for the dumb question

its not dumb questions..infact its right question... but its lazy questions .. u need to do lot of reading in old threads on this forum ... search it u get ton of information ...

for summery ... any displacement of engine less than 800CC needs approval from Govt body responsible for automotive in india its called ARAI of something [correct me] and for that there is a process [homologonization something like that ] by which it is necessary to prove that each and every components of vehicle complies to Indian standards,.. then only they will approve for production ... and its time consuming and costly affair ... so bottom line is - Ninja and GT both went through these process .. and hence playing on road ..

**rohan_5013** · 08-16-2011, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post

All jumbled up info, Rohan bro. Let me correct...

Firstly, only the GT is a V-Twin engine, Ninja is a parallel twin.

Secondly, 600cc's are not illegal by any law.
Bikes above 800cc can be imported and sold without homologation.
Bikes below 800cc have to be homologated and then launched, which makes it a costly affair, which explains why Yamaha and Honda didn't bring their 600's so far.

But you never know when the times will change...

Clear? Any more queries? You can PM me too...

Oh..thank you for the helpful info and quick reply..I had read somewhere about 600s not allowed but 1000s allowed..yeah i guess it was all jumbled info

So then the Ninja and GT have been homologated?? Thank you for offering your help..I will PM you with any other queries..thanks man
Also thanks to nagoo

**Samarth 619** · 08-16-2011, 04:53 PM

Also, I would like to add that during homologation process, GT was changed in the following manner:

1. The engine was detuned by a new ECU to match Indian emission regulations, so now it makes some 72.4 PS power, compared to 80 PS abroad.
2. It's horn is an Indian one, because the Korean one was not approved by ARAI.

As far as I know, Ninja 650 got no such changes I'm aware of.

**melroyal** · 08-16-2011, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post

Also, I would like to add that during homologation process, GT was changed in the following manner:

1. The engine was detuned by a new ECU to match Indian emission regulations, so now it makes some 72.4 PS power, compared to 80 PS abroad.

I hate it when they detune the bikes here

**vikyk** · 08-17-2011, 01:25 AM

Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post

Also, I would like to add that during homologation process, GT was changed in the following manner:

1. The engine was detuned by a new ECU to match Indian emission regulations, so now it makes some 72.4 PS power, compared to 80 PS abroad.
2. It's horn is an Indian one, because the Korean one was not approved by ARAI.

As far as I know, Ninja 650 got no such changes I'm aware of.

Uhh loss of 7.6 PS. But i am ok with it. Jaipur roads are not even giving me chance to put 5th gear in daily commuting, so if its 72.4 PS or 172.4 PS , nothing going to help

And the horn, that actually sucks. Really too low, and gives a feeling of cat's meow from lion's body.

**Brat** · 08-17-2011, 02:00 AM

Originally posted by vikyk View Post

the horn, that actually sucks. Really too low, and gives a feeling of cat's meow from lion's body.

One of the Homologation effects, spoke about this to the dealer and he offered a free upgrade to Dual horns on first service

**hss** · 08-17-2011, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by gsferrari View Post

I don't have 10 bikes anymore. Just 7 including the Ninja...whenever that gets delivered

7 bikes (earlier 10) !!

Are you related to Ambanis/Tatas/Birlas in any way?

Please don't forget to gift me one of your bikes whenever you decide to throw one away

**nagoo** · 08-17-2011, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by hss View Post

7 bikes (earlier 10) !!

Are you related to Ambanis/Tatas/Birlas in any way?

Please don't forget to gift me one of your bikes whenever you decide to throw one away

OT: man u owed abt number of bikes ... i am seriously thinking about the space needed to park those

coming to GT or N .. for us 30+PS is more than enough at any given point of time ... if 30+PS bike does 150+kmph speed easily .. do u really need anything more than that .... everything else is like reserve power which u can say have it ..but never uses it .. it always will be in reserve

**mittal_v2002** · 08-17-2011, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by nagoo View Post

coming to GT or N .. for us 30+PS is more than enough at any given point of time ... if 30+PS bike does 150+kmph speed easily .. do u really need anything more than that .... everything else is like reserve power which u can say have it ..but never uses it .. it always will be in reserve

It is not that it reaches 150+ KMPH, but also HOW it reaches there.. 30PS vs 70PS ;-) .. I agree, for day to day riding, 30 PS is more than adequate and economical as well..

But the feeling of owning a 600+ CC bike is beyond compare... I am yet to experience that .. still waiting for the delivery.. booked mine last week... drooling over the pics that I clicked at the showroom till then, and doing research on the riding gear... the wait seems endless...

**vikyk** · 08-18-2011, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by Brat View Post

One of the Homologation effects, spoke about this to the dealer and he offered a free upgrade to Dual horns on first service

I am the one who like to blow horn a lot, whether its a car or bike. I believe we need to alert people, who really don't know which one is overtaking lane, how to take turns, where to use indicators or not to walk in the middle of road. But from the time i got GT, i try to avoid blowing horn at even worst conditions. It "beeep" or "meow", makes all the effect of big bike blow away within a moment and i just hate it. I rather accelerate bike more in such times, that produces enough sound to alert people

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